bluefox4000 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 CA is honestly one of the weakest batch of songs they've put out. Aside from 3 songs it's Clockwork Filler. Mick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetaxe&saw Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 I'll ignore the fart in a spacesuit brigade. It's a magnificent album, their most consistent effort since Signals. And with The Garden, they've written a classic for the ages. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 CA is honestly one of the weakest batch of songs they've put out. Aside from 3 songs it's Clockwork Filler. Mick Three songs? I think Headlong Flight, Caravan and Clockwork Angels are great. Seven Cities, The Wreckers, BU2B and Wish Them Well are good to very good. The rest I can honestly live without. The Garden used to be my favourite, but over time, once I heard the best and the rest of this band, it felt very poor in quality to the likes of the deeper cuts on HYF, PoW or even Counterparts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 CA is honestly one of the weakest batch of songs they've put out. Aside from 3 songs it's Clockwork Filler. Mick Three songs? I think Headlong Flight, Caravan and Clockwork Angels are great. Seven Cities, The Wreckers, BU2B and Wish Them Well are good to very good. The rest I can honestly live without. The Garden used to be my favourite, but over time, once I heard the best and the rest of this band, it felt very poor in quality to the likes of the deeper cuts on HYF, PoW or even Counterparts. For me it's Headlong Flight, CA, The Anarchist the rest is filler to my ears. Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 CA is honestly one of the weakest batch of songs they've put out. Aside from 3 songs it's Clockwork Filler. Mick Three songs? I think Headlong Flight, Caravan and Clockwork Angels are great. Seven Cities, The Wreckers, BU2B and Wish Them Well are good to very good. The rest I can honestly live without. The Garden used to be my favourite, but over time, once I heard the best and the rest of this band, it felt very poor in quality to the likes of the deeper cuts on HYF, PoW or even Counterparts. For me it's Headlong Flight, CA, The Anarchist the rest is filler to my ears. Mick I think on the whole this album is better than Roll The Bones, Test For Echo, Fly By Night, Signals and possibly on par with Counterparts (the best songs on CP are better than CA). I think it is the most overrated Rush album outside of Hemispheres. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 CA is honestly one of the weakest batch of songs they've put out. Aside from 3 songs it's Clockwork Filler. Mick Three songs? I think Headlong Flight, Caravan and Clockwork Angels are good. Seven Cities, The Wreckers, BU2B and Wish Them Well are lousy. The rest I can honestly live without except The Garden and Halo Effect as they are great.Agreed... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 CA is honestly one of the weakest batch of songs they've put out. Aside from 3 songs it's Clockwork Filler. Mick Three songs? I think Headlong Flight, Caravan and Clockwork Angels are good. Seven Cities, The Wreckers, BU2B and Wish Them Well are lousy. The rest I can honestly live without except The Garden and Halo Effect as they are great.Agreed... I don't like Halo Effect or The Garden! They have written many better adult songs (lyrically, I deeply appreciate both, I just find the songs fall flat) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 the Garden is overblown bad cheese. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 the Garden is overblown bad cheese. Mick I agree. Not smelly cheese, but cheese just the same. It's one of those songs that sounds like it's been done a million times before. Very predictable, which to me seems very un-Rush. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) Never mind Edited October 13, 2015 by Narps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) the Garden is overblown bad cheese. Mick I agree. Not smelly cheese, but cheese just the same. It's one of those songs that sounds like it's been done a million times before. Very predictable, which to me seems very un-Rush. i raved about it at first. but the more i thought about it. Bad song for Rush. and if that's the last album. not a song a band like Rush needs to go out on. Mick Edited October 13, 2015 by bluefox4000 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 the Garden is overblown bad cheese. Mick I agree. Not smelly cheese, but cheese just the same. It's one of those songs that sounds like it's been done a million times before. Very predictable, which to me seems very un-Rush. i raved about it at first. but the more i thought about it. Bad song for Rush. and if that's the last album. not a song a band like Rush needs to go out on. Mick I did as well, but this style of song has been done better. By both Rush and many other bands. If it wasn't a Rush song, I doubt anyone would care. Actually, that goes for the whole of CA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 the Garden is overblown bad cheese. Mick I agree. Not smelly cheese, but cheese just the same. It's one of those songs that sounds like it's been done a million times before. Very predictable, which to me seems very un-Rush. i raved about it at first. but the more i thought about it. Bad song for Rush. and if that's the last album. not a song a band like Rush needs to go out on. Mick I did as well, but this style of song has been done better. By both Rush and many other bands. If it wasn't a Rush song, I doubt anyone would care. Actually, that goes for the whole of CA. Bingo. Who outside of Rush fans knows CA Blip on the radar really. Mick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 the Garden is overblown bad cheese. Mick I agree. Not smelly cheese, but cheese just the same. It's one of those songs that sounds like it's been done a million times before. Very predictable, which to me seems very un-Rush. i raved about it at first. but the more i thought about it. Bad song for Rush. and if that's the last album. not a song a band like Rush needs to go out on. Mick I did as well, but this style of song has been done better. By both Rush and many other bands. If it wasn't a Rush song, I doubt anyone would care. Actually, that goes for the whole of CA. Bingo. Who outside of Rush fans knows CA Blip on the radar really. Mick Please don't incite the crowds... Unless you have more meme's up your sleeve lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnEggplant Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 the Garden is overblown bad cheese. Mick I agree. Not smelly cheese, but cheese just the same. It's one of those songs that sounds like it's been done a million times before. Very predictable, which to me seems very un-Rush. i raved about it at first. but the more i thought about it. Bad song for Rush. and if that's the last album. not a song a band like Rush needs to go out on. Mick I did as well, but this style of song has been done better. By both Rush and many other bands. If it wasn't a Rush song, I doubt anyone would care. Actually, that goes for the whole of CA. I would still love Clockwork Angels regardless of who released it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 the Garden is overblown bad cheese. Mick I agree. Not smelly cheese, but cheese just the same. It's one of those songs that sounds like it's been done a million times before. Very predictable, which to me seems very un-Rush. i raved about it at first. but the more i thought about it. Bad song for Rush. and if that's the last album. not a song a band like Rush needs to go out on. Mick I did as well, but this style of song has been done better. By both Rush and many other bands. If it wasn't a Rush song, I doubt anyone would care. Actually, that goes for the whole of CA. I would still love Clockwork Angels regardless of who released it. That's nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 If The Garden was a Toto ballad. you'd all assassinate it and you know it, lol Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeaveMyThingAlone Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 the Garden is overblown bad cheese. Mick I agree. Not smelly cheese, but cheese just the same. It's one of those songs that sounds like it's been done a million times before. Very predictable, which to me seems very un-Rush. i raved about it at first. but the more i thought about it. Bad song for Rush. and if that's the last album. not a song a band like Rush needs to go out on. Mick I did as well, but this style of song has been done better. By both Rush and many other bands. If it wasn't a Rush song, I doubt anyone would care. Actually, that goes for the whole of CA. Bingo. Who outside of Rush fans knows CA Blip on the radar really. Mick Who outside of Rush fans know anything about any Rush song recorded after the mid 80's? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 the Garden is overblown bad cheese. Mick I agree. Not smelly cheese, but cheese just the same. It's one of those songs that sounds like it's been done a million times before. Very predictable, which to me seems very un-Rush. i raved about it at first. but the more i thought about it. Bad song for Rush. and if that's the last album. not a song a band like Rush needs to go out on. Mick I did as well, but this style of song has been done better. By both Rush and many other bands. If it wasn't a Rush song, I doubt anyone would care. Actually, that goes for the whole of CA. I would still love Clockwork Angels regardless of who released it. New fans tend to like it until they really get into the older material. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnEggplant Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 If The Garden was a Toto ballad. you'd all assassinate it and you know it, lol Mick Actually I wouldn't, I have nothing against Toto. Heck if Justin Bieber released it I'd be happy that he was finally releasing good music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnEggplant Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 the Garden is overblown bad cheese. Mick I agree. Not smelly cheese, but cheese just the same. It's one of those songs that sounds like it's been done a million times before. Very predictable, which to me seems very un-Rush. i raved about it at first. but the more i thought about it. Bad song for Rush. and if that's the last album. not a song a band like Rush needs to go out on. Mick I did as well, but this style of song has been done better. By both Rush and many other bands. If it wasn't a Rush song, I doubt anyone would care. Actually, that goes for the whole of CA. I would still love Clockwork Angels regardless of who released it. New fans tend to like it until they really get into the older material. Hemispheres is my 2nd favorite. I adore all the albums up to and including Moving Pictures more than any other era really. Clockwork Angels is still my favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 If The Garden was a Toto ballad. you'd all assassinate it and you know it, lol Mick It would be the bands worst ballad. Seriously. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeaveMyThingAlone Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) It is annoying to continue to talk about bad mixes on Rush albums. I agree with everyone about the overall brick layered sound on CA. Everyone had the same conversation about Vapor Trails, RTB, Presto, and Hold Your Fire. What is REALLY annoying is that the only 2 Rush albums after Power Windows that sound crisp are Test for Echo and Snakes and Arrows, which also happen to be two of the worst Rush albums of all-time in terms of song quality. It's a if when they make a great album, they decide to flush the mixing down the toilet, but when the song quality sucks they decide to really nail the mixing. What's REALLY REALLY annoying is that 3 gifted, talented, musical geniuses seem to be on a completely different planet from their listeners as to what a well mixed, crisp sounding album should sound like. Geddy: We have some really kick ass stuff here Alex, how should we approach the mastering?Alex: I don't know, but as long as it doesn't sound like Moving Pictures or Permanent Waves I'm goodGeddy: Yeah, those albums are just painful to listen to. I was listening to Hold Your Fire the other day and really love how distant and muddled it sounds. Let;s approach Clockwork the same way.Alex: Sounds good Ged. Have you listened to St. Anger by Mettalica? Really like their approach on that one.Geddy: Spot on Big AlNeil: Good Luck guys. I'm outta here. Edited October 13, 2015 by LeaveMyThingAlone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ged Lent's sis Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 So it looks like that re-revived other thread has been buried by this hot topic.At first the most popular opinion was that the songs were great but the production blew. Then a couple people came along and said that, actually, the reverse was the case, or that the production was irrelevant and it didn't matter as the majority of the songs were no good. I hafta maintain that I have not been able to listen long enough to make a proper judgement. When all of their albums from PeW to HYF were released, my experience followed the pattern that I had to listen several times before I realized their greatness. The sound on CA does not allow me that freedom. It hurts too much. And it's not like my ears are wimps. I'll take this opportunity to embed this, because I'll never get sick of it, and if CA gave me that same chance, I'd bother rating more than just the sound: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 It is annoying to continue to talk about bad mixes on Rush albums. I agree with everyone about the overall brick layered sound on CA. Everyone had the same conversation about Vapor Trails, RTB, Presto, and Hold Your Fire. What is REALLY annoying is that the only 2 Rush albums after Power Windows that sound crisp are Test for Echo and Snakes and Arrows, which also happen to be two of the worst Rush albums of all-time in terms of song quality. It's a if when they make a great album, they decide to flush the mixing down the toilet, but when the song quality sucks they decide to really nail the mixing. What's REALLY REALLY annoying is that 3 gifted, talented, musical geniuses seem to be on a completely different planet from their listeners as to what a well mixed, crisp sounding album should sound like. Geddy: We have some really kick ass stuff here Alex, how should we approach the mastering?Alex: I don't know, but as long as it doesn't sound like Moving Pictures or Permanent Waves I'm goodGeddy: Yeah, those albums are just painful to listen to. I was listening to Hold Your Fire the other day and really love how distant and muddled it sounds. Let;s approach Clockwork the same way.Alex: Sounds good Ged. Have you listened to St. Anger by Mettalica? Really like their approach on that one.Geddy: Spot on Big AlNeil: Good Luck guys. I'm outta here. If you're so annoyed, why are you still reading the forum? ;) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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