TheBluePhoenix Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lerxster Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ Jun 21 2012, 07:07 PM) I really say no, this is a rock opera. I really don't think current events make any impact in this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanadoo Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I'm all for making connections but this feels a little reachy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I'm going to say "far reaching coincidence". I think Neil probably had most of the lyrics written before the Occupy movement started making headlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two0neOneTwo Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) Edited June 22, 2012 by Workaholic Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Union 5-3992 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Occupy, are they even still out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Dude, you are so: http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_484/1268109699o0vPka.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AndroidOnTheRun Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I don't really want to get into this -- and PLEASE know that the following contains only my observations, not my personal political views, as I understand such ought to be left to SOCN -- but hasn't it long been established that Ayn Rand is not Neil's muse? Obviously he's still all about the individual -- which is why his lyrics have always spoken to me -- but he has on numerous occasions distanced himself vehemently from stalwart Objectivism. I would argue that Neil's last song to expound strongly upon right-leaning fiscal views is The Trees. Starting with Power Windows especially, he seems to add a measure of compassion beyond the individual that is not part of strict Objectivist thinking. My guess is the Neil of today is more skeptical of "Big Money" than of those who speak out against exploitation (real or merely perceived) by the ultra-rich . I do not presume that Neil would be in favor of or against Occupy, but I don't think that a (mostly) harmless group of protesters -- now largely forgotten -- are equivalent to the Anarchist. The character that Neil portrays has obviously suffered some real injustice in his life, but his hate has twisted warranted indignance to active evil. Most criticism I hear of the Occupy folks portrays them as having suffered perceived injustice that is twisted to active complaining... not quite as nefarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) Edited June 22, 2012 by Workaholic Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndroidOnTheRun Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 QUOTE (Workaholic Man @ Jun 21 2012, 10:17 PM) He's reached the top of the moutain, and he's found that the Wise Elder sitting at the top was himself all along. ...and China sang to him, in the peaceful haze of harvest time, a song of eternity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 QUOTE (AndroidOnTheRun @ Jun 21 2012, 09:14 PM)....but hasn't it long been established that Ayn Rand is not Neil's muse? Obviously he's still all about the individual -- which is why his lyrics have always spoken to me -- but he has on numerous occasions distanced himself vehemently from stalwart Objectivism. You are correct. One of Neil's most famous quotes is, "I am no one's disciple." He liked SOME of Rand's ideas way back in the 70's. He also really liked The Lord Of The Rings. Rush fans and the music establishment have made the same mistake for 40 years - defining Neil Peart as a devout follower of Ayn Rand. IT IS NOT TRUE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredtamasrule Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Whatever you're smoking, you need to share it. http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2012/01/man-smoking-pot-flight.jpeg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublebullout Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 To the extent that members of the Occupy movement exhibit the characteristics of envious and bitter individuals, yes. But the same can be said of many teenagers. I don't believe for a second that Neil's lyrics are targeted at any specific political group, especially Occupiers. The Anarchist is just an illustration of the effects of unrestrained envy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkingBig Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) Edited June 22, 2012 by ThinkingBig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circumstantial tree Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 And here I thought "Occupiers" had vanished into thin air (and hopefully back to work). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CygnusX-1Bk2 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I didn't realize there were right wing nut jobs here. Do you really think a Canadian is going to give 2 sh!ts about some American underground movement? You probably think that Faithless is a ringing endorsement of faith. Give me a f***ing break! Y'all have a little too much time on your hands. Talk about drinking the Kool-Aid... You do realize that Rush is a progressive band in the true meaning of the word? And that they are Canadian, which to Republicans are categorized as Socialists. I don't know whether to laugh or be concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionDetector Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantStopThinkingBig Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 are the Occupiers even still around? I think they all went back to their mom's basements to get high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutman Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 QUOTE (circumstantial tree @ Jun 21 2012, 06:54 PM) And here I thought "Occupiers" had vanished into thin air (and hopefully back to work). There are no jobs, Whats an occupier to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circumstantial tree Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 QUOTE (troutman @ Jun 21 2012, 11:33 PM) QUOTE (circumstantial tree @ Jun 21 2012, 06:54 PM) And here I thought "Occupiers" had vanished into thin air (and hopefully back to work). There are no jobs, Whats an occupier to do? Look at the want ads in the local papers, craigslist, careerbuilder...something more constructive than simply bitching and pissing on the sidewalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutman Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 QUOTE (CygnusX-1Bk2 @ Jun 21 2012, 07:11 PM)I didn't realize there were right wing nut jobs here. Do you really think a Canadian is going to give 2 sh!ts about some American underground movement? You probably think that Faithless is a ringing endorsement of faith. Give me a f***ing break! Y'all have a little too much time on your hands. Talk about drinking the Kool-Aid... You do realize that Rush is a progressive band in the true meaning of the word? And that they are Canadian, which to Republicans are categorized as Socialists. I don't know whether to laugh or be concerned. Actually, it's going on all over Canada as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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