Relayer2112

Not sure if this has been discussed before or not. I apologize in advance if it has.

 

In the guitar solo for "Cinderella Man", Alex goes wild with his whammy bar and at two distinct times during the solo (at the beginning and end) it sounds like he does a dive and then pulls back on the the tremolo to increase the pitch beyond the original note. He's does almost the exact same thing twice in the solo and, at both times as the pitch is rising, I hear a pretty loud creaking sound.

 

My assumption is that he is not pulling up on the tremolo arm, but possibly using a finger to press down on a string above the nut to increase the pitch (a trick that I know Jimmy Page used from time to time). This "creaking" sound could then possibly be the string straining against the nut.

 

I would guess that he didn't have a floating tremolo back then (i'm not sure when they started to become popular) to pull this off another way.

 

Any opinions as to what this sound is?

It's the only hope of another Rush show, as we know.

 

Whether it's progressive overspending, more fancy cars, wanting to secure mo' money for the wife+kid, or trying to start the endowed Neil Peart Scholarship For Musicians Who Can't Philosophy Good, And Want To Learn How To Do Other Stuff Good, Too, something would get him behind the kit

 

Discuss.

 

I agree that a desire to get that one more large influx of cash would be the only thing that would get him to do it one more time. I believe that he's beyond the point of no return physically, but if he feels better after a long rest, one never knows.

 

I know that discussing this is beating a dead horse, but it's interesting to think about none the less.

 

I'm sure that he's a smart man and gets proper financial advice, but just that "dangling carrot" of one last big payday could be awfully tempting.

 

As far as his books go, if he enjoys writing them, then he'll continue. I'm not sure he's overly concerned if they sell or not.

Due to the guitar distortion factor, I'll say "Lilywhite Lilith" from The Lamb.

 

My runner-up would be "Land of Confusion".

Michael Caine loses just because he did "Jaws: The Revenge". I saw an interview with him years later where he said he didn't regret doing that film because it bought him a house. That's a total lack of artistic integrity.

I've been listening to GG's first album a lot lately. I can't help but think that, even though I enjoy "Acquiring the Taste", it was a significant drop off from their first quality wise.

I literally just listened to the GTR album for the first time in (let's see, it came out in '86, so I haven't listened to it in) 30+ years and I stand by my "it sucked" review.

 

The music could have been passable if they hadn't put that advert in melody maker for "Wanted: Completely soulless singer with a good set of pipes".

 

I'm not sure I can forgive Hackett for stealing his own instrumental...It bothered me doubly upon my re-listen today. I guess he figured that nobody would notice given his solo album sales. To be honest, I believe that Steve Howe's instrumental piece was regurgitated from somewhere else also.

 

I thought the vocals were fantastic on this album. It's too bad that Max Bacon left the music industry, because I fully believe he should be the one fronting Styx right now.

 

In my opinion, he had a great voice, but no feel for the music. In his case, the great voice didn't make him a great singer. That being said, he'd be perfect for Styx :)

I literally just listened to the GTR album for the first time in (let's see, it came out in '86, so I haven't listened to it in) 30+ years and I stand by my "it sucked" review.

 

The music could have been passable if they hadn't put that advert in melody maker for "Wanted: Completely soulless singer with a good set of pipes".

 

I'm not sure I can forgive Hackett for stealing his own instrumental...It bothered me doubly upon my re-listen today. I guess he figured that nobody would notice given his solo album sales. To be honest, I believe that Steve Howe's instrumental piece was regurgitated from somewhere else also.

I've become my father when it comes to nodding off. I used to laugh at him when he'd fall asleep after sitting down for five minutes. Now my son laughs at me. It's the circle of life.

Also, the music sucked.

 

NO U SUCK

 

 

 

Anyway you do have a point though. Apparently both Steves ended up hating each other after their only tour was over.

 

I never knew that there was any animosity between them. I do remember an interview where Steve Hackett said he was disappointed.with management for letting them get into serious financial trouble.

 

I always assumed that there would have been enough musical differences between them to the point of where they wouldn't get along. It could only have continued if that album performed fantastically on the charts and they were raking in enough dough to put aside their differences.

GTR had no prayer of continuing. The two Steves would never have been able to co-exist for the long haul (or even the slightly longer than short haul).

 

Also, the music sucked. Hearing Steve Hackett borrow one of his own instrumentals for the GTR album was all I needed to hear.

 

I'm sure they were hoping for an "Asia" type response to the music which, thankfully, didn't happen. GTR was purely a cash grab which backfired.

It's a very so-so album that was followed by an awesome tour.

Maybe not the most jarring, but "Going for the One" off of "Going for the One" by Yes is the one that stands out to me. That pedal steel guitar intro was so "UnYes_like" when compared to the material on "Relayer" and "TFTO" that I couldn't help but love it right off the bat.

I only got into Rush in the early 80's and knew going in that "Caress" was the "red-headed stepchild" of their collection. I enjoy it, but I'll admit that I had low expectations just because of what I'd heard about it. It's obvious why it wasn't a big seller.

Speaking of Rush album covers. I remember reading an interview where the band said that they were disappointed in the "Caress of Steel" album cover because the wording ended up looking more brass than steel. Given that it was Hugh Syme's first album cover for the band, I wonder what made the boys decide to stick with him for the long haul.

I've always loved Ian Anderson's lyric writing. Thick as a Brick and Baker St. Muse are two great examples.

 

I think in J.T.'s entire body of work, I'd only consider a handful to be weak lyrically. Ian was on top of his game 95% of the time.

I think La Villa was his best performance on record.

I think Ghost sound like "Dream Theater" and "Spinal Tap" got together and had a baby.

Hard to believe CTTC never played live, in some sense can understand why Alien Shore wasn't, not being an expert has a kind of studio feel about it that may have been too difficult to translate live, all kinds of funny little effects in it, i dunno. CTTC doesnt seem to have this problem, didnt go CP tour but i'd have been disappointed not to get it

 

Being a musician.....I can tell you the Alien Shore for Geddy is a very challenging tune. Playing that bass line while singing....really tough. I am sure they rehearsed it for that tour but something was not clicking. Same for Cut To The Chase. Sometimes they are simply studio cuts and they don't capture it live like they want to.

 

It took them 35 years to finally play Jacobs Ladder again. And it was glorious. But something had to not be clicking with all three of them to have it locked up for so long. It was requested all the time.

 

So glad they busted that out on R40. It was the highlight of my night. And one of the best of my Rush concert going experience's.

 

I think it was simply the time factor that kept Jacob's Ladder out of the set list for many years. I'm actually surprised it didn't make a comeback when the started playing "Natural Science" again regularly. They could easily have swapped them out for each other on different nights. It's also a possibility that one of them wasn't very fond of it.

 

It was certainly a gift to the fans to play that it on R40. It was probably the highlight of the night for me also.

I would much have rather they played "CTTC" instead of "Cold Fire" on the Counterparts tour.

Geddy was asked about CTTC in a pre-R40 interview , possibly in a AMA Reddit forum and he chuckled and remembered the song and perhaps they rehearsed it before that tour but it didn't make the final cut. Neil expressed interest in performing Hand Over Fist but that too didn't make the final cut either

 

I was always surprised that the most rockin' song on CP, Between Sun & Moon wasn't performed on that tour

It's funny how serious us fans take this stuff compared to the artist. I could see Geddy saying "Oh yeah, let's see...hmmm that was off of...Count...yeah, Counterparts." "We may have considered it for the set list at some point". "So...people really seem to like that song?"

 

How true that is. I'm sure many fans were flabbergasted that Geddy had to be reminded that "Jacob's Ladder" had indeed been played live before the R40 tour (not to mention forgetting what city he was in at one point). It was their job. So many performances, sound checks, recording sessions, interviews etc. over the years. As fans, we only got to see the end result of many, many hours of their labor.

 

I would think it's not a whole lot different from every "working man/woman" out there. Would they have rather been someplace else many times while they were performing as the collective entity called "Rush"? I have no doubt. Were there everyday distractions (family, friends, hobbies etc.) that put their thoughts far away from the concert stage while they were on tour? Certainly.

 

As fans, we know more about the fruits of their labor than they do. I'm not surprised at all by that.

I like "Black Cat" by Gentle Giant.

I hate Big Generator with a passion. To me, it was proof that that version of Yes had absolutely no staying power, they were a one trick pony.

1). Lick It Up---KISS

2). Black and Blue - Van Halen ("Slip n' slide. Push it in. Bitch sure got the rhythm." It's a single entendre.)

 

3). Still...You Turn Me On - ELP ("Every day a little sadder, a little madder, someone get me a ladder")

The potential is certainly there for a good movie. Will they be able to pull it off? Who knows? My best guess is that it will suck.

 

Bill and Ted 2 is still on the top of my list of worst films of all time that I've seen in a theater.

It's 2018!

 

"Clutching At Straws" is still in my TOP 5!

 

I listened to "Clutching" just the other day. It's grown on me over the years after having not made a great first impression. It sounds a bit dated, but I can appreciate the music more now and fret over the opportunities that were lost when they parted ways with Fish. They had a certain edginess that never returned once he was gone.

 

I like some of the Hogarth stuff, but I find their music from the last 10+ years as being boring.

My favorite is the "interjections" song, but they are all very catchy. I'm not sure I learned anything from them (I lie, I did learn the preamble from one of them), but they were enjoyable.

 

To hear some interesting interjections, try going to the Linc in Philly and yell "Hooray !!!, I'm for the other team !!! " like they do in the song.