fraroc Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I feel like both tours are very similar, yet very different judging from the footage I've seen of them. I've thoroughly enjoyed both of them and think that they sounded good on both tours...I've always been more partial to the setlist of the Time Machine tour. Many people give that setlist shit because it was a "greatest hits setlist" and that the ONLY reason to see that tour was to see them to Moving Pictures in it's entirety. I felt like the Time Machine tour had a lot of variety spanning all of the decades. Snakes and Arrows tour was predominately a ton of songs from Snakes and Arrows, a few hits and a healthy amount of deep cuts. It was very, very nice to see them bring back my favorite Rush song, Witch Hunt for that tour, but I feel that it was a missed opportunity for them to do ALL of Fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I attended the S & A's tour and it was way to much S & A's material..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Narps, didn't you fall asleep during it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) I voted for Time Machine. Loved the comedy videos. That Geddy is a very talented actor. ;) Edited October 9, 2014 by Lorraine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Cub Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Loved both tours. I enjoyed Time Machine more because they pulled out more deep cuts like The Camera Eye, Stick It Out, Marathon, etc. It was also a thrill to hear BU2B and Caravan and know that those two great songs were a taste of a great album to come. The Snakes tour was also great, though. Unlike many I enjoy Snakes and Arrows and liked hearing those songs performed. This one also had some other great oddities like Digital Man, Entre Nous, Mission, Circumstances, and it was my first experience of a live performance of Witch Hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Narps, didn't you fall asleep during it?No. I just actually sat in my seat for a while. My son couldn't believe it.... :laughing guy: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Time Machine would be my pick. I liked S&N and Geddys voice was much better then. But as far as the set list goes, TM wins for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagegrace26 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Snakes and Arrows (leg 1) by far. It had a bunch of "surprise" songs - Digital Man, Entre Nous, Mission, Circumstances, Witch Hunt, Bangkok, plus it had Natural Science, while Time Machine was kind of run of the mill and haad a pretty weak first set (with a few exceptions). Even most of Moving Pictures had been played recently at that time so even that wasn't as thrilling as it could have been. Presto, Marathon, the 2 new songs, The Camera Eye, and Vital SIgns were the only real standouts. The Snakes & Arrows tour was way more adventurous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
len(songs) Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 From the boots I've seen the TM tour was better, but the S&A Tour release was better because the vocals weren't shit. Which way to vote... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) Vocals were my deciding factor too. Snakes gets it. Plus the middle of set 1 of TM is shit. Just drags. From Stick it out through Bu2B.......yawn. I can't tell you why......but at least on film........ :zzz: Mick Edited October 10, 2014 by bluefox4000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagegrace26 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Vocals were my deciding factor too. Snakes gets it. Plus the middle of set 1 of TM is shit. Just drags. From Stick it out through Bu2B.......yawn. I can't tell you why......but at least on film........ :zzz: Mick It dragged at the show too (except for BU2B for me). Hated that part of the show. That Stick It Out-Faithless block might be the worst part of any Rush tour. The Snakes and Arrows block was better than that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Vocals were my deciding factor too. Snakes gets it. Plus the middle of set 1 of TM is shit. Just drags. From Stick it out through Bu2B.......yawn. I can't tell you why......but at least on film........ :zzz: Mick It dragged at the show too (except for BU2B for me). Hated that part of the show. That Stick It Out-Faithless block might be the worst part of any Rush tour. The Snakes and Arrows block was better than that. Live it wasn't as bad because I went to get drinks and stuff, lol. but recorded it was a horrid song block. Just awful. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That One Guy Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I didn't get to see this infamous "Let's play 6 S&A songs back-to-back" bit I've heard about. TM was my first show, a great one at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Time Machine would be my pick. I liked S&N and Geddys voice was much better then. But as far as the set list goes, TM wins for me. This. The setlists aren't even close. But Geddy did so much better on S&A, especially on the official release. He wasn't that bad in the TM tour concerts that I attended, but I can't even listen to the official release. Thank geddy for bootlegs (and that nice man who gave me a fairly high quality one for the TM Tour), because even with the decreased sound quality, it is a ton better than the official release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Vocals were my deciding factor too. Snakes gets it. Plus the middle of set 1 of TM is shit. Just drags. From Stick it out through Bu2B.......yawn. I can't tell you why......but at least on film........ :zzz: Mick It dragged at the show too (except for BU2B for me). Hated that part of the show. That Stick It Out-Faithless block might be the worst part of any Rush tour. The Snakes and Arrows block was better than that. Those songs are just not very good. But the opening of the second set of S&A could be the worst 5 songs ever chosen for a rush concert (and if you take out Far Cry and just look at songs 2-5, it is a no-brainer. The audiences at the shows I went to didn't get back into the concert until Subdivisions, but after that it was all great. The vocals are far better on S&A, but the TMT setlist is so much better that you can't really compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Cub Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Time Machine would be my pick. I liked S&N and Geddys voice was much better then. But as far as the set list goes, TM wins for me. This. The setlists aren't even close. But Geddy did so much better on S&A, especially on the official release. He wasn't that bad in the TM tour concerts that I attended, but I can't even listen to the official release. Thank geddy for bootlegs (and that nice man who gave me a fairly high quality one for the TM Tour), because even with the decreased sound quality, it is a ton better than the official release. I was able to find the one from Chicago 2011 (the show I went to) and it was a much better night for Geddy. I regret ever purchasing the official release, really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clem Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) Good things about S&A: 1.Yes, they played a lot from the album, but they picked all the good songs and left off all the crappy/subpar ones ('cept for Larger Bowel - I mean Bowl)2.Tons of deep, deep cuts!!3. They swapped out a few songs between legs (although some still weren't satisfied, of course)4. Chicken!! Good things about TM:1. Two news songs2. The Entire Moving Pictures3. Including 'The Camera Eye'4. A few deep cuts5. Cool stage set up6. Neil smiled twice (at least at the show I was at)7. Sausage!! I thought they were both awesome, but I'll give TM a slight advantage. Clem Edited October 10, 2014 by clem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Grownup Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I have only seen them on dvd so my vote is based upon that. My choice is Snakes And Arrows Live simply because the sound quality and that I like the setlist. When I see Time Machine Live I don't care that much for the Moving Pictures set. Moving Pictures really don't get much airplay at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Really? Come on create some competition? Snake and Arrows tour? Really? Now R30 Versus Time Machine Tour, that would be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachenFoot Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 S&A and I don't even think it's close. I hated the TM Tour. S&A had a really nice variety in the setlist save for the consecutive S&A songs to start the second set. When you throw "Digital Man," "Entre Nous," "Natural Science," and "Witch Hunt" in the same show, you're winning big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthemic Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 going by the shows I saw, for setlist S&A, for performance TM but CA beat them both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John V Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) Geddy's voice was much better in Snakes & Arrows.I can barely bring myself to watch it when it is showing on VH1.Sounds terrible. I would not buy it. His voice actually sounded good on the S&A concert DVD. I did not see either live. Edited October 13, 2014 by John V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bri-tor Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I had a blast at both shows. I really enjoyed S&A when it came out, and was very pleased to hear so many new songs live. Naturally, any Rush concert is going to exclude some favourites, but I enjoyed the set list overall. I feel the same way about the Time Machine tour. I personally loved that they brought back Stick It Out, that I got to hear Faithless live, and it was certainly interesting to see them work through Camera Eye. I really think the set lists are varied enough that it's quite difficult to choose between these two tours...for me, at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagegrace26 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Really? Come on create some competition? Snake and Arrows tour? Really? As Snakes and Arrows tour takes the lead... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugen Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 TMT looks like a pale copy of Snakes and Arrows on DVD, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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