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Unlike most Maiden fans, I really don't hate Maiden with Blaze, I think he was a decent singer and while X Factor and Virtual Eleven were considerably weaker than the albums that came before, (well maybe except for No Prayer For The Dying) there were still some decent tracks on those albums like Sign Of The Cross and Man On The Edge. In addition, the Blaze era also contained one of the most overlooked, underrated, and one my all time favorite Maiden tracks from the post-Adrian Smith era, Virus.
Now let's face it, Bruce is by far a superior singer and showman, but Blaze did a decent job, I only wish Steve Harris would have agreed to tune down a half step so that he wouldn't have the problems he had on tour with his voice blowing out every few gigs.
Paul DiAnno, I also think is a decent singer and I absolutely love his work on those first two Maiden records. Murders In The Rue Morgue and Iron Maiden being two of my absolute favorites. I love how gritty and badass his voice sounds, which definitely gave early Maiden an edge.
But If I had to choose between the two, I really don't know which one I overly like better, both Blaze and Paul had their strengths and their weaknesses and both eras had songs I really like and don't overly like.
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For the next gig we are a little tight to learn too many new tunes so I stuck with Distant Early Warning, Dreamline, Time Stands Still and Red Sector A. If any of you live anywhere near Orlando the show will be in June. Still finalizing the date but it will be a Friday or Saturday night! Will keep you posted.
Set 1
Space Odyssey 2001
Spirit of Radio
Subdivisions
Limelight
Entré Nous*
The Camera Eye*
Dreamline
New World Man
YYZ
Jacob’s Ladder
Set2
R30 Medley
Tom Sawyer
Time Stands Still
Closer to the Heart*
Broon’s Bain*
The Trees*
Xanadu**
Analog Kid
Freewill
Distant Early Warning
Red Barchetta
Overature/Temples
(Encore)
Red Sector A
La Villa Strangiato
Now that's a pretty decent setlist :) A little more balanced with a few more 80s tunes mixed in!
However, to me, Red Sector A is a bit more of a "middle of the set" song than an ending song. It is very cool that you included it, though! You'd probably be giving the Geddy impersonator a little bit of a rest from having the bass strapped on him for the whole show.
If I could be so bold as to give you some more ideas, I would rearrange this setlist in a few locations..
Spirit of Radio
Subdivisions
Limelight
Force Ten
The Camera Eye
Digital Man*
Dreamline
Territories**
YYZ
Jacob’s Ladder
Set2
Hemispheres Prelude
Tom Sawyer
Red Barchetta
Red Sector A
Time Stands Still
Closer to the Heart
The Trees
Xanadu
Analog Kid
Freewill
Mystic Rhythms
Red Barchetta
The Enemy Within
The Weapon
Witch Hunt
Freeze
(Encore)
Overture/Temples
La Villa Strangiato
In The Mood***
*=Sometimes replaced with Stick It Out or Show Don't Tell
**=Sometimes replaced with The Big Money or Manhattan Project
***=Sometimes replaced with Working Man or Fly By Night
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Ughhhh....whenever I see the word 'cruise' and immediately interpret it as 'stuck on a boat'.
Have you even been on one? They're pretty fun :)
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I know that everybody's like "Geddy's the best bass player in the world and only a somewhat good keyboardist, everybody would rather he play bass than just a few chords on the piano."
I don't know, but to me it's kind of frustrating to see a man so talented and so amazing at multi-tasking between instruments opting to Milli Vanilli certain keyboard parts. Its not like in the 80s, he was using pre-recorded bass guitar parts, certain portions of the synth songs required synth bass, and not bass guitar.
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One of the things I'm still wondering is that in the 80s, there was more than one popular genre of rock music. There was arena rock, the beginnings of power metal, thrash metal....if the goal at the end was relevance, there was clearly more than one path.....but in the end, they all chose to emulate the Flock Of Seagulls, Frankie Goes To Hollywood, Kraftwerk and Gary Numan like sound.
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Seriously, I think that every single song from the synth era sounded best being played live in that era. You know why? Because that was when Geddy was willing to experiment with keyboards and had a more positive attitude towards playing the keyboards live, and as a result, there was much less cheating around that time period. Instead of faking the keyboard parts and continuing to play bass where the bass doesn't belong, he actually played the parts as they should have been played. Case in point being Between The Wheels during the GUP tour vs any other modern tour where BTW was played.
To be honest, I'm surprised Geddy didn't attempt to play the bass during Red Sector A, which is the song that everybody Rush fan associates with Geddy playing just keys.
There also wasn't this pressure to make the music sound more modern. A lot of the Power Windows songs on the Clockwork Angels live album had instances where the guitar would drown out any other part, leading to the song not sounding right. An example would be Middletown Dreams.
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My question is...I wonder what was the attraction that bands like Yes, Rush, Genesis, and Jethro Tull had to that sort of Kraftwerk/Gary Numan-esque sound?
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I guess if you like the band, and you have a genuine love for the songs, then I'd say you are a fan regardless on whether you've listened to them recently.
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You can't really fault him for wanting to retire, as he is in his 60s. But however, despite it being an unconfirmed rumor, I simply don't find it unrealistic that Neil got angry with Alex and Geddy for proposing more dates.
If retirement was really on his mind, then I could picture an ultimatum being said.
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The original press release for R40 said it was likely their last tour, and then a year later they released a feature-length documentary about coming to terms with being done, so I'm not sure what the confusion is.
For the most part, it was the fact that they gave us mixed signals until Alex finally confirmed that they were done.
For me, I knew they were never going to tour again when I heard the rumors that Neil threw a hissy fit and threatened to quit halfway through R40 after Alex and Geddy proposed more dates.
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Rush doing anything else would require Neil to actually get off his ass and come out of retirement, which we all know he's not going to do.
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Ok this is actually a real situation and I am looking for serious help. Humor is accepted also The set list and order for our first show is shown below. Since then we have added Distant Early Warning and Dreamline. So my questions to you are;
1) Would you enjoy seeing a band play this set list?
2) Where would you add the new songs with this basic format?
3) What format and order do you think would be optimal? (i.e 1 long show, 2 sets, 3 sets, and what order would you put them in.)
4) What songs would you add and what songs if any would you remove?
Have at it. I look forward to your comments and suggestions. We are getting ready for our second gig which we are hoping with be at the Plaza Theater in Orlando sometime in June and I will be basing that show on what I learn here.
Set 1
Spirit of Radio
Subdivisions
Limelight
Entrée Nous*
Camera Eye*
New World Man
YYZ
Jacob’s Ladder
Set2
R30 Medley
Tom Sawyer
Closer to the Heart*
Broon’s Bain*
The Trees*
Xanadu**
Analog Kid
Freewill
Red Barchetta
Overature/Temples
(Encore)
La Villa Strangiato
New Songs added since:
Distant Early Warning
Dreamline
don't worry about the post-Signal stuff, it never goes over as well as the classics.
BLASTPHEMY
HERESY (lol geddit like the song)
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You asked the right person :)
This setlist is a perfect mixture of all eras of Rush, all equally represented.
1. The Spirit of Radio
2. Subdivisions
3. Limelight
4. Distant Early Warning
5. A. Lock and Key | B/C. One Little Victory
6. Where's My Thing?
7. A/B. Nobody's Hero | C. Cold Fire
8. The Pass
9. Middletown Dreams
10. Xanadu
11. YYZ
12. Clockwork Angels
13. Far Cry
Intermission
14. Dreamline
15. Drum Solo
16. A. Territories | B. The Big Money | C. Marathon
17. A/B. Red Sector A | C. Between The Wheels
18. Fly By Night
19. Finding My Way/In The Mood medley
20. A. Second Nature | B/C. Force Ten
21. A. Vital Signs | B. The Trees | C. Cinderella Man
22. 2112 (Overture/Temples/Grand Finale)
23. Mystic Rhythms
24. Closer To The Heart
Encore
25. The Enemy Within
26. The Weapon
27. Witch Hunt
28. Tom Sawyer
Damn, these guys are probably just trying to have some fun and make a few extra bucks. No need to get that serious with the set lol.
Lol I dont expect them to do all the songs I wrote down :) Some slots rotate, like during R40.
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Wow That is like 36 songs to have rehearsed and tight. Not sure what your A/B/C's are representing. Different shows?You asked the right person :)
This setlist is a perfect mixture of all eras of Rush, all equally represented.
1. The Spirit of Radio
2. Subdivisions
3. Limelight
4. Distant Early Warning
5. A. Lock and Key | B/C. One Little Victory
6. Where's My Thing?
7. A/B. Nobody's Hero | C. Cold Fire
8. The Pass
9. Middletown Dreams
10. Xanadu
11. YYZ
12. Clockwork Angels
13. Far Cry
Intermission
14. Dreamline
15. Drum Solo
16. A. Territories | B. The Big Money | C. Marathon
17. A/B. Red Sector A | C. Between The Wheels
18. Fly By Night
19. Finding My Way/In The Mood medley
20. A. Second Nature | B/C. Force Ten
21. A. Vital Signs | B. The Trees | C. Cinderella Man
22. 2112 (Overture/Temples/Grand Finale)
23. Mystic Rhythms
24. Closer To The Heart
Encore
25. The Enemy Within
26. The Weapon
27. Witch Hunt
28. Tom Sawyer
Yes :) Kind of in the vein of the R40 tour.
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You asked the right person :)
This setlist is a perfect mixture of all eras of Rush, all equally represented.
1. The Spirit of Radio
2. Subdivisions
3. Limelight
4. Distant Early Warning
5. A. Lock and Key | B/C. One Little Victory
6. Where's My Thing?
7. A/B. Nobody's Hero | C. Cold Fire
8. The Pass
9. Middletown Dreams
10. Xanadu
11. YYZ
12. Clockwork Angels
13. Far Cry
Intermission
14. Dreamline
15. Drum Solo
16. A. Territories | B. The Big Money | C. Marathon
17. A/B. Red Sector A | C. Between The Wheels
18. Fly By Night
19. Finding My Way/In The Mood medley
20. A. Second Nature | B/C. Force Ten
21. A. Vital Signs | B. The Trees | C. Cinderella Man
22. 2112 (Overture/Temples/Grand Finale)
23. Mystic Rhythms
24. Closer To The Heart
Encore
25. The Enemy Within
26. The Weapon
27. Witch Hunt
28. Tom Sawyer
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I didn't respond to Segues post because I had nothing to add. He told his own perspective and what he said was very well articulated and accurate.
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Hang me, shoot me, I don't give a f**k.
Amon Amarth would sound a billion times better with clean vocals in the vein of Jeff Scott Soto or Bruce Dickinson. The death growls doesn't really fit it.
And I'm not dissing Johann, he's an absolute sweetheart from what I've seen and heard. But I never liked that Cookie Monster stuff.
Then stop listening to Amon Amarth and go listen to some pussy ass weak radio metal like you always boast about for fcuk sake
Coming from the guy who loves Styx
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Fans each like what they like. Whining that plenty don't agree with your tastes is less to my taste than any era you favour more than me.
I think that one of the fundamental things about liking something is the ability to give constructive criticism about things you don't particularly enjoy about said thing.
For example, when the synth era was over, Geddy completely lost his experimental side.
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I don't understand your statement at all. Won't touch anything before Signal? and stop at moving Pictures? Moving Pictures was before Signals so you already cancelled that out with your first statement. So all tribute bands play Signals and only Signals. LOL I am in a Rush Tribute band and we play MOSTLY songs before Signals. We are looking to add a few of the post Signals songs but the audiences we play to seem to like 2112 through Signals. We can play Dreamline, Distant Early Warning and Red Sector A but that is about as far as I can go. I love our setlist!Every single Rush documentary, or brief written history of the band glosses over the best period of the band like "meh, it happened. Subdivisions was the big radio hit in the early to mid 80s after Tom Sawyer. Geddy's hair looked like a Davy Crockett hat, Whatever. Now let's talk about how great Counterparts is and how it's superior to every record that came out from 82 to 92."
Hell, even most Rush tribute bands do a very 90s and 70s heavy show and only do like 2-3 synth era songs at the max.
You know what? f**k that. It's time the synth era got the love it deserves from Rush fans. Geddy's bass playing and singing were at it's peak around that period, Geddy was multitasking between two different instruments effortlessly, Alex's chord structure became even more unorthodox and interesting. The music was very similar to the new wave groups of that era, but elevated to a much higher level. It was intricate, palatable, the songs weren't too long or drawn out, it was the perfect era for Rush.
I would rather hear all of Grace Under Pressure or Power Windows in it's entirety than Hemispheres.
Nearly all tribute bands won't touch anything before Signals and many of those stop at Moving Pictures. so as a rule I won't bother with them because that's not exactly my idea of a good time..
Set 1
Spirit of Radio
Subdivisions
Limelight
Entrée Nous*
Camera Eye*
New World Man
XYZ
Jacob’s Ladder
Set2
R30
Tom Sawyer
Closer to the Heart*
Broon’s Bain*
The Trees*
Xanadu**
Analog Kid
Freewill
Red Barchetta
Overature/Temples
(Encore)
La Villa Strangiato*
Yeah well guess what....I challenge you.
Emotion Detector, Mystic Rhythms, Digital Man, All parts of Fear, Open Secrets, Mission.
Then you'll live up to your name :)
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The narrative was very much "they lost me with the keyboards...", with most pro musician fans echoing that sentiment. Personally, I liked the synth era, although some songs/albums have aged better for me than others.Love synth era Rush. While earlier Rush sound is starting to sound more interesting to me than it once was, I do think it's a shame that the band doesn't really talk about it. I think there's a lot of stuff that has gotten any mention. I find enjoyment in the fact that they made a lot of money in the 80s.
The documentary was funny. They glossed over almost all of the juicy trivia mentioned about almost disbanding, family drama, etc and went straight to "We started using guitars again on Presto. Now Roll The Bones was..."
One reason it got glossed over in the doc was that Sam Dunn was not a fan of that period so it got the short straw.
Well those fans can f**k right off.
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Hang me, shoot me, I don't give a f**k.
Amon Amarth would sound a billion times better with clean vocals in the vein of Jeff Scott Soto or Bruce Dickinson. The death growls doesn't really fit it.
And I'm not dissing Johann, he's an absolute sweetheart from what I've seen and heard. But I never liked that Cookie Monster stuff.
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Every single Rush documentary, or brief written history of the band glosses over the best period of the band like "meh, it happened. Subdivisions was the big radio hit in the early to mid 80s after Tom Sawyer. Geddy's hair looked like a Davy Crockett hat, Whatever. Now let's talk about how great Counterparts is and how it's superior to every record that came out from 82 to 92."
Hell, even most Rush tribute bands do a very 90s and 70s heavy show and only do like 2-3 synth era songs at the max.
You know what? f**k that. It's time the synth era got the love it deserves from Rush fans. Geddy's bass playing and singing were at it's peak around that period, Geddy was multitasking between two different instruments effortlessly, Alex's chord structure became even more unorthodox and interesting. The music was very similar to the new wave groups of that era, but elevated to a much higher level. It was intricate, palatable, the songs weren't too long or drawn out, it was the perfect era for Rush.
I would rather hear all of Grace Under Pressure or Power Windows in it's entirety than Hemispheres.
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2003 is calling you.
Youre tearrreing me apaaahhht fraroc!!
HRRAAAAAAAGGHHHHHHHHH WHY LISA WHY WHY?!!!?!
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Oh my f***ing GOD. Where do I even begin with this movie? Lets just say that this is cinema's equivalent to My Immortal. It is possibly the greatest bad movie of all time. Trust me, if you watch this picture, you will be in absolute HYSTERICS laughing. I really don't want to add any more details because I feel I would be spoiling it for everybody, Trust me, it's something that has to be seen to be believed.
To this day, I still fully believe that Tommy Wiseau is actually an alien that landed on earth a long time ago who's trying to adapt to human ways but has trouble understanding it :)
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