TFEman

Finding My Way

Working Man

Anthem

By-Tor and the Snow Dog

Fly By Night

Bastille Day

2112 (Temples of Syrinx)

Xanadu*

La Villa Strangiato

Freewill

The Spirit of Radio

Tom Sawyer

Analog Kid

Red Sector A

Marathon

Big Money

Force Ten

Mission

Presto*

Roll the Bones

Animate

Driven

One Little Victory

Earthshine

Far Cry

Workin' Them Angels

YEah, I actually was able to recreate it just without most of the extra noises and sound effects they added over the songs.

I'm sure that there's definitely a large amount of guitar players and drummers but I could do both if you need me to.

If they do another Clockwork Angels release, I pray that it will be better video and audio than the official release. Those were not good.

Honestly, I'd love to get another TFE, Vapor Trails, or CA concert released on iTunes or something. The CA mix was awful, and the TFE & Vapor Trails tours left out some of my favorites: Limbo, Virtuality, Time and Motion, Ceiling Unlimited.

So it's going to be the show at auburn hills march 8th already available in You Tub, just frustrating that it's not the complete show.

 

That's where the clips from the doc appear to be from. The quality doesn't look that much better than the low-gen stuff that's already out there, but at least there's an official release. It would have made sense to release the whole show (which I'm sure will happen in the future based on the past several years. Laura Secord.... Capitol Theatre....)

 

I can't remember if I have the Palace DVD or not, but I have the whole show on video. Visually, the 3/8/90 Detroit show is better than Mountainview.

 

You think so? I agree that in terms of wide shots and overall coverage and stuff it's better captured as a show but I've got both the Mountain View and Auburn Hills shows from 1990 and I think Mountain view is much cleaner audio and video-wise. That's why I was shocked to hear people say the bonus content comes from the Auburn Hills proshot. Bordercollie wrote elsewhere - "The Presto footage is indeed from the Auburn Hills March 8 show. Sounded fantastic and looked much better than what has been floating around the internet/trading circles. The played a montage of Red Barchetta through the years and there were brief audio/video clips from various releases, including the "new" Presto footage." But I haven't seen the doc yet so I'll be curious to see for myself.

 

Secondly, TFEman wrote above "I can't stress enough that Rush has access to TONS of pro-shot footage that was always ready just in case they wanted to make a lconcert film. I would expect neither of those two boots to be the source of this new bonus content." but I couldn't disagree more. While their live audio recordings are almost surely extensive I'm pretty sure their video library is virtually exhausted other than the remaining half of the Toronto TFE show. The only hope for any other proshot shows would be if somehow another venue filmed show leaked. I'm still holding out hope that the RTB tour was also fully filmed at Auburn Hills. There are so many proshot clips from throughout the show and the previous and following tours were both filmed there.

 

Other than that? We'd have to get really lucky that maybe one of the other venues like the Houston Summit that filmed often may have something in their vault. But that's about it. The ONLY other hope I see is more footage from shows we've already seen. For example, the Atlanta show in 2008 that the four bonus songs were pulled from. They obviously filmed more because there are several other different songs on Neil's own dvd that were filmed there. And then of course there's the slim hope that the remaining footage from the three 80s shows could be found and restored. I don't think we'll ever see any more of those though. But people who are just assuming that Rush has all these proshot shows just sitting in a vault are not realistic at all about that. I've heard people say things like "They should release a dvd from the Signals tour" or some other random thing as though they can just go back in time and film stuff. Filming a show is a major undertaking and is also almost impossible to do without people knowing. The idea that they set up (especially 20 or more years ago when there weren't even rearscreen cameras) and filmed shows that we don't know about is just fantasy.

 

So those are my thoughts...

I said that because I was told that by someone that the band supposedly sits on a lot of footage from a couple of tours. I never said I believe it, or that I know 100% for a fact. It was also kind-of an assumption, considering how on almost all of their live albums before R30, they have bonus tracks from different dates during the tour, or in the case of Different Stages, different dates from an entirely different tour.

 

Geddy is on the record as saying that nearly every show from the Test For Echo Tour was recorded (audio) because they could (whether they still have all of that is another story entirely.)

 

I thought this was also the case with the HYF tour, and every night has been recorded starting with January 22, 1994.

How did you find that out? I knew there had to be some explaination for the Counterparts SBDs on Different Stages but I had no idea they recorded eery single show.

I wish they would release the rest of the HYF footage. They recorded over the three nights. They absolutely have to have all of the songs , or other funny bloopers and stuff that was cut out. I loved the ASOH CD. I play it over and over. I wore out the cassette AND the CD. I wish they would've included more on the DVD, but this is a totally different topic than the Presto footage.

Look the best way to honestly cut corners on the Alex Lifeson Les Paul is to go with the standard Les Paul Axcess, which is $2700 cheaper. Then you buy a ghost Peizo Floyd Rose from graph tech for around $300-400. You just spent $3000 on a les paul which can be hard to save that much (which is why we're looking at chinese knockoffs) but you just got basically the Alex Lifeson custom Les Paul for over $2000 cheaper. Also add the fact that you would have a real USA Les Paul instead of a chibson. I understand, though, that some people don't have the luxury and/or time to do this.

A lot of people say that the company that makes that guitar is not good quality. I'd rather save $200 more and get an Epiphone Les Paul Plustop Pro FX used. Those are actually good and still a reasonable price.

 

I actually owned one of the plustops. It was decent but I could never get it intonated correctly due to the poor fret work.

I am thinking about buying one. I live near a Sam Ash and I would take that and my PRS over for an intonation setup. It costs around $70 each but I would do it if it meant for better playing.

A lot of people say that the company that makes that guitar is not good quality. I'd rather save $200 more and get an Epiphone Les Paul Plustop Pro FX used. Those are actually good and still a reasonable price.

I was thrilled with the quality of the bonus stuff. It definitely looked waaaaay better than the bootleg, and sounded good too

I pre-ordered it so it's still shipping right now. From what I hear, it is so much better than the bootleg version.

Got a new addition to the stable a couple of months ago. Finally getting around to posting pictures.

 

About a year ago I was talking about having a Carvin PRS-type built, and I pulled the trigger earlier this spring.

 

As for the name on the headstock, the guitar building section of Carvin split off into a separate company this year, and now they're known under the name of Kiesel.

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/1001001/Guitars/carvin2a_zps8micwpki.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/1001001/Guitars/carvin4a_zps1rerrhvo.jpg

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/1001001/Guitars/carvin3_zpsyai04pbr.jpg

So how does it sound and play in comparison to more popular brands

So it's going to be the show at auburn hills march 8th already available in You Tub, just frustrating that it's not the complete show.

 

That's where the clips from the doc appear to be from. The quality doesn't look that much better than the low-gen stuff that's already out there, but at least there's an official release. It would have made sense to release the whole show (which I'm sure will happen in the future based on the past several years. Laura Secord.... Capitol Theatre....)

 

I can't remember if I have the Palace DVD or not, but I have the whole show on video. Visually, the 3/8/90 Detroit show is better than Mountainview.

 

You think so? I agree that in terms of wide shots and overall coverage and stuff it's better captured as a show but I've got both the Mountain View and Auburn Hills shows from 1990 and I think Mountain view is much cleaner audio and video-wise. That's why I was shocked to hear people say the bonus content comes from the Auburn Hills proshot. Bordercollie wrote elsewhere - "The Presto footage is indeed from the Auburn Hills March 8 show. Sounded fantastic and looked much better than what has been floating around the internet/trading circles. The played a montage of Red Barchetta through the years and there were brief audio/video clips from various releases, including the "new" Presto footage." But I haven't seen the doc yet so I'll be curious to see for myself.

 

Secondly, TFEman wrote above "I can't stress enough that Rush has access to TONS of pro-shot footage that was always ready just in case they wanted to make a lconcert film. I would expect neither of those two boots to be the source of this new bonus content." but I couldn't disagree more. While their live audio recordings are almost surely extensive I'm pretty sure their video library is virtually exhausted other than the remaining half of the Toronto TFE show. The only hope for any other proshot shows would be if somehow another venue filmed show leaked. I'm still holding out hope that the RTB tour was also fully filmed at Auburn Hills. There are so many proshot clips from throughout the show and the previous and following tours were both filmed there.

 

Other than that? We'd have to get really lucky that maybe one of the other venues like the Houston Summit that filmed often may have something in their vault. But that's about it. The ONLY other hope I see is more footage from shows we've already seen. For example, the Atlanta show in 2008 that the four bonus songs were pulled from. They obviously filmed more because there are several other different songs on Neil's own dvd that were filmed there. And then of course there's the slim hope that the remaining footage from the three 80s shows could be found and restored. I don't think we'll ever see any more of those though. But people who are just assuming that Rush has all these proshot shows just sitting in a vault are not realistic at all about that. I've heard people say things like "They should release a dvd from the Signals tour" or some other random thing as though they can just go back in time and film stuff. Filming a show is a major undertaking and is also almost impossible to do without people knowing. The idea that they set up (especially 20 or more years ago when there weren't even rearscreen cameras) and filmed shows that we don't know about is just fantasy.

 

So those are my thoughts...

I said that because I was told that by someone that the band supposedly sits on a lot of footage from a couple of tours. I never said I believe it, or that I know 100% for a fact. It was also kind-of an assumption, considering how on almost all of their live albums before R30, they have bonus tracks from different dates during the tour, or in the case of Different Stages, different dates from an entirely different tour.

Honestly, the best we have to hope for is another record, but I think that's doubtful. I wish I could be optimistic and hopeful and say "Oh yeah they could go out one more time." That one last time already happened.

Guitar: EVH, Alex, Eric Johnson, David Gilmour

Drums: Neil

Drums was Red Sector A and guitar I think was an extremely simplified version of YYZ.

It can't be worse that what we have seen on the Presto tour :

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBd8QxK2oE8

That was not even close to the worst. Available Light is what the some people are saying this extra stuff is supposed to be. There's no way rush would sell anything of that quality. It is not good, but contains one of their best sets of the tour. This vid is Mountain Views (or A View From The Mountain, I forget which one is which) and is waaaay better quality.

 

I can't stress enough that Rush has access to TONS of pro-shot footage that was always ready just in case they wanted to make a lconcert film. I would expect neither of those two boots to be the source of this new bonus content.

So it looks like the guys who supposedly had a incredibly large amount of pro shot footage from tours that we didn't get any DVD or album up until now are finally starting to release it. I'm sure everyone knows by now, but with the new R40 doc "Time Stand Still" comes extra pro shot footage from the PResto tour, entitled "Live From The Rabbit Hole." Any thoughts?

Watch Neil at 8:40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0egeRVFgI8

 

That's funny! Hopefully there's a better video of it out there.

If you click the video and watch it on youtube its great quality. I don't know why it isn't as good on this site

Possibly Losing It (half step down)

Between The Wheels (drop D)

The Big Money (step up)

Mystic Rhythms (half step down)

There are small riffs in Superconductor that may have been done with a guitar tuned a step down

Stick It Out (drop D)

Test For Echo (step down)

Driven (possibly step down, I doubt it though)

The Color of Right (step down)

Spindrift (possibly a step down)

The Main Monkey Business (I have no idea if this is how it was written but it can be played in standard tuning just fine)

Bravest Face (drop D or step down)

The Way The Wind Blows (Pretty sure it is, I don't know for sure)

Hope (weird drop tuning)

Carnies (open E)

Headlong Flight (open E)

Halo Effect (Same weird tuning as Hope, I believe)

Set 1:

The Anarchist

Carnies or BU2B

Far Cry

The Seeker

One Little Victory or Secret Touch

How It Is or Ceiling Unlimited

Driven

Cut To The Chase

Where's My Thing

Ghost of A Chance

Presto

Force Ten

Lock And Key

The Big Money

Afterimage

The Analog Kid or Chemistry

Subdivisions

 

Set 2:

Tom Sawyer

Red Barchetta or The Camera Eye

YYZ

The Spirit of Radio

Entre Nous or Natural Science

Jacob's Ladder

The Trees

Hemispheres Prelude, Apollo, & Armageddon

Cygnus X-1 part 1

Drum solo

Cygnus X-1 part 3

Closer to The Heart

Xanadu

2112

 

encore:

By-tor & The Snowdog

Anthem

What You're Doing

Working Man (Reggae intro w/ Garden Road)

 

I know this would be a bit long but I can dream, can't I? I tried to get one from every album and to build off of their actual set. I also tried to squeeze in my favorites, although there's still a lot I left out.

I think it would've been nice to have one song from each album as a base for the whole set and then expand upon that. I loved the entire concert, but there's a lot of songs from between Signals and Vapor Trails they could have played that they didn't.

Thanks everybody! It's been a great three years. It's still a lot of fun to be a part of this forum and to see quite a few people wish me a happy anniversary is always really nice to see.

I don't like the Jackson I own too much. The floyd rose never stays in tune (I'm not going to replace it with anything else, though) and the neck is shallow, wide, and just doesn't feel right.