Blue Barchetta Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Okay. I read that Claudio Sanchez (axe man and singer for C&C) has stated that they hadn't even heard of Rush until everyone started comparing the two bands. This Blue Barchetta finds that a bit hard to swallow (that's what she said) and not just because of Mr. Sanchez's voice having a definite early-Geddy tone. Listen to ...say..."The Crowing" at all the progressive elements ripped straight from the Rush playbook. I don't know how many of my fellow Rushians also listen to C&C, but if so, don't you find that a little tough to believe? I like C&C a lot. Just kinda wish they'd give credit where it's due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 It's funny this should pop up, lol just played some of them on Spotify.........and totally not what i was exspecting........and not my thing. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) Coheed And Cambria are one of the best bands to emerge in the millennium, but I haven't followed them for years. Phenomenal band. They were pretty big back around 2005/06 and I remember even the RnB and hip hop crowd at my school loved Welcome Home. I might get started on them again. Terrific stuff! Edited March 28, 2016 by Segue Myles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandDesigner Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I don't hear any Rush influence on the early albums (or even the later ones). Their first two albums sound like they were influenced by post-hardcore, pop-punk, and emo bands, with the classic rock sound becoming more evident on Good Apollo I. But even then, the classic rock sound they adopted is more of a Journey/Pink Floyd/Thin Lizzy/Black Sabbath mix rather than a Rush. I think they've always been classic rock fans, and have certainly heard Rush like most classic rock fans, but I doubt they were any real influence on the direction of their music. The vocals are the main source of comparison and even then, I think early Claudio sounds more like Michael Jackson than Geddy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I don't hear any Rush influence on the early albums (or even the later ones). Their first two albums sound like they were influenced by post-hardcore, pop-punk, and emo bands, with the classic rock sound becoming more evident on Good Apollo I. But even then, the classic rock sound they adopted is more of a Journey/Pink Floyd/Thin Lizzy/Black Sabbath mix rather than a Rush. I think they've always been classic rock fans, and have certainly heard Rush like most classic rock fans, but I doubt they were any real influence on the direction of their music. The vocals are the main source of comparison and even then, I think early Claudio sounds more like Michael Jackson than Geddy. Agreed. I think because most prog fans of CaC ignore emo for the most part, they overlook the fact that a lot of the early 00's "emo" bands had higher pitched vocals. Taken out of context from the scene they started in, one might wrongly draw the wrong comparisons. I have never heard the Rush influence. Replayed the debut today. If that was where the band started, I can truly believe they had never played Rush before. It is ambitious, but also fairly derivative of the early 00's post-hardcore/emo sounds that at the time were still quite exciting and fresh. I love a lot of that era's music. By 2007 it was getting long past its sell by date, unfortunately. Bands like Thrice and Coheed And Cambria had by then already expanded their sounds successfully enough to outgrow the dying scenes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) Listening to more of them..........oh man i want to like this. my pop/hook sensibilities are going wild that voice though. nails on a chalkboard.........gah it's frustrating, lol Mick Edited March 28, 2016 by bluefox4000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Listening to more of them..........oh man i want to like this. my pop/hook sensibilities are going wild that voice though. nails on a chalkboard.........gah it's frustrating, lol Mick What album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Listening to more of them..........oh man i want to like this. my pop/hook sensibilities are going wild that voice though. nails on a chalkboard.........gah it's frustrating, lol Mick What album? the 2nd one..........In keeping Secrets yada yada Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Listening to more of them..........oh man i want to like this. my pop/hook sensibilities are going wild that voice though. nails on a chalkboard.........gah it's frustrating, lol Mick What album? the 2nd one..........In keeping Secrets yada yada Mick Aww man...I was going to recommend that one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Listening to more of them..........oh man i want to like this. my pop/hook sensibilities are going wild that voice though. nails on a chalkboard.........gah it's frustrating, lol Mick What album? the 2nd one..........In keeping Secrets yada yada Mick Aww man...I was going to recommend that one! it's an interesting struggle. this band is melodically right up my street. but when i said not for me........it really was calling out the vocals. with this band. i could learn to love it......i hope. cause i want to. lol Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Listening to more of them..........oh man i want to like this. my pop/hook sensibilities are going wild that voice though. nails on a chalkboard.........gah it's frustrating, lol Mick What album? the 2nd one..........In keeping Secrets yada yada Mick Aww man...I was going to recommend that one! it's an interesting struggle. this band is melodically right up my street. but when i said not for me........it really was calling out the vocals. with this band. i could learn to love it......i hope. cause i want to. lol Mick I was all about this style back in the day. I do remember gaining Coheed fatigue fairly often... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Listening to more of them..........oh man i want to like this. my pop/hook sensibilities are going wild that voice though. nails on a chalkboard.........gah it's frustrating, lol Mick What album? the 2nd one..........In keeping Secrets yada yada Mick Aww man...I was going to recommend that one! it's an interesting struggle. this band is melodically right up my street. but when i said not for me........it really was calling out the vocals. with this band. i could learn to love it......i hope. cause i want to. lol Mick I was all about this style back in the day. I do remember gaining Coheed fatigue fairly often... i would compare the vocals to trying to get used to Ged. while their not really the same. voice.......it's the same deal. in that the vocals are way jarring, lol Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Listening to more of them..........oh man i want to like this. my pop/hook sensibilities are going wild that voice though. nails on a chalkboard.........gah it's frustrating, lol Mick What album? the 2nd one..........In keeping Secrets yada yada Mick Aww man...I was going to recommend that one! it's an interesting struggle. this band is melodically right up my street. but when i said not for me........it really was calling out the vocals. with this band. i could learn to love it......i hope. cause i want to. lol Mick I was all about this style back in the day. I do remember gaining Coheed fatigue fairly often... i would compare the vocals to trying to get used to Ged. while their not really the same. voice.......it's the same deal. in that the vocals are way jarring, lol Mick Coheed and another band called Circa Survive released amazing music...with singers that drove me mad after three songs. I never really had that issue when I started with Rush. But then again, I started with MP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytserush Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Listening to more of them..........oh man i want to like this. my pop/hook sensibilities are going wild that voice though. nails on a chalkboard.........gah it's frustrating, lol Mick Yeah...Geddy Lee he ain't! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytserush Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I don't have anything from the last 5 years or so, but I have everything before that and I like it a lot. Keep meaning to check them out live too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Listening to more of them..........oh man i want to like this. my pop/hook sensibilities are going wild that voice though. nails on a chalkboard.........gah it's frustrating, lol Mick What album? the 2nd one..........In keeping Secrets yada yada Mick Aww man...I was going to recommend that one! it's an interesting struggle. this band is melodically right up my street. but when i said not for me........it really was calling out the vocals. with this band. i could learn to love it......i hope. cause i want to. lol Mick I was all about this style back in the day. I do remember gaining Coheed fatigue fairly often... i would compare the vocals to trying to get used to Ged. while their not really the same. voice.......it's the same deal. in that the vocals are way jarring, lol Mick Have you tried listening to some good quality live recordings of them?....I personally find that he moderates his vocals a little, and they don't sound quite as shrill or jarring which I suspect is what is bothering you the most. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Listening to more of them..........oh man i want to like this. my pop/hook sensibilities are going wild that voice though. nails on a chalkboard.........gah it's frustrating, lol Mick What album? the 2nd one..........In keeping Secrets yada yada Mick Aww man...I was going to recommend that one! it's an interesting struggle. this band is melodically right up my street. but when i said not for me........it really was calling out the vocals. with this band. i could learn to love it......i hope. cause i want to. lol Mick I was all about this style back in the day. I do remember gaining Coheed fatigue fairly often... i would compare the vocals to trying to get used to Ged. while their not really the same. voice.......it's the same deal. in that the vocals are way jarring, lol Mick Have you tried listening to some good quality live recordings of them?....I personally find that he moderates his vocals a little, and they don't sound quite as shrill or jarring which I suspect is what is bothering you the most. yea i should try that. Cause i tried the studio stuff the other day. there are really fantastic songs there......but the vocals kill me, lol Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stugotz Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) RUSH is a hot marketing tool at the moment, its a great way to get a crossover audience. The Goldbergs, Coheed and Cambria, Mike and Molly etc...... Edited May 7, 2016 by Stugotz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunter Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I saw them open for Maiden in SLC in 2012. I'd never heard them before. I remember thinking the singer sounded like Ronnie James Dio. Then I finally recognized a song they did. They covered Heaven and Hell. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Bag Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Listening to more of them..........oh man i want to like this. my pop/hook sensibilities are going wild that voice though. nails on a chalkboard.........gah it's frustrating, lol Mick What album? the 2nd one..........In keeping Secrets yada yada Mick Aww man...I was going to recommend that one! Could you recommend a couple albums for me? I think I could like this band. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Listening to more of them..........oh man i want to like this. my pop/hook sensibilities are going wild that voice though. nails on a chalkboard.........gah it's frustrating, lol Mick What album? the 2nd one..........In keeping Secrets yada yada Mick Aww man...I was going to recommend that one! Could you recommend a couple albums for me? I think I could like this band. To start: Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness And then: Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume Two: No World for Tomorrow (often just referred to as No World For Tomorrow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Bag Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Listening to more of them..........oh man i want to like this. my pop/hook sensibilities are going wild that voice though. nails on a chalkboard.........gah it's frustrating, lol Mick What album? the 2nd one..........In keeping Secrets yada yada Mick Aww man...I was going to recommend that one! Could you recommend a couple albums for me? I think I could like this band. To start: Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness And then: Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume Two: No World for Tomorrow (often just referred to as No World For Tomorrow) Thanks Segue Myles, I will check it out for sure!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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