Jag2112 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 The January 2016 issue of Sound on Sound magazine includes a new article on the recording and mixing of R40 Live. Check out more info on the article, including a link to read it in its entirety, at the following link: http://news.cygnus-x1.net/2016/01/r-is-for-rush-recording-mixing-r40-live.html Enjoy- 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueschica Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Thank you for posting this! A lot of the technical sound engineering info was over my head but very interesting anyway. As always, I am totally impressed by Rush, the people they hire, and the lengths they go to in order to bring us the best sounds possible. And I can't imagine losing the time code in the middle of the concert and having to figure out what to do to, eeek! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Too bad they couldn't do anything to help Geddy's voice. Mick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke1 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Great article thanks for sharing. Really enjoyed the bit about the Stereo vs Surround mixes, a lot more to it than I'd originally thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueschica Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Too bad they couldn't do anything to help Geddy's voice. MickIMO the real Mick would have used the word "yodeling," lol ! :) Happy New Year, TM and Mick ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Would've been nice if half of the drum mics hadn't been turned off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 I've tried twice to get the page to load and get as far as a picture with two men standing in front of a console of gadgets and knobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Does anyone know how someone becomes a record producer, or are record producers former sound engineers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Can someone just post the straight link to the article? Cygnus' site is anything but dial-up friendly (nor should it be considering I am probably one of only 1% left in this country who doesn't have high speed) and there's too much stuff to load before I can actually see the article and get the link to the rest of it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Can someone just post the straight link to the article? Cygnus' site is anything but dial-up friendly (nor should it be considering I am probably one of only 1% left in this country who doesn't have high speed) and there's too much stuff to load before I can actually see the article and get the link to the rest of it myself. This? http://cygnus-x1.net/links/rush/sos-01.2016.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytserush Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Thanks. Another one I should pick up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Does anyone know how someone becomes a record producer, or are record producers former sound engineers?Becoming a studio bitch is the first step. Then, it's who you know and who you blow. Studio bitch works for free typically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) Can someone just post the straight link to the article? Cygnus' site is anything but dial-up friendly (nor should it be considering I am probably one of only 1% left in this country who doesn't have high speed) and there's too much stuff to load before I can actually see the article and get the link to the rest of it myself. This? http://cygnus-x1.net...sos-01.2016.php No, that's the page I have tried three times to get. There is a link on that page to the article in the magazine. That's the one I am talking about. It just occurred to me that I can google the magazine and see what comes up. Edit: Found the magazine and the article only goes up to a point. You have to be a subscriber to get the rest, so don't post the link on Cygnus here. Probably will get in trouble. I'll try again on Monday. Maybe I will have better luck. Edited January 3, 2016 by Lorraine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Grownup Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Article of the year (so far)! Stuff like this is right up my alley and I'm sure I will appreciate watching R40 Live even more next time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Grownup Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) Can someone just post the straight link to the article? Cygnus' site is anything but dial-up friendly (nor should it be considering I am probably one of only 1% left in this country who doesn't have high speed) and there's too much stuff to load before I can actually see the article and get the link to the rest of it myself. This? http://cygnus-x1.net...sos-01.2016.php No, that's the page I have tried three times to get. There is a link on that page to the article in the magazine. That's the one I am talking about. It just occurred to me that I can google the magazine and see what comes up. Edit: Article "taken down" after kind guidance from Lorraine :) Edited January 3, 2016 by The Analog Grownup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Analog, you better take it off in case you get into trouble. I appreciate it though. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Grownup Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Analog, you better take it off in case you get into trouble. I appreciate it though. :) You're probably right. :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Can someone just post the straight link to the article? Cygnus' site is anything but dial-up friendly (nor should it be considering I am probably one of only 1% left in this country who doesn't have high speed) and there's too much stuff to load before I can actually see the article and get the link to the rest of it myself. This? http://cygnus-x1.net...sos-01.2016.php No, that's the page I have tried three times to get. There is a link on that page to the article in the magazine. That's the one I am talking about. It just occurred to me that I can google the magazine and see what comes up. Edit: Found the magazine and the article only goes up to a point. You have to be a subscriber to get the rest, so don't post the link on Cygnus here. Probably will get in trouble. I'll try again on Monday. Maybe I will have better luck. The link I posted isn't the same one as the one posted up above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Too bad they couldn't do anything to help Geddy's voice. Mick Ged acttually sounding way better then the past 2 live releases..........but yea the yodel is still strong in this one, lol Mick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 His voice isn't going to get any better in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasbo Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) They have got nothing on my Zoom hand held recorder and Sonos interface and Audacity program.Also what's wrong with a reel to reel tape deck in the back of a Kombi,King Crimson did it with Earthbound.These guys should get a life.Seriously,I have a pile of Audio Technical magazines from the last ten years and the advances in recording technology are amazing.To the average person reading the article they would be lost with all the terminology and processors used.I must admit I had to reread many of the passages to follow what was been done.Also scouring through my mags to read reviews of FATSO compressors etc.It all comes back to the ears of the person fiddling the knobs.This team should have been used for previous efforts not mentioning anything.I like how they virtually didn't have to do anything to Ged's bass.'Leave That Thing Alone!'. Edited January 4, 2016 by grasbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollTheBiff Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) Interesting read. I'm surprised they used samples underneath the drums - seems like a bit of unnecessary cheating. I don't feel rock drums are Botrill's strong suit. I like Richard Chycki's mixes except CA tour which was pretty muddy. R40 sounds pretty good to me since I did not like Botrill's Vapor Trails mix. I felt his production skills suited a singer focused approach like his work with Peter Gabriel. In VT Remixed, the vocals were mixed too loud. Too much wet delay and reverb. He squashed the life out of the snare to an inorganic splat, and completely rearranging the vocal parts (secret touch and ceiling unlimited) was annoying. Edited January 5, 2016 by RollTheBiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasbo Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Interesting read. I'm surprised they used samples underneath the drums - seems like a bit of unnecessary cheating. I don't feel rock drums are Botrill's strong suit. I like Richard Chycki's mixes except CA tour which was pretty muddy. R40 sounds pretty good to me since I did not like Botrill's Vapor Trails mix. I felt his production skills suited a singer focused approach like his work with Peter Gabriel. In VT Remixed, the vocals were mixed too loud. Too much wet delay and reverb. He squashed the life out of the snare to an inorganic splat, and completely rearranging the vocal parts (secret touch and ceiling unlimited) was annoying.Sampling on the drums is a surprise and i feel getting a bit anal.As I said before'Leave That Thing Alone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cygnify Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 While the mix is much better on this release - all those drum mics and they missed Neil's china cymbal! It's conspicuously absent at the end of Subdivisions and all of the other "china" moments that every Rush drummer knows... He's hitting it in the video, it just doesn't make it in the mix :( 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thombytor Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) I'm also disapointed w R40 mix...drum sound not acceptable, toms missing and all overall it sounds muddy. Overall could have been a lot better. Some of the R40 boots out there comes out clear than this one... :-( Edited March 3, 2016 by thombytor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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