tripdad Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I have seen the the show three times this tour so far. When I first heard Lakeside Park and Anthem at the Columbus show I was very disappointed. While I really like these particular songs I just don't feel they played them very well. Geddy seemed to be always trying to catch up on the vocals throughout the songs. I was hoping I just saw an off night for these two songs, but after seeing them in Chicago and Toronto the songs didn't get any better. I'm not looking for an argument here. There is no right or wrong, just an opinion. Curious if anyone shared it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union 5-3992 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Dude, title, wtf. Hopefully nobody bumps this until the title is changed. Edited June 26, 2015 by Union 5-3992 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytserush Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I have seen the the show three times this tour so far. When I first heard Lakeside Park and Anthem at the Columbus show I was very disappointed. While I really like these particular songs I just don't feel they played them very well. Geddy seemed to be always trying to catch up on the vocals throughout the songs. I was hoping I just saw an off night for these two songs, but after seeing them in Chicago and Toronto the songs didn't get any better. I'm not looking for an argument here. There is no right or wrong, just an opinion. Curious if anyone shared it. I sort of agree with you here. When I hear those songs live they are of time and a place and this isn't the time and this isn't the place. I realize that they wanted to do this for the fans this time, but i'm not sure if they are being true to themselves. Only they can answer that. Obviously there are some major extenuating circumstances regarding this tour, but to me the passion and inspiration that is there during the first set is on life support by the end of the second. It may have all been worth it for that version of Losing it. There is so much joy and sadness that it actually happened. In a way, I hope it's the only time they ever play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78jazz Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Lakeside Park is up in his range, so I get that he may have some tough nights with it. However, I think if they changed the key then there would be griping about that. I do think he is singing Anthem better now than he did in 1991-1992. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytserush Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I have seen the the show three times this tour so far. When I first heard Lakeside Park and Anthem at the Columbus show I was very disappointed. While I really like these particular songs I just don't feel they played them very well. Geddy seemed to be always trying to catch up on the vocals throughout the songs. I was hoping I just saw an off night for these two songs, but after seeing them in Chicago and Toronto the songs didn't get any better. I'm not looking for an argument here. There is no right or wrong, just an opinion. Curious if anyone shared it. I sort of agree with you here. When I hear those songs live they are of time and a place and this isn't the time and this isn't the place. I realize that they wanted to do this for the fans this time, but i'm not sure if they are being true to themselves. Only they can answer that. Obviously there are some major extenuating circumstances regarding this tour, but to me the passion and inspiration that is there during the first set is on life support by the end of the second. It may have all been worth it for that version of Losing it. There is so much joy and sadness that it actually happened. In a way, I hope it's the only time they ever play it. Take back part of what I said here after the magic that happened in Newark. The consistency that we've all come to know and love may not be there, but when they're on, They're ON. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 yep. Geddy in 2015 is not Geddy in 1979. Its a different singer. Get over it. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Yeah, the demands of singing the earlier material is a strain on Geddy's vocals. It happens to the best of them. For the record, Geddy sounded wonderful in Newark, limits and all. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celticsalmon Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Of course they are- it's called aging! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I think he's doing as well as could be expected, especially for someone over 60. That he's even attempting them is a plus in my book. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I think he's doing as well as could be expected, especially for someone over 60. That he's even attempting them is a plus in my book.He really did sound good in Newark. Again, the earlier material was probably a strain for him when he was young! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I think he's doing as well as could be expected, especially for someone over 60. That he's even attempting them is a plus in my book.He really did sound good in Newark. Again, the earlier material was probably a strain for him when he was young! But his range was more up there. Even his speaking voice was a bit higher years ago. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucsteve667 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 all sounded great or good enough for me, my only disappointment was the show ended 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symmetre Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Pretty imopressive he can pull them off at all. A lot happens to a body after decades of aging, much less aging while living out of a suitcase. I thought 'Ol Dirk did pretty well. Certainly better than I could! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeddysMullet Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Geddy sounded amazing in Newark. His passion for singing these songs that I love so much moves me to tears! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadu Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 It really depends on your perspective. If you expect to hear Geddy's voice circa 1977, you will almost certainly be disappointed. But if you are realistic and expect the 2015 version of Geddy's voice, then you have to give him credit for as well as he does with those songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custom55 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) yep. Geddy in 2015 is not Geddy in 1979. Its a different singer. Get over it. Thank you http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/custom55/200wtf_zps8860ce38.gif Edited June 29, 2015 by custom55 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndroidOnTheRun Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I feel like with the really old stuff, the tessitura is so high up there that he could just do it down the octave comfortably and it would be in normal human range. Maybe it wouldn't work (some notes would be too low) with most of the late 70s-80s material, but with stuff from the very early albums, even the low notes are pretty high. But I'm sure he's thought of that, and decided against it for whatever reason. Maybe it's a sort of, "Well, I could do it down and if I don't sound good, that will be really awful. But if I go for the high notes and don't make it, hell, at least I tried!" Which is very much in the ethos of the band. What has deteriorated most with age is his articulation. If you don't already know the lyrics... good luck. But the vocal power is still there. He may have trouble reaching some notes, but the ones he can get to, he can hold them. There's a sense of time-defying fearlessness to it that makes it work when you're seeing him arch those eyebrows live. :) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeddysMullet Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I feel like with the really old stuff, the tessitura is so high up there that he could just do it down the octave comfortably and it would be in normal human range. Maybe it wouldn't work (some notes would be too low) with most of the late 70s-80s material, but with stuff from the very early albums, even the low notes are pretty high. But I'm sure he's thought of that, and decided against it for whatever reason. Maybe it's a sort of, "Well, I could do it down and if I don't sound good, that will be really awful. But if I go for the high notes and don't make it, hell, at least I tried!" Which is very much in the ethos of the band. What has deteriorated most with age is his articulation. If you don't already know the lyrics... good luck. But the vocal power is still there. He may have trouble reaching some notes, but the ones he can get to, he can hold them. There's a sense of time-defying fearlessness to it that makes it work when you're seeing him arch those eyebrows live. :) Quoted for truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Today I learned a new word: "tessitura" - thanks AotR. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytserush Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I feel like with the really old stuff, the tessitura is so high up there that he could just do it down the octave comfortably and it would be in normal human range. Maybe it wouldn't work (some notes would be too low) with most of the late 70s-80s material, but with stuff from the very early albums, even the low notes are pretty high. But I'm sure he's thought of that, and decided against it for whatever reason. Maybe it's a sort of, "Well, I could do it down and if I don't sound good, that will be really awful. But if I go for the high notes and don't make it, hell, at least I tried!" Which is very much in the ethos of the band. What has deteriorated most with age is his articulation. If you don't already know the lyrics... good luck. But the vocal power is still there. He may have trouble reaching some notes, but the ones he can get to, he can hold them. There's a sense of time-defying fearlessness to it that makes it work when you're seeing him arch those eyebrows live. :) Or as I affectionately call it... "Evil Geddy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satchmothesnowdog Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 yep. Geddy in 2015 is not Geddy in 1979. Its a different singer. Get over it. There's a multi quote button. We need a multi like button, too :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furie Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 yep. Geddy in 2015 is not Geddy in 1979. Its a different singer. Get over it. Thank you http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/custom55/200wtf_zps8860ce38.gif Perfect response Like this even needs discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndroidOnTheRun Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Gotta say, after the NYC show, I thought Geddy sounded better than he has the last three tours. Just in terms of sheer going-for-it ferocity... moments like the Hemi Prelude, 2112 Presentation, and Lakeside blew my GD mind. He may not be in peak form vocally, but in sheer rock and roll attitude... the man cannot be beat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripdad Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 Thanks for the responses. Interesting perspectives. For the record, I do not have anything to "get over". I was just posing a discussion point. I apologize for the original title of this thread, but I thought since I was in the R40 Tour Spoiler Forum that the title would not matter as all these posts contain potential spoilers. MSG was an awesome show as usual. Anthem being one of my favorite songs has grown on me with Geddy's current vocals. Lakeside Park though could be dropped and I wouldn't be upset. I guess i want to hang on to my All the World's a Stage memories. ;- 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill1971 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 The fact that I will get to hear Lakeside Park and What you're doing live is beyond amazing. Yes it's different but that's the beauty of a live show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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