UltimoGuitarist Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Anyone else bothered by this at all? Basically, at 2:41 - 2:46, there is no drum roll lead up into the next verse at all. No big deal...whatevs, it doesnt seem like Peart at all NOT to put something there but that's fine. But at LEAST put some kind of dominant cymbal crash at the beginning of the verse to kick it off with some power. Instead it just seems like he starts rocking the verse right on the highhat. Was this a recording error or something maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shreddy Lee Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I noticed it, but I'm sure it was just a choice he made. Not everything needs a flashy drum fill - the previous time he did put one in, and a great one at that, so that time he probably just wanted to let it breathe a little and mix it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimoGuitarist Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 QUOTE (Shreddy Lee @ Jun 20 2012, 04:13 PM) I noticed it, but I'm sure it was just a choice he made. Not everything needs a flashy drum fill - the previous time he did put one in, and a great one at that, so that time he probably just wanted to let it breathe a little and mix it up. Yeah I agree with that. Sometimes simple is best. I love the drum fill he did on the other lead-up to the verse. It was placed on an odd beat and landed right on the money (obviously) and I love it. But yeah, the first one is just so blaw. I realize it's meant to showcase Alex doing the riff, but all I'm saying is at LEAST give us a big boom on the entrance to the verse. Like a deadly cymbal crash. Maybe for the live show a bomb like in Far Cry will go off and I'll be satisfied. =p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprestobunnies Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 It just emphasizes the guitar riff, I think its great the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syrinxstarman Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 As a drummer, I love it. You don't have to be playing every single moment, plus the guitar sounds amazing by itself. I feel like it adds suspense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-D-RocK- Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Oh fer christ sake........what next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrapin Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 QUOTE (UltimoGuitarist @ Jun 20 2012, 08:04 PM) Anyone else bothered by this at all? Basically, at 2:41 - 2:46, there is no drum roll lead up into the next verse at all. No big deal...whatevs, it doesnt seem like Peart at all NOT to put something there but that's fine. But at LEAST put some kind of dominant cymbal crash at the beginning of the verse to kick it off with some power. Instead it just seems like he starts rocking the verse right on the highhat. Was this a recording error or something maybe? More likely a result of Nick R's "conducting" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimoGuitarist Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 QUOTE (Terrapin @ Jun 20 2012, 05:01 PM) QUOTE (UltimoGuitarist @ Jun 20 2012, 08:04 PM) Anyone else bothered by this at all? Basically, at 2:41 - 2:46, there is no drum roll lead up into the next verse at all. No big deal...whatevs, it doesnt seem like Peart at all NOT to put something there but that's fine. But at LEAST put some kind of dominant cymbal crash at the beginning of the verse to kick it off with some power. Instead it just seems like he starts rocking the verse right on the highhat. Was this a recording error or something maybe? More likely a result of Nick R's "conducting" owned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deslock Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I disagree as I like that part the way it is (focusing on the guitar). However, I'm surprised there isn't a little fill at ~1:03 as that spot seems perfect for one. But the moment of restraint adds to the song's variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
launchpad67a Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 QUOTE (deslock @ Jun 20 2012, 02:30 PM) However, I'm surprised there isn't a little fill at ~1:03 as that spot seems perfect for one. But the moment of restraint adds to the song's variety. @1:03 is right in the middle of the verse. No fill needed there for sure. As for the 2:41 - 2:46 part, it's perfect as it. The notes you don't play are the most important in music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYM86 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (-D-RocK- @ Jun 20 2012, 03:54 PM) Oh fer christ sake........what next? This is great detailed analysis of the song, and quite a few people have something to say about it. It's something I've noticed as well. So yeah, not sure what you're trying to accomplish with that post. Yes I picked up on that too, and it feels kind of empty there. Edited June 21, 2012 by NYM86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReflectedLight Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 QUOTE (Terrapin @ Jun 20 2012, 04:01 PM) QUOTE (UltimoGuitarist @ Jun 20 2012, 08:04 PM) Anyone else bothered by this at all? Basically, at 2:41 - 2:46, there is no drum roll lead up into the next verse at all. No big deal...whatevs, it doesnt seem like Peart at all NOT to put something there but that's fine. But at LEAST put some kind of dominant cymbal crash at the beginning of the verse to kick it off with some power. Instead it just seems like he starts rocking the verse right on the highhat. Was this a recording error or something maybe? More likely a result of Nick R's "conducting" maestro nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack jaw gaze Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Maybe the cookbook on how to construct drum parts is the one book Neil didn't read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 QUOTE (-D-RocK- @ Jun 20 2012, 01:54 PM) Oh fer christ sake........what next? those were pretty much my thoughts as well. i briefly considered going to listen to the song to see what on earth the OP was talking about, but to quote our british friends from across the pond, "i couldn't be arsed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnotes Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 QUOTE (syrinxstarman @ Jun 20 2012, 02:52 PM) As a drummer, I love it. You don't have to be playing every single moment, plus the guitar sounds amazing by itself. I feel like it adds suspense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 One of the best aspects of Rush's music is their use of space. Not making any sounds at certain points in the song can be more powerful than making sounds. That brief "lull in the action" really added emphasis to the beginning of the next verse ("All the treasures...."). I think it's one of the best parts of the song..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 QUOTE (launchpad67a @ Jun 20 2012, 05:06 PM) The notes you don't play are the most important in music. Damned straight. What does all the crap pop-rock of today have in common? Constant noise......constant bang crash, chord bashing, cymbals, noise, noise, NOISE!! The listeners' ears don't have a chance...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnotes Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 QUOTE (Workaholic Man @ Jun 20 2012, 09:57 PM) QUOTE (launchpad67a @ Jun 20 2012, 05:06 PM) The notes you don't play are the most important in music. Damned straight. What does all the crap pop-rock of today have in common? Constant noise......constant bang crash, chord bashing, cymbals, noise, noise, NOISE!! The listeners' ears don't have a chance...... It is what it is................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantStopThinkingBig Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I'm more bothered by Geddy's lack of enunciation... if I didn't know the lyrics I'd never understand what he's saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimoGuitarist Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 QUOTE (launchpad67a @ Jun 20 2012, 06:06 PM) QUOTE (deslock @ Jun 20 2012, 02:30 PM) However, I'm surprised there isn't a little fill at ~1:03 as that spot seems perfect for one. But the moment of restraint adds to the song's variety. @1:03 is right in the middle of the verse. No fill needed there for sure. As for the 2:41 - 2:46 part, it's perfect as it. The notes you don't play are the most important in music. Yeah you're right, never really noticed the 1:03 spot, that does sound off, but not enough for me to make a case of it. Anyways, as I've said about MY mentioned section, I have no issue with there not being some fancy ass fill there. It would be nice, but that's not the main issue. I just feel that at the very least they could have made a more obvious cymbal crash on the beginning of the verse. It just doesn't provide any UMPH to the beginning of the next part. Just seems weak that's all. I think there is a crash there, but its barely audible for some reason. So, it's almost as if the intent was there, but just ignored in recording. Maybe Neil missed. Yeah that's gotta be it. =p *comes to ridiculous conclusion on my own* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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