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Do you consider John Rutsey a member of Rush?

 

Or, along those lines, do you consider Jonathan Silver a member of Genesis? Or Peter Banks a member of Yes?

Hilda 2

By the way I came up with a sort of rubric for what averages tend to "point to"... this shouldn't be the overall rating for an album but I think it will be interesting to see how they coincide (or fail to)

 

Really, this can serve as an indication of the "other aspects" of the album, beyond song quality... for example

 

Using the adjusted average, this is approximately what I came up with:

 

14.5+ = 10

14-14.5 = F

13-14 = E

12.5-13 = D

12-12.5 = C

11.5-12 = B

11-11.5 = A

10.5-11 = 9

10-10.5 = 8

9-10 = 7

8-9 = 6

7-8 = 5

6-7 = 4

4.5-6 = 3

3-4.5 = 2

<3 = 1

What the heck, I've made the compulsory 3 listens...

 

*Gentle Giant - Octopus (1972)*

The Advent Of Panurge: 14/15

Raconteur Troubadour: 13/15

Cry For Everyone: 13/15

Knots: 11/15 //Honestly, it REALLY shouldn't work as well as it does... but I enjoy it enough that an 11 seems justified

<The Boys In The Band>: 11/15

A Dog's Life: 12/15

Think Of Me With Kindness: 12/15

*River*: 14/15

 

Adjusted average: 12.5 (D) (The average of the mean and the median)

Overall rating: D (Great/Very Good)

 

 

"Grinding to a Halt"

 

if thats the title of the album, i hope it doesn't imply its the final release.

It mans that they're recording it in Goatnut, TN, with Nick Raskuliniez and the Blade Grinder crew co-engineering.

To me, Snakes has melodies, but few if them are really "ear-catching". I mean, I can remember how most of the songs go, but none of them really stand to me melodically... somewhat ironically an instrumental, TMMB, is the most memorable song on there. Couple this with the fact that some of the songs are REALLY bad (Bravest Face, Good News First, etc.) and only a few are much more than "very good" (Armor and Sword, Main Monkey Business, Way The Wind Blows), and you have quite a tedious listening experience.

why does quoting not work since IE 11?

Why are you using IE 11? Or IE at all for that matter...

Frelling forum

Neil says that the record is a album of covers, and "at least 7.3 times better than Clockwork Angels".

so maybe a 2015 release. 2016 definately.

Poe's Law?

And just for fun:

<<<King Crimson - THRaKaTTaK (1996)>>>

*Thrak*: 10/15

<Fearless and Highly THRAKked>: 0/15

<Mother Hold The Candle Steady While I Shave The Chicken's Lip>: 0/15

<THRaKaTTaK Part I>: 0/15

<The Slaughter Of The Innocents>: 0/15

<This Night Wounds Time>: 0/15

<THRaKaTTaK Part II>: 0/15

Thrak (Reprise): 10/15

 

Overall rating: 1 (Beyond Horrible)

A collection of suckish improvs from different live versions of the THRAK midsection... so you get to hear the first two minutes of THRAK (performed decently, but not really better than the original) followed by half an hour of AWFUL, AWFUL improvisation... these were six musicians, four of whom had little experience in improv and two of whom who had barely played with the others before, trying (are they even?) to get on the same page with one another but coming up EXTREMELY short. Avoid this at all costs; there's nothing essential about it and a good 90% of it is simply ear-destructive. Easily the worst album I have ever owned.

It's a decent collection of songs, but in album form it just drags.... and drags............ and draaaaaaaaaags...................................

 

Main Monkey Business is great though.

King Crimson - THRAK (1995)

Vrooom: 11/15

Coda: Marine 475: ""/15

*Dinosaur*: 13/15

Walking On Air: 12/15

B'Boom: 10/15

THRAK: 11/15

Inner Garden I: 10/15

People: 10/15

<Radio I>: []/15

One Time: 11/15

<Radio II>: []/15

Inner Garden II: 10/15

Sex Sleep Eat Drink Dream: 12/15

VROOOM VROOOM: 11/15

Coda: VROOOM VROOOM: ""/15

 

Overall rating: 9 (Good)

Overall a very consistent effort, with the only weak links being the two Radio tracks (honestly if not for them I have no idea what I would put as worst song)... however, only 3 songs on here seem to approach "great" for me, with the ultimate highlight being the "poppy" (but all the better for it) "Dinosaur", while there are way too many tracks which are good but unremarkable (one of them, B'Boom, is actually pretty neat but is ruined (well, sort of) by a drum solo of all things). Stylistically, this album aims for a cross between the 70's and 80's Crimson, meaning that it can be derivative at times but still presents an interesting mix of elements... still, the relative absence of great tracks (as well as the 2 Radio tracks) ensures that this will get at most a 9 (and a 9 it does get, despite originally thinking it was an 8. See how reviewing something can change your perspective on it?)

2015 will be the year TOBT makes a comeback

The only way that will happen is if ghost works returns

From your list, One More Red Nightmare, even though it's only my third favorite on the album.

This topic should have been in MMM.

maybe i want to get in to rush records.

 

No, you are just an entitled dickweed.

You are a PUTZ!!!!!!

Maybe, but at least he's right.

Whichever was founded last, since it will probably have a higher growth rate based off of t^-1

Starless

 

Oh... you mean in the title?

 

Red Barchetta (though I prefer Starless)

My three favorite albums of the 80's would probably be Moving Pictures, King Crimson's Absent Lovers (recorded live in 1984, released as an archive release 1997, therefore it's an 80's live album), and GUP. Then again, I wasn't alive in the 80's (or the 90's!), so I can't really speak from the perspective of someone who has...

SavageGrace before November ~15: 11/15

SavageGrace after November ~15: 6/15

This thread: 9/15

The Crimson version is more palatable for me but they are both indicative of the bottom of the barrell regarding each band's output.

Hmmm... I can see what you mean but I like the track... in fact, I like Beat as a whole (barring the last two tracks). I mean, it's no Discipline, and it sure as he'll isn't Red/LTIA, but I find it at least mildly enjoyable nonetheless.

 

Beat has some great tunes on it. I enjoy most of it and feel the same way as you. This version of Crim was better live for me.

MUCH better live - Absent Lovers is one of my favorite KC releases (though, again, not quite on the LTIA/Red level).

7/15