brunosamppa Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Hey People, The Vapor Trails version Mastered for iTunes sounds much better than the original CD mastering. Check it out! Not Remixed, but better than nothing for now! I think the work was done by Andy Vandette at Masterdisk (is part of the "Rush: The Studio Albums 1989-2007" set released today) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShlappinDahBass Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrvander Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Too bad for me. I don't participate in the Apple ecosystem. I'm curious though, do you have to buy the entire collection to get the VT tracks or can you buy them individually? At what cost? Lossy or lossless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerxster Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Link?You need a link to iTunes? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I was wondering about this. Does anyone else confirm this? I don't want to rebuy the album twice if its not a noticeable improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShlappinDahBass Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Link?You need a link to iTunes? I don't use Apple products. So, I don't have it don't have it installed to any of my PCs. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clem Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I went ahead over there and gave a couple of clips a listen. I can't really tell with my tinny computer speakers, but it DOES sound a bit better. Problem is, you have to shell out $16.77 for the album. Not sure if it's worth it. I've always said that remastering won't help Vapor Trails. It needs to flat out be redone. From scratch. Oh well, to be fair, there are some that love this album. I've never been able to figure that one out. I guess I should be thankful we're all different. Clem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smegger68 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 The BubbaSkarda remix of VP does cure a lot of the problems TBH. It's not perfect but it's much better than the standard CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunosamppa Posted May 15, 2013 Author Share Posted May 15, 2013 youtube sound sucks, but kinda sounds like this. You know, the original itunes file is better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D73zaiY1KJY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugen Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 the problem with VT is not only the mix, but the songwriting, the songs sound like a jam session rush with rage that was left unfinished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy Farrah Fowler Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Link?You need a link to iTunes? I don't use Apple products. So, I don't have it don't have it installed to any of my PCs. :D You do have a browser and working fingers, no? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShlappinDahBass Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Link?You need a link to iTunes? I don't use Apple products. So, I don't have it don't have it installed to any of my PCs. :D You do have a browser and working fingers, no? Yeah...but my keyboard is all the way over there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 It seems that these remastered are going to be released on disc as well. There's no way I'm buying a third or fourth copy of an album, but I might be convinced on VT if there is a noticeable improvement in sound quality. But then I'll probably have to buy it a third time when the remix is finished. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shredder2 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Don't get me wrong, the VT iTunes master sounds good and all, but I don't think it's really worth spending $16 on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custom55 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 These too were just released... From HDtracks. No Apple/iTunes needed. https://www.hdtracks.com/index.php?file=artistdetail&id=9556 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todem Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) It needs a remix as well. Just listen to the Retrospective remix of OLV....sounds worlds better. One day they will remix/remaster this thing. One day. Some great classic Rush tunes on that diddy. Ceiling UnlimitedGhost RiderVaportrailEarthshineFreezeNocturneSweet MiracleSecret Touch Edited May 17, 2013 by Todem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I listened to a lot of these tracks and compared to the originals with headphones I can definitely hear a difference. Everything sounds clearer and open, less compressed. Like they should sound. Really nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thizzellewashington Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Nothing mastered specifically for iTunes is going to sound good on anything other than earbuds or computer speakers. I'm seriously considering buying the HDTracks box set, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custom55 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 OK. So I tested Lakeside Park for the Mastered for iTunes vs. Lakeside Park from the a regular iTunes version. I do hear a crisper bass on the MFI version, with my earbuds on. It it worth it? Still not sure and still need more listening/comparing. I will sample a few other songs. I really need to buy a turntable and go back to LP's, like this guy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhtfF9nf4wA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thizzellewashington Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Had to jump through a whole ton of hoops, but I got the HDTracks version of Vapor Trails burned to a DVD in 24/96. Listening to it on my stereo right now. It sounds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pound of Obscure Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Had to jump through a whole ton of hoops, but I got the HDTracks version of Vapor Trails burned to a DVD in 24/96. Listening to it on my stereo right now. It sounds great. Does it have to be a DVD or can you burn them to CD? How much better is it? I'd be very interested in VT and CA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thizzellewashington Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Had to jump through a whole ton of hoops, but I got the HDTracks version of Vapor Trails burned to a DVD in 24/96. Listening to it on my stereo right now. It sounds great. Does it have to be a DVD or can you burn them to CD? How much better is it? I'd be very interested in VT and CA. The HDTracks FLAC files are 24-bit/96khz, which is more than a CD can read. CDs are encoded at 16-bit/48khz. So if you want the full 24/96 experience then yeah, you have to burn them onto DVDs. You can downconvert them to 16/48 WAVs to burn them to CD, but that defeats the purpose of having the higher-quality files in the first place. I don't know what kind of setup you have, but on my stereo, my "CD player" is actually a DVD player, so these DVDs work fine. To anyone thinking of buying these: get the HDTracks versions or don't buy them at all. If you buy the versions on iTunes, you're buying 256kbps m4a files, which are no better than MP3s. The point of these is that the sound quality is better, and that's not happening if it's those files, no matter what they say about "mastered for iTunes." If you're listening EXCLUSIVELY on an iPod or computer speakers, you're fine. But otherwise, avoid. If you have the space on your hard drive, you can convert the FLACs to Apple Lossless, which can encode at 24/96. That way, you can at least have them in iTunes and put them on your iPod/iPhone or listen to them with headphones on your computer and get the full quality, even if you can't burn them to CDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Had to jump through a whole ton of hoops, but I got the HDTracks version of Vapor Trails burned to a DVD in 24/96. Listening to it on my stereo right now. It sounds great. Does it have to be a DVD or can you burn them to CD? How much better is it? I'd be very interested in VT and CA. The HDTracks FLAC files are 24-bit/96khz, which is more than a CD can read. CDs are encoded at 16-bit/48khz. So if you want the full 24/96 experience then yeah, you have to burn them onto DVDs. You can downconvert them to 16/48 WAVs to burn them to CD, but that defeats the purpose of having the higher-quality files in the first place. I don't know what kind of setup you have, but on my stereo, my "CD player" is actually a DVD player, so these DVDs work fine. To anyone thinking of buying these: get the HDTracks versions or don't buy them at all. If you buy the versions on iTunes, you're buying 256kbps m4a files, which are no better than MP3s. The point of these is that the sound quality is better, and that's not happening if it's those files, no matter what they say about "mastered for iTunes." If you're listening EXCLUSIVELY on an iPod or computer speakers, you're fine. But otherwise, avoid. If you have the space on your hard drive, you can convert the FLACs to Apple Lossless, which can encode at 24/96. That way, you can at least have them in iTunes and put them on your iPod/iPhone or listen to them with headphones on your computer and get the full quality, even if you can't burn them to CDs. So the HDTracks are will hold more information than the soon-to-be-released CDs of these remasters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thizzellewashington Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Yes. The CDs will sound better than previous CDs but by nature of the format, they can't hold as much data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peartlee Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I'm seriously considering buying everything HDTracks has to offer for RUSH. I'd give my left nut for higher quality versions, and uncompressed remasters at 24/96 is perfect! The samples sound great. Even the samples of CA sound better IMO. Everything but CA was remastered from the original masters done on analog equipment (just read the descriptions for more info). I just wish I had portable hardware capable of playing back 24/96 files. Sadly my iPod does not. I'd never leave my car if I could rock out to those files! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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