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For now....I would prefer it to:

 

Counterparts-for sure

Test for echo-for sure

Presto

Roll the bones

Rush-never ever listen to this

Caress of steel-never listen to this either

Feedback-blah

 

For now.....I would group it in my must haves list:

 

Clockwork angels

Vapor trails

Hold your fire(I totally agree with who said that 8 Songs on here are outstanding..two duds...tiashan and second nature)

Power windows

Moving pix

Signals

Permanent waves

Farewell to kings

Hemispheres

 

 

The bubble:

 

Snakes and arrows

GUP

 

 

Better than any on my good list depends on what style I am in the mood for....

 

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DEFINITELY better than:

 

A Farewell To Kings

Test For Echo

Snakes & Arrows

Presto

2112

Vapor Trails

Hold Your Fire

Fly By Night

Caress of Steel

Feedback

Rush

Roll The Bones

 

NOT better than:

 

Moving Pictures

Permanent Waves

 

MIGHT BE better than

 

Signals

Hemispheres

Counterparts

Grace Under Pressure

Power Windows

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QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 12:35 AM)
QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 17 2012, 09:45 PM)
QUOTE (DistantEarlyRushFan @ Jun 17 2012, 11:31 PM)
QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 17 2012, 11:28 PM)
Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY better than:
Vapor Trails
Test For Echo
Roll The Bones
Presto
2112
Hold Your Fire
Rush
Fly By Night
Power Windows
Counterparts
Caress of Steel
Snakes & Arrows
Grace Under Pressure

Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY NOT better than:
Hemispheres
Moving Pictures
Permanent Waves


Clockwork Angels MIGHT be better than:
A Farewell To Kings
Signals

Just the fact that you are comparing a Whole Concept Album and a total of 12 songs against albums normally containing between 8 to 10 songs should give CA an edge over most.

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No way Clockwork Angels is better than Signals or AFTK

Really? If I go into the market I will always buy the basket with 12 oranges over the basket with only 7 or 8. Now, that said the smaller basket might have Calidornia Oranges which means they are more tasty. The question here is, is that basket with fewer tastier oranges enough to keep you from the basket with more oranges that are slightly less tasty?

 

Or is:

 

A Farwell to Kings > = < Than Caravan & BU2B

Xanadu > = < Than Clockwork Angels, The Anarchist & Carnies

Closer to the Heart > = < Than Halo Effect

Cinderella Man > = < Than Seven Cities of Gold

Madrigal > = < Than The Wreckers

Cygnus X-1 > = < Headlong Flight, BU2B2, Wish Them Well, The Garden

 

See this paints a whole different piture!

 

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Regarding your orange example - The only way I don't choose the 7 or 8 tastier oranges over the 12 not as good tasting ones is if I'm watching my finances, and with Rush songs that's never an issue.

 

I'd rather take less of a higher quality over more of a lesser quality any day of the week.

 

I just don't think you can change it into a math equation. no.gif

Are you saying that Caravan and BU2B combined are not equal or better than A Farewell to Kings or that Clockwork Angels, The Anarachist and Carnies combined are not equal or better to Xanadu Which is basically the same song twice plus a lead, or that Headlong Flight, BU2B2, Wish them Well and The Garden combined are not equal or better than Cygnus X-1? Is this what you are saying?

 

Well I think you are deluting yourself then.

 

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Yeah I want whatever drugs people are on who think this is better than Hemispheres, or even Signals.

 

Seriously?

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QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 18 2012, 03:23 PM)
QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 12:35 AM)
QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 17 2012, 09:45 PM)
QUOTE (DistantEarlyRushFan @ Jun 17 2012, 11:31 PM)
QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 17 2012, 11:28 PM)
Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY better than:
Vapor Trails
Test For Echo
Roll The Bones
Presto
2112
Hold Your Fire
Rush
Fly By Night
Power Windows
Counterparts
Caress of Steel
Snakes & Arrows
Grace Under Pressure

Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY NOT better than:
Hemispheres
Moving Pictures
Permanent Waves


Clockwork Angels MIGHT be better than:
A Farewell To Kings
Signals

Just the fact that you are comparing a Whole Concept Album and a total of 12 songs against albums normally containing between 8 to 10 songs should give CA an edge over most.

yes.gif

No way Clockwork Angels is better than Signals or AFTK

Really? If I go into the market I will always buy the basket with 12 oranges over the basket with only 7 or 8. Now, that said the smaller basket might have Calidornia Oranges which means they are more tasty. The question here is, is that basket with fewer tastier oranges enough to keep you from the basket with more oranges that are slightly less tasty?

 

Or is:

 

A Farwell to Kings > = < Than Caravan & BU2B

Xanadu > = < Than Clockwork Angels, The Anarchist & Carnies

Closer to the Heart > = < Than Halo Effect

Cinderella Man > = < Than Seven Cities of Gold

Madrigal > = < Than The Wreckers

Cygnus X-1 > = < Headlong Flight, BU2B2, Wish Them Well, The Garden

 

See this paints a whole different piture!

 

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Regarding your orange example - The only way I don't choose the 7 or 8 tastier oranges over the 12 not as good tasting ones is if I'm watching my finances, and with Rush songs that's never an issue.

 

I'd rather take less of a higher quality over more of a lesser quality any day of the week.

 

I just don't think you can change it into a math equation. no.gif

Are you saying that Caravan and BU2B combined are not equal or better than A Farewell to Kings or that Clockwork Angels, The Anarachist and Carnies combined are not equal or better to Xanadu Which is basically the same song twice plus a lead, or that Headlong Flight, BU2B2, Wish them Well and The Garden combined are not equal or better than Cygnus X-1? Is this what you are saying?

 

Well I think you are deluting yourself then.

 

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You don't put a 12 song 66 minute album against a 6 song 37 minute album and say these two CA songs beat this one AFTK song etc, it doesn't work like that. If they were still releasing albums every year Clockwork Angels would not exist, it would be two albums of around 35 minutes long. Clockwork Angels is basically two 70s era albums in one, which is what you get in this era of 4 and 5 year gaps between albums.

 

And further think of this; if you compare the 5 years between S&A and CA to the 5 years between 2112 and Moving Pictures, who wins the battle then? Not that music is a competition or anything...

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QUOTE (DistantEarlyRushFan @ Jun 18 2012, 04:15 PM)
QUOTE (CygnusX-1Bk2 @ Jun 18 2012, 03:54 PM)
Yeah I want whatever drugs people are on who think this is better than Hemispheres, or even Signals.

Seriously?

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too many drugs

bath salts

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QUOTE (DistantEarlyRushFan @ Jun 17 2012, 11:31 PM)
QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 17 2012, 11:28 PM)
Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY better than:
Vapor Trails
Test For Echo
Roll The Bones
Presto
2112
Hold Your Fire
Rush
Fly By Night
Power Windows
Counterparts
Caress of Steel
Snakes & Arrows
Grace Under Pressure

Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY NOT better than:
Hemispheres
Moving Pictures
Permanent Waves


Clockwork Angels MIGHT be better than:
A Farewell To Kings
Signals

Just the fact that you are comparing a Whole Concept Album and a total of 12 songs against albums normally containing between 8 to 10 songs should give CA an edge over most.

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No way Clockwork Angels is better than Signals or AFTK

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QUOTE (canadianice @ Jun 18 2012, 04:16 PM)
QUOTE (DistantEarlyRushFan @ Jun 18 2012, 04:15 PM)
QUOTE (CygnusX-1Bk2 @ Jun 18 2012, 03:54 PM)
Yeah I want whatever drugs people are on who think this is better than Hemispheres, or even Signals.

Seriously?

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too many drugs

bath salts

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QUOTE (canadianice @ Jun 18 2012, 04:16 PM)
QUOTE (DistantEarlyRushFan @ Jun 18 2012, 04:15 PM)
QUOTE (CygnusX-1Bk2 @ Jun 18 2012, 03:54 PM)
Yeah I want whatever drugs people are on who think this is better than Hemispheres, or even Signals.

Seriously?

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too many drugs

bath salts

No Bath salts are just evil!

 

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QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 18 2012, 01:23 PM)
QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 12:35 AM)
QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 17 2012, 09:45 PM)
QUOTE (DistantEarlyRushFan @ Jun 17 2012, 11:31 PM)
QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 17 2012, 11:28 PM)
Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY better than:
Vapor Trails
Test For Echo
Roll The Bones
Presto
2112
Hold Your Fire
Rush
Fly By Night
Power Windows
Counterparts
Caress of Steel
Snakes & Arrows
Grace Under Pressure

Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY NOT better than:
Hemispheres
Moving Pictures
Permanent Waves


Clockwork Angels MIGHT be better than:
A Farewell To Kings
Signals

Just the fact that you are comparing a Whole Concept Album and a total of 12 songs against albums normally containing between 8 to 10 songs should give CA an edge over most.

yes.gif

No way Clockwork Angels is better than Signals or AFTK

Really? If I go into the market I will always buy the basket with 12 oranges over the basket with only 7 or 8. Now, that said the smaller basket might have Calidornia Oranges which means they are more tasty. The question here is, is that basket with fewer tastier oranges enough to keep you from the basket with more oranges that are slightly less tasty?

 

Or is:

 

A Farwell to Kings > = < Than Caravan & BU2B

Xanadu > = < Than Clockwork Angels, The Anarchist & Carnies

Closer to the Heart > = < Than Halo Effect

Cinderella Man > = < Than Seven Cities of Gold

Madrigal > = < Than The Wreckers

Cygnus X-1 > = < Headlong Flight, BU2B2, Wish Them Well, The Garden

 

See this paints a whole different piture!

 

yes.gif

Regarding your orange example - The only way I don't choose the 7 or 8 tastier oranges over the 12 not as good tasting ones is if I'm watching my finances, and with Rush songs that's never an issue.

 

I'd rather take less of a higher quality over more of a lesser quality any day of the week.

 

I just don't think you can change it into a math equation. no.gif

Are you saying that Caravan and BU2B combined are not equal or better than A Farewell to Kings

I am saying EXACTLY that. Caravan and BU2B are great songs, but A Farewell To Kings is an absolute stone cold killer classic. If I had to choose, Caravan and BU2B combined would lose.

 

QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 18 2012, 01:23 PM)
or that Clockwork Angels, The Anarachist and Carnies combined are not equal or better to Xanadu Which is basically the same song twice plus a lead

I'd hate to lose that title track, but those three combined would lose to Xanadu. In fact, I'd take Xanadu EASILY over The Anarchist, Carnies, Seven Cities of Gold, Halo Effect and Wish Them Well combined, and I like or love all of those songs.

 

Once again, you can't related it down to a math equation. Sometimes 10 minutes is better than 30 or 40 minutes, especially when you're talking about a Xanadu or La Villa. I would trade Xanadu for all of Presto & T4E combined. Same with La Villa.

 

A classic, classic song is worth much more than just its song length. Making it into a mathematical equation is just too cold and mental to me without taking into consideration the emotional impact that certain songs engender. A truly classic song is worth more than its weight in gold - it might take 5 or 10 merely very good or great tracks to equal its power.

 

QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 18 2012, 01:23 PM)
Well I think you are deluting yourself then.

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If you say so, math boy. wink.gif

 

 

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QUOTE (CygnusX-1Bk2 @ Jun 18 2012, 01:54 PM)
Yeah I want whatever drugs people are on who think this is better than Hemispheres, or even Signals.

Seriously?

It's a great album, but to say it's better than Hemispheres, Moving Pictures, Permanent Waves or Signals is just crazy talk. yes.gif fing.gif

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It's waaay early to be doing this, so all bets are off, but so far:

 

 

 

Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY better than:

 

Vapor Trails

Test For Echo

 

 

Nothing else is certain at this point. Therefore, I'm having CAKE for dinner!!!

 

 

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DEFINITELY BETTER THAN

Hold Your Fire

Rush

Signals

Power Windows

Snakes and Arrows

Roll the Bones

 

DEFINITELY NOT BETTER THAN

Presto

Grace Under Pressure

Moving Pictures

Caress of Steel

Hemispheres

 

MIGHT BE BETTER THAN

Fly By Night

2112

A Farewell to Kings

Permanent Waves

Counterparts

Test for Echo

Vapor Trails

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QUOTE (Mystic Slipperman @ Jun 18 2012, 04:07 PM)
It's waaay early to be doing this, so all bets are off, but so far:



Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY better than:

Vapor Trails
Test For Echo


Nothing else is certain at this point. Therefore, I'm having CAKE for dinner!!!


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QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 04:22 AM)
QUOTE (Ovningskora @ Jun 17 2012, 09:53 PM)
Clockwork Angels MIGHT be better than:
Vapor Trails
Fly By Night
Moving Pictures
Permanent Waves
Snakes & Arrows

I can tell you right now that Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY NOT better than Moving Pictures and Permanent Waves, so feel free to remove those from your list. wink.gif

It's not better than Permanent Waves, I've concluded.

 

CA vs MP is still in the works... You're probably right.

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QUOTE (CygnusX-1Bk2 @ Jun 18 2012, 04:54 PM)
Yeah I want whatever drugs people are on who think this is better than Hemispheres, or even Signals.

Seriously?

Seriously, I said MIGHT BE.

 

Right now I prefer it over both. smile.gif

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Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY better than:

Hitler

Mussolini

Test For Echo

Pol Pot

Fidel Castro

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

 

Clockwork Angels is definitely NOT better than:

Martin Luther King Jr.

Cute kittens

Obama

Pizza

Hemispheres (not the album, the bisections of planet Earth)

Sex

Cute kittens (so good they have to be listed twice)

Victory Golden Monkey beer

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