briremo Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I'm beginning to become dubious of Neil's rejection of Rand This album is blanketed with individualism, objectivism and a good dose of anti-deism. All of which I love But I will say this; I do not see "The Watchmaker" as a maleavolent deity forcing a belief system on people. Rather, I think he's discussing the restrictions of time itself. He is getting older and as our longevity disappears, we begin to see the limits to what we can accomplish in the time we have and how we usually don;t realize it until its too late The last two songs lay this out perfectly in that the main character learns you cant change people and all you can do is tend your own garden. Of course to me the title track also clearly supports my theory, Clockwork Angels...hmmmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGr8imL84AD8inF8sBlackSedan Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Entirely possible...Never looked at it like that. However I like to look at The Watchmaker as sort of The Wizard in The Wizard of Oz. He doesn't really do much that impacts peoples lives directly. He just sort of runs the show and life goes on around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condemned2bfree Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (OGr8imL84AD8inF8sBlackSedan @ Jun 24 2012, 02:19 PM) Entirely possible...Never looked at it like that. However I like to look at The Watchmaker as sort of The Wizard in The Wizard of Oz. He doesn't really do much that impacts peoples lives directly. He just sort of runs the show and life goes on around him. There's a lot where Mr peart channels from. Like the wizard of oz analogy, for the watchmaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briremo Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 Right, reading the pastors review got me thinking that we often view Neil's lyrics through our prism of his anti-religious opinions. But this album has that wizard of 0z feel as stated above. I initially jumpe to the conclusion that the watcaker was Neil's evil version of god. Father time is my bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArrowSnake Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (briremo @ Jun 24 2012, 01:49 PM) I'm beginning to become dubious of Neil's rejection of Rand This album is blanketed with individualism, objectivism and a good dose of anti-deism. All of which I love But I will say this; I do not see "The Watchmaker" as a maleavolent deity forcing a belief system on people. Rather, I think he's discussing the restrictions of time itself. He is getting older and as our longevity disappears, we begin to see the limits to what we can accomplish in the time we have and how we usually don;t realize it until its too late This is all true I think. But the connection with the Watchmaker Analogy, and the book "The Blind Watchmaker: Why the Evidence of Evolution Reveals a Universe without Design" by Richard Dawkins is also there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakly Criminal Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 The open nature of this album should spur book sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gedneil Alpeart Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (briremo @ Jun 24 2012, 07:49 AM) I'm beginning to become dubious of Neil's rejection of Rand This album is blanketed with individualism, objectivism and a good dose of anti-deism. All of which I love But I will say this; I do not see "The Watchmaker" as a maleavolent deity forcing a belief system on people. Rather, I think he's discussing the restrictions of time itself. He is getting older and as our longevity disappears, we begin to see the limits to what we can accomplish in the time we have and how we usually don;t realize it until its too late The last two songs lay this out perfectly in that the main character learns you cant change people and all you can do is tend your own garden. Of course to me the title track also clearly supports my theory, Clockwork Angels...hmmmm? ....and sometimes suffering and hardship can strengthen healthy perspectives and compassion to spur a more giving attitude, if one does not succumb to drowning in bitterness and rage. Wish Them Well and The Garden are the good sides to a hard life. Edited June 24, 2012 by Gedneil Alpeart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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