CygnusGal Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) This song just keeps getting better and better for me. I hear a couple of things in SCOG and I haven't seen them addressed elsewhere. At 2:14-:15, I hear something that sounds like the original (TOS) Star Trek Enterprise (NCC-1701) red alert sound. It only sounds once and I don't recall hearing it in another like section of the song. I hear it on the CD and my iPod. At a few different times (1:37 & 3:10, for example), I hear what sounds like a Hammond B3 organ? I don't recall ever hearing a B3 as part of Rush's instrumentation. Does any one else hear these effects and sounds? <edit: clean up the cleanin' up> Edited September 27, 2012 by CygnusGal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) Could be....trying to sort it out and isolate is hard. I think its a funky chord with a flange effect at 1:37...that's a guitar in my mind....but I could be wrong. Alex does so much stuff in terms of effects. It's peeked my interest that's for sure. This song is all about Geddy...kicking major ass Edited September 26, 2012 by Tombstone Mountain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg2112 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Best song on the album. Glad to see its finally starting to get some recognition around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerxster Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 QUOTE (CygnusGal @ Sep 26 2012, 04:54 PM) At 2:14-:15, I hear something that sounds like the original (TOS) Star Trek Enterprise (NCC-1701) red alert sound. It only sounds once and I don't recall hearing it in another like section of the song. I hear it on the CD and my iPod. I don't hear that. I hear Geddy's vocal echoing out, but no red alert. Then again, I'm listening through my laptop speakers. QUOTE At a few different times (1:37 & 3:10, for example), I hear what sounds like a Hammond B3 organ? I don't recall ever hearing a B3 as part of Rush's instrumentation. Does any one else hear these effects and sounds? I definitely hear the organ. In the CA credits, it doesn't mention anyone but Rush playing on SCOG. Alex and Geddy were given keyboard credit, so it had to be one of them. There was an organ keyboard sound on Cut To The Chase. That album listed "Additional keyboards by John Webster". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYM86 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 I haven't heard the things you mentioned but I'll listen for them...either way, 7COG is my go-to song on this album. A brilliant track... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Great track! I haven't listened on a good sound system, so all the little details are lost on me. Glad to see the song getting love! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomesickAlien Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (CygnusGal @ Sep 26 2012, 04:54 PM)This song just keeps getting better and better for me. I hear a couple of things in SCOG and I haven't seen them addressed elsewhere. At 2:14-:15, I hear something that sounds like the original (TOS) Star Trek Enterprise (NCC-1701) red alert sound. It only sounds once and I don't recall hearing it in another like section of the song. I hear it on the CD and my iPod. Does any one else hear these effects and sounds? I hear some sort of weird effect at 2:15, but only when listening on an iPod with the volume way up. It only lasts a fraction of a second, and would go unnoticed unless you're specifically listening for it. To me, 7COG is reminiscent of Promise from Victor, especially the guitar solo. Does anyone else notice the similarity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I listened to CA on my way out to Springfield today. I don't have your keen ear, but I still say this is in the running for best track on the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangster of Goats Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I'm not hearing the Star Trek thing, but I've always heard the Hammond-y bits. Whether it's an organ/keyboard or some Lerxst-O-Phonic effects illusionism on a guitar overdub, it adds to the kind of 70s flavor of the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sawyer Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (greg2112 @ Sep 26 2012, 07:03 PM) Best song on the album. Glad to see its finally starting to get some recognition around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman208 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 My favourite song on the album! Lately when I've listened to it I've been really digging the ending, with all the feedback from the guitar and the Taurus pedals holding down the low end, just creeping in slowly. Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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losingit2k Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) Edited September 27, 2012 by losingit2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condemned2bfree Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (greg2112 @ Sep 27 2012, 12:03 AM) Best song on the album. Glad to see its finally starting to get some recognition around here. Probably not the best song on the album, but i instantly loved it and still do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 QUOTE (condemned2bfree @ Sep 27 2012, 02:57 PM) QUOTE (greg2112 @ Sep 27 2012, 12:03 AM) Best song on the album. Glad to see its finally starting to get some recognition around here. Probably not the best song on the album, but i instantly loved it and still do I agree with you C2BF...which says something about the album...so many GREAT songs. The outro to the guitar solo is Alex unhinged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spock Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Funny you should mention that... I had to take a CA break (heresy? Spent a couple of weeks spinning PT (wow, Lightbulb Sun is good!)) and just got back to listening to CA yesterday. SCOG and The Anarchist have really grown on me. The opening to SCOG is one of the strongest song openers I've heard in a while. I'll give it a listen and see if I can hear those parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spock Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Definitely heard the Hammond Organ sounds - very clear once you're listening for them. As with some other parts on the album, I can't tell if it's a low-level keyboard or some effect on the guitar? Perfect sound for those parts of the song! I listened for the bridge alarm, couldn't make it out on the car stereo - not the best system in the world. I wouldn't put anything past them so I'll avoid blaming it on a spurious inter-harmonic cross-distortion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg2112 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 (edited) Edited September 29, 2012 by greg2112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CygnusGal Posted September 29, 2012 Author Share Posted September 29, 2012 I did notice a slight variation in my CD time vs. my iPod time. Just to add an aural reference point: "a splendid mirage in this desolation" is the vocal line. In the right channel (I can not hear it in the left channel) at the end of the vocal line at 2:14-ish - Geddy descends on the word "desolation" and the effect rises as Geddy sings the fourth syllable. To my ear, it is not it reverb - I can't hear an originating instrument. The sound does not repeat at 5:27-ish when "desolation" is repeated. I hear it more easily at lower volumes. Although, I still hear it at loud volumes. Truck stereo definitely gets a workout with this song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcm Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 This one and Wreckers were the first songs to really hit me. Bass on seven cities and vocals and lyrics on Wreckers. Of course The Garden is beautiful but didn't grab me just made me cry.....ah us Rush girls are such sensitive girls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waluigithewalrus Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 QUOTE (hcm @ Oct 5 2012, 05:53 PM) This one and Wreckers were the first songs to really hit me. Bass on seven cities and vocals and lyrics on Wreckers. Of course The Garden is beautiful but didn't grab me just made me cry.....ah us Rush girls are such sensitive girls I don't think he was talking about that type of effect. Anyways, I'm glad I saw this thread, or I would have never noticed the Hammond. Now I'm going to pick it up every time I listen to it. As for the Star Trek Red Alarm sound...I hear a guitar effect, but no alarm sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBDIVISIONS Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Its called "Flanger" you hear it too on 5:07 Neil used on the old "listen" drum solo at Caress of steel This song just keeps getting better and better for me. I hear a couple of things in SCOG and I haven't seen them addressed elsewhere. At 2:14-:15, I hear something that sounds like the original (TOS) <a href='http://www.trekcore.com/audio/redalertandklaxons/tos_red_alert.mp3' target='_blank'>Star Trek Enterprise (NCC-1701) red alert sound</a>. It only sounds once and I don't recall hearing it in another like section of the song. I hear it on the CD and my iPod. At a few different times (1:37 & 3:10, for example), I hear what sounds like a Hammond B3 organ? I don't recall ever hearing a B3 as part of Rush's instrumentation. Does any one else hear these effects and sounds? <!--emo&--><img src='http://www.therushforum.com/html/emoticons/unsure.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='unsure.gif' /><!--endemo--> <edit: clean up the cleanin' up> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CygnusGal Posted December 13, 2012 Author Share Posted December 13, 2012 I wondered what happened to this thread. Figured it just languished. I understand flanger. I didn't think it was a flange. In this instance, I found the delay was so pronounced as to be a new sound itself. I did find an example of a whoosh flanger http://www.pond5.com...-and-delay.html. Yes, I think they used some variation of the flange effect. And, it is still so pronounced to my ear all these months later. I don't hear it as well at ~05:07. And I know the sound on CoS to which you're referring. That backward sounding cymbal (hi-hat?). Strange part of that song. Thanks. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I keep going back to this outro of the solo...Alex and his genius for creating soundscapes is at the peak of his creative power there :haz: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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