MalformedEarthborn Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Cinderella Man stinks of cheese way worse than Dog Years or Red Lenses or Superconductor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tks95747 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 New Rush, or as I'd call it, mature Rush, is better than old Rush. The musicianship was top-notch in the 70's, if a bit self-indulgent. But the fantasy/sci-fi/story songs are a bit silly. The Fountain of Lamneth is awful. Vapor Trail, Secret Touch, Earthshine is the best 3-song run in the band's studio catalog. Presto is a top 5 album if you just CRANK IT UP. The weird songs are really cool because you get to hear your favorite musicians in a completely different musical environment. Tai Shan and Red Lenses are the two biggest songs in that group. Jacob's Ladder and The Camera Eye could have been about 4 minutes long; the main riffs repeat for way too long. The band sonically sounded best on Test for Echo. Meaning on the production end of things. Signals is one of the worst-mix/master/production jobs in the catalog, and it was a good move to go separate ways with Terry Brown after it. Grace Under Pressure is actually a guitar-heavy album, and despite the fact it has synths, it shouldn't really be thought of as a "synth" album. Watch some live footage, Alex is killing it on that album. Between the Wheels in particular. Power Windows, not Hold Your Fire, was the most synth-y. Live albums that sound like studio albums aren't worth my time. The last time Rush was being truly creative and expanding themselves was on Vapor Trails. Snakes and Arrows and Clockwork Angels had the band falling back on their 70's and 80's hooks. If I had to pinpoint the last song where Rush was "progressing" their sound, meaning re-inventing and invigorating, it'd be Peaceable Kingdom. In that song they were looking over the shoulder of alt/metal artists of that time period like Korn and System of a Down. It was the last time Rush was chasing the musical times. Which they did for their entire careers until Snakes and Arrows. In the late 70's and early 80's it was The Police, for example. They always used the musical climate as a lens for their sound. Until 2007. I dunno. There's some unpopular opinions I hold.It would appear as if you have just been crowned King of unpopular opinions ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tks95747 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Cinderella Man stinks of cheese way worse than Dog Years or Red Lenses or SuperconductorI believe I am going to have to go climb the mountain and consult the Sage to see if there is any truth to this vicious rumor ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalformedEarthborn Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Cinderella Man stinks of cheese way worse than Dog Years or Red Lenses or SuperconductorI believe I am going to have to go climb the mountain and consult the Sage to see if there is any truth to this vicious rumor ... Musically it is fantastic, kind of reminds me of Elton John for some reason but still great. But lines like "He had a need to discover a use for his newly found wealth" are so clunky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tks95747 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Cinderella Man stinks of cheese way worse than Dog Years or Red Lenses or SuperconductorI believe I am going to have to go climb the mountain and consult the Sage to see if there is any truth to this vicious rumor ... Musically it is fantastic, kind of reminds me of Elton John for some reason but still great. But lines like "He had a need to discover a use for his newly found wealth" are so clunkyYeah, I think this album is where Neil started waxing philosophical... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalformedEarthborn Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Cinderella Man stinks of cheese way worse than Dog Years or Red Lenses or SuperconductorI believe I am going to have to go climb the mountain and consult the Sage to see if there is any truth to this vicious rumor ... Musically it is fantastic, kind of reminds me of Elton John for some reason but still great. But lines like "He had a need to discover a use for his newly found wealth" are so clunkyYeah, I think this album is where Neil started waxing philosophical... Cinderella Man is a Geddy lyric! I think he was trying to be Neil a bit though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) Cinderella Man stinks of cheese way worse than Dog Years or Red Lenses or SuperconductorI believe I am going to have to go climb the mountain and consult the Sage to see if there is any truth to this vicious rumor ... Musically it is fantastic, kind of reminds me of Elton John for some reason but still great. But lines like "He had a need to discover a use for his newly found wealth" are so clunkyYeah, I think this album is where Neil started waxing philosophical... Cinderella Man is a Geddy lyric! I think he was trying to be Neil a bit though.Here's an unpopular Rush opinion...The other two seen to follow Neil's (changing) world view pretty closely. Too closely. When I saw Lifeson reading "The God Delusion", it didn't seem too consistent with what seems like what would pursue his interests. Fortunately, Al and Ged don't seem to share his misanthropy, though. Note: I'm not arguing that there's anything wrong with a changing worldview, in fact, it shows the ability to take in and react to new information in an appropriate way. Likewise, there's nothing wrong about skepticism about the existence of God. It's more that their worldviews seem to move in synchronicity a little too closely. Edited November 22, 2018 by laughedatbytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) "I'm not arguing that there's anything wrong with a changing worldview"In fact, it shows the ability to take in and react to new information in an appropriate way." Likewise, there's nothing wrong about skepticism about the existence of God." It's more that their worldviews seem to move in synchronicity a little too closely."Set those lyrics to a sequence of atonal arpeggios in alternating 13-7-6-11/8 time and you've got the third best song on AFTK. :P Edited November 22, 2018 by goose 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 "I'm not arguing that there's anything wrong with a changing worldview"In fact, it shows the ability to take in and react to new information in an appropriate way." Likewise, there's nothing wrong about skepticism about the existence of God." It's more that their worldviews seem to move in synchronicity a little too closely."Set those lyrics to a sequence of atonal arpeggios in alternating 13-7-6-11/8 time and you've got the third best song on AFTK. :PAnd it would downright save S&A, and only partially by contradicting the tent revival feel of the non-instrumentals (and Far Cry, I guess). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 "I'm not arguing that there's anything wrong with a changing worldview"In fact, it shows the ability to take in and react to new information in an appropriate way." Likewise, there's nothing wrong about skepticism about the existence of God." It's more that their worldviews seem to move in synchronicity a little too closely."Set those lyrics to a sequence of atonal arpeggios in alternating 13-7-6-11/8 time and you've got the third best song on AFTK. :PAnd it would downright save S&A, and only partially by contradicting the tent revival feel of the non-instrumentals (and Far Cry, I guess).:ebert: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ged Lent's sis Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Cinderella Man stinks of cheese way worse than Dog Years or Red Lenses or SuperconductorI believe I am going to have to go climb the mountain and consult the Sage to see if there is any truth to this vicious rumor ...Musically it is fantastic, kind of reminds me of Elton John for some reason but still great. But lines like "He had a need to discover a use for his newly found wealth" are so clunkyI loved it immediately, maybe because I had not long before seen and liked the pertinent Gary Cooper flick at the dollar cinema near my house growing up. I couldn't believe my favourite band were singing about Mr. Deeds! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tks95747 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Cinderella Man stinks of cheese way worse than Dog Years or Red Lenses or SuperconductorI believe I am going to have to go climb the mountain and consult the Sage to see if there is any truth to this vicious rumor ...Musically it is fantastic, kind of reminds me of Elton John for some reason but still great. But lines like "He had a need to discover a use for his newly found wealth" are so clunkyI loved it immediately, maybe because I had not long before seen and liked the pertinent Gary Cooper flick at the dollar cinema near my house growing up. I couldn't believe my favourite band were singing about Mr. Deeds!Well, now that you put it that way..... LOL :rush: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnoble Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Mystic Rhythms is boring and drags. I get what they were going for but its a skip track for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithrandir Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Superconductor is a kick ass tune! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tks95747 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Superconductor is a kick ass tune!Not unpopular in the least :rush: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Time Stand Still, I liked it better when Jim Croce did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalformedEarthborn Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Hold Your Fire blends synths, bass, and guitar the best of the Signals-Hyf run of albums 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Permanent-Rush Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Vital Signs is a damn good song imo 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas7 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 (edited) Vital Signs is a damn good song imoJust feels unfinished to me as does Countdown. Some live versions Alex put a solo at the end.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSFhUk6JL9k Edited November 25, 2018 by tas7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tks95747 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Hold Your Fire blends synths, bass, and guitar the best of the Signals-Hyf run of albumsNo disagreement from me :rush: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 The Police did The Police much, much better than Rush did The Police in the 80s. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithrandir Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 The Police did The Police much, much better than Rush did The Police in the 80s.But how did the Police do Rush in the 80's? :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 The Police did The Police much, much better than Rush did The Police in the 80s. Is that unpopular? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 The Police did The Police much, much better than Rush did The Police in the 80s. Is that unpopular? Here it is I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 The Police did The Police much, much better than Rush did The Police in the 80s.But how did the Police do Rush in the 80's? :) Not well. YYZ is a much better instrumental than Regatta de Blanc. :) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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