winter17 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 It's such an odd song, why even include it on the album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket ignites Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) It's a Rush (song?), it's supposed to be "odd". I think it fits the thread bare sketchy outlined story of CA well. I read somewhere Neil insisted on the piece as a transition point on the album. Edited May 19, 2016 by A rocket that ignites itself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 It's such an odd song, why even include it on the album? :o It's the best song on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winter17 Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 It's such an odd song, why even include it on the album? :o It's the best song on it. You may be talking about BU2B. I'm referring to BU2B2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winter17 Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 It's a Rush (song?), it's supposed to be "odd". I think it fits the thread bare sketchy outlined story of CA well. I read somewhere Neil insisted on the piece as a transition point on the album. Fair enough, Rush songs are pretty odd I guess. I just can't seem to figure out the purpose of it. It doesn't reveal too much about the story that isn't revealed in other songs, and there's hardly any musicianship to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) It's such an odd song, why even include it on the album? :o It's the best song on it. You may be talking about BU2B. I'm referring to BU2B2 No may be about it. I'm not. :) I happen to be familiar with the album you know. ;) BU2B2 is the best song on the album. Yes, yes, yes. I know. It's not really a song per se. I still think it is the best on the album. :) Edited May 19, 2016 by Lorraine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket ignites Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) BU2B2: Lyrics THOSE FATEFUL WORDS. “What do you lack?” spark an inner monologue about all that I have lost. No more bound1ess optimism, no more faith in greater powers, too much pain, too much grief, and too much disillusion. Despite all that, I realize the great irony that although I now believe only in the exchange of love, even that little faith follows the childhood reflex that “I was brought up to believe.” I was brought up to believeBelief has failed me nowThe bright glow of optimismAbandoned me somehow Belief has failed me nowLife goes from bad to worseNo philosophy consoles meIn a clockwork universe Life goes from bad to worseI still choose to liveFind a measure of love and laughterAnd another measure to give I still choose to liveAnd give, even while I grieveThough the balance tilts against meI was brought up to believe Edited May 19, 2016 by A rocket that ignites itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I love the lyrics. I find it hard to believe that Neil can write them detached from himself. I know he once said in an interview (I think it was in the early to mid-eighties) that his lyrics weren't autobiographical but I don't know how a person can consistently write lyrics without them being so at some point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordercollie Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) Neil just wanted more pantoum playtime. Edited May 19, 2016 by bordercollie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 It's such an odd song, why even include it on the album?This must be Rushgoober's new profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 It's such an odd song, why even include it on the album?This must be Rushgoober's new profileHehe. Sig isn't bombastic enough. Younger clone perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil1972 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) It's such an odd song, why even include it on the album? There are 12 numbers on a clock and they only had 11 tracks so they added BU2B2. Then they realized it made a nice bookend with BU2B and went back to that song and added the little quiet interlude at the beginning of the song that wasn't on the single version. It was all very Zen. Edited May 20, 2016 by Wil1972 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkPrattLerxst Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I think of it as a prelude to Wish them Well. I don't really know if it's a song or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geddyleegenes Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I've just never understood it's position on the album, coming in after "Headlong Flight". "Headlong" is such an incredibly powerful, wonderfully uplifting song that just outright rocks. For me, it's one of my Top 10 Rush songs of all. Then they go and follow it with this slow, dread-inducing, black cloud of doom that (in my op) drags the album straight down to a dead stop. Right now, I don't know where a better spot on the album would be for it. Anywhere. Anywhere but here. This is my second least favorite Rush song, just above "Tai Shan". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winter17 Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 It's such an odd song, why even include it on the album? There are 12 numbers on a clock and they only had 11 tracks so they added BU2B2. Then they realized it made a nice bookend with BU2B and went back to that song and added the little quiet interlude at the beginning of the song that wasn't on the single version. It was all very Zen. That makes a lot of sense. Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winter17 Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 It's such an odd song, why even include it on the album?This must be Rushgoober's new profileHehe. Sig isn't bombastic enough. Younger clone perhaps. Who is Rushgoober? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil1972 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 It's such an odd song, why even include it on the album? There are 12 numbers on a clock and they only had 11 tracks so they added BU2B2. Then they realized it made a nice bookend with BU2B and went back to that song and added the little quiet interlude at the beginning of the song that wasn't on the single version. It was all very Zen. That makes a lot of sense. Thanks Of course I have no idea if that is all true. But it was my thought back when the album came out. Makes sense to me too! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Can't even remember how it goes to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket ignites Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 It's such an odd song, why even include it on the album? There are 12 numbers on a clock and they only had 11 tracks so they added BU2B2. Then they realized it made a nice bookend with BU2B and went back to that song and added the little quiet interlude at the beginning of the song that wasn't on the single version. It was all very Zen. That makes a lot of sense. Thanks Of course I have no idea if that is all true. But it was my thought back when the album came out. Makes sense to me too! :DWith the clock numbers each having a symbol, definitely can see the connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vital signz Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 It would have been much better if it had been a kickass instrumental. Ged's voice is not at it's best, the recording is strangely mixed and it really kinda doesn't fit very well. I also believe the original Bu2B was superior to the rereleased version. The original sans acoustic intro kicked way more ass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil1972 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 It would have been much better if it had been a kickass instrumental. Ged's voice is not at it's best, the recording is strangely mixed and it really kinda doesn't fit very well. I also believe the original Bu2B was superior to the rereleased version. The original sans acoustic intro kicked way more ass. I agree and it's the version I listen to most often when hitting shuffle on my Rush playlist. If I'm in a CA mood then of course the album version gets played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeson90 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) haphazard and clunky attempt to unify the album storyline in my view. the flow of 2112 was beautifully and seamlessly pieced together but CA's a mainly disjointed collection of tracks, some great and some substandard, but the glue's missing. BU2B2 was probably thrown in as an attempt to correct this but fails miserably. as a track in itself it isn't too bad, just kinda pointless to me, doesnt do enough. i removed a few tracks from my album leaving Side 1: Caravan, BU2B, Clockwork Angels, Side 2: The Anarchist, Headlong Flight and The Garden... making it more a true Rush album for me, quite similar in structure to Permanent Waves actually. a lot of the other stuff was unnecessary and just below par. Edited May 21, 2016 by lifeson90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytserush Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I think it's a great counterpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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