avenger Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 For now....I would prefer it to: Counterparts-for sure Test for echo-for sure Presto Roll the bones Rush-never ever listen to this Caress of steel-never listen to this either Feedback-blah For now.....I would group it in my must haves list: Clockwork angels Vapor trails Hold your fire(I totally agree with who said that 8 Songs on here are outstanding..two duds...tiashan and second nature) Power windows Moving pix Signals Permanent waves Farewell to kings Hemispheres The bubble: Snakes and arrows GUP Better than any on my good list depends on what style I am in the mood for.... Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Cocky Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 DEFINITELY better than: A Farewell To Kings Test For Echo Snakes & Arrows Presto 2112 Vapor Trails Hold Your Fire Fly By Night Caress of Steel Feedback Rush Roll The Bones NOT better than: Moving Pictures Permanent Waves MIGHT BE better than Signals Hemispheres Counterparts Grace Under Pressure Power Windows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 12:35 AM) QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 17 2012, 09:45 PM) QUOTE (DistantEarlyRushFan @ Jun 17 2012, 11:31 PM) QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 17 2012, 11:28 PM) Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY better than: Vapor Trails Test For Echo Roll The Bones Presto 2112 Hold Your Fire Rush Fly By Night Power Windows Counterparts Caress of Steel Snakes & Arrows Grace Under Pressure Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY NOT better than: Hemispheres Moving Pictures Permanent Waves Clockwork Angels MIGHT be better than: A Farewell To Kings Signals Just the fact that you are comparing a Whole Concept Album and a total of 12 songs against albums normally containing between 8 to 10 songs should give CA an edge over most. No way Clockwork Angels is better than Signals or AFTK Really? If I go into the market I will always buy the basket with 12 oranges over the basket with only 7 or 8. Now, that said the smaller basket might have Calidornia Oranges which means they are more tasty. The question here is, is that basket with fewer tastier oranges enough to keep you from the basket with more oranges that are slightly less tasty? Or is: A Farwell to Kings > = < Than Caravan & BU2B Xanadu > = < Than Clockwork Angels, The Anarchist & Carnies Closer to the Heart > = < Than Halo Effect Cinderella Man > = < Than Seven Cities of Gold Madrigal > = < Than The Wreckers Cygnus X-1 > = < Headlong Flight, BU2B2, Wish Them Well, The Garden See this paints a whole different piture! Regarding your orange example - The only way I don't choose the 7 or 8 tastier oranges over the 12 not as good tasting ones is if I'm watching my finances, and with Rush songs that's never an issue. I'd rather take less of a higher quality over more of a lesser quality any day of the week. I just don't think you can change it into a math equation. Are you saying that Caravan and BU2B combined are not equal or better than A Farewell to Kings or that Clockwork Angels, The Anarachist and Carnies combined are not equal or better to Xanadu Which is basically the same song twice plus a lead, or that Headlong Flight, BU2B2, Wish them Well and The Garden combined are not equal or better than Cygnus X-1? Is this what you are saying? Well I think you are deluting yourself then. Edited June 18, 2012 by losingit2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (Rush Cocky @ Jun 18 2012, 11:48 AM) MIGHT BE better than Signals Hemispheres http://msn.mess.be/data/thumbnails/39/Pop_Eyes.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CygnusX-1Bk2 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Yeah I want whatever drugs people are on who think this is better than Hemispheres, or even Signals. Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 18 2012, 03:23 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 12:35 AM) QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 17 2012, 09:45 PM) QUOTE (DistantEarlyRushFan @ Jun 17 2012, 11:31 PM) QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 17 2012, 11:28 PM) Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY better than: Vapor Trails Test For Echo Roll The Bones Presto 2112 Hold Your Fire Rush Fly By Night Power Windows Counterparts Caress of Steel Snakes & Arrows Grace Under Pressure Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY NOT better than: Hemispheres Moving Pictures Permanent Waves Clockwork Angels MIGHT be better than: A Farewell To Kings Signals Just the fact that you are comparing a Whole Concept Album and a total of 12 songs against albums normally containing between 8 to 10 songs should give CA an edge over most. No way Clockwork Angels is better than Signals or AFTK Really? If I go into the market I will always buy the basket with 12 oranges over the basket with only 7 or 8. Now, that said the smaller basket might have Calidornia Oranges which means they are more tasty. The question here is, is that basket with fewer tastier oranges enough to keep you from the basket with more oranges that are slightly less tasty? Or is: A Farwell to Kings > = < Than Caravan & BU2B Xanadu > = < Than Clockwork Angels, The Anarchist & Carnies Closer to the Heart > = < Than Halo Effect Cinderella Man > = < Than Seven Cities of Gold Madrigal > = < Than The Wreckers Cygnus X-1 > = < Headlong Flight, BU2B2, Wish Them Well, The Garden See this paints a whole different piture! Regarding your orange example - The only way I don't choose the 7 or 8 tastier oranges over the 12 not as good tasting ones is if I'm watching my finances, and with Rush songs that's never an issue. I'd rather take less of a higher quality over more of a lesser quality any day of the week. I just don't think you can change it into a math equation. Are you saying that Caravan and BU2B combined are not equal or better than A Farewell to Kings or that Clockwork Angels, The Anarachist and Carnies combined are not equal or better to Xanadu Which is basically the same song twice plus a lead, or that Headlong Flight, BU2B2, Wish them Well and The Garden combined are not equal or better than Cygnus X-1? Is this what you are saying? Well I think you are deluting yourself then. You don't put a 12 song 66 minute album against a 6 song 37 minute album and say these two CA songs beat this one AFTK song etc, it doesn't work like that. If they were still releasing albums every year Clockwork Angels would not exist, it would be two albums of around 35 minutes long. Clockwork Angels is basically two 70s era albums in one, which is what you get in this era of 4 and 5 year gaps between albums. And further think of this; if you compare the 5 years between S&A and CA to the 5 years between 2112 and Moving Pictures, who wins the battle then? Not that music is a competition or anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DistantEarlyRushFan Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (CygnusX-1Bk2 @ Jun 18 2012, 03:54 PM) Yeah I want whatever drugs people are on who think this is better than Hemispheres, or even Signals. Seriously? too many drugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianice Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (DistantEarlyRushFan @ Jun 18 2012, 04:15 PM) QUOTE (CygnusX-1Bk2 @ Jun 18 2012, 03:54 PM) Yeah I want whatever drugs people are on who think this is better than Hemispheres, or even Signals. Seriously? too many drugs bath salts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILSnwdog Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (DistantEarlyRushFan @ Jun 17 2012, 11:31 PM) QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 17 2012, 11:28 PM) Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY better than: Vapor Trails Test For Echo Roll The Bones Presto 2112 Hold Your Fire Rush Fly By Night Power Windows Counterparts Caress of Steel Snakes & Arrows Grace Under Pressure Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY NOT better than: Hemispheres Moving Pictures Permanent Waves Clockwork Angels MIGHT be better than: A Farewell To Kings Signals Just the fact that you are comparing a Whole Concept Album and a total of 12 songs against albums normally containing between 8 to 10 songs should give CA an edge over most. No way Clockwork Angels is better than Signals or AFTK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILSnwdog Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (canadianice @ Jun 18 2012, 04:16 PM) QUOTE (DistantEarlyRushFan @ Jun 18 2012, 04:15 PM) QUOTE (CygnusX-1Bk2 @ Jun 18 2012, 03:54 PM) Yeah I want whatever drugs people are on who think this is better than Hemispheres, or even Signals. Seriously? too many drugs bath salts Edited June 18, 2012 by ILSnwdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (canadianice @ Jun 18 2012, 04:16 PM) QUOTE (DistantEarlyRushFan @ Jun 18 2012, 04:15 PM) QUOTE (CygnusX-1Bk2 @ Jun 18 2012, 03:54 PM) Yeah I want whatever drugs people are on who think this is better than Hemispheres, or even Signals. Seriously? too many drugs bath salts No Bath salts are just evil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 18 2012, 01:23 PM)QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 12:35 AM) QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 17 2012, 09:45 PM) QUOTE (DistantEarlyRushFan @ Jun 17 2012, 11:31 PM) QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 17 2012, 11:28 PM) Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY better than: Vapor Trails Test For Echo Roll The Bones Presto 2112 Hold Your Fire Rush Fly By Night Power Windows Counterparts Caress of Steel Snakes & Arrows Grace Under Pressure Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY NOT better than: Hemispheres Moving Pictures Permanent Waves Clockwork Angels MIGHT be better than: A Farewell To Kings Signals Just the fact that you are comparing a Whole Concept Album and a total of 12 songs against albums normally containing between 8 to 10 songs should give CA an edge over most. No way Clockwork Angels is better than Signals or AFTK Really? If I go into the market I will always buy the basket with 12 oranges over the basket with only 7 or 8. Now, that said the smaller basket might have Calidornia Oranges which means they are more tasty. The question here is, is that basket with fewer tastier oranges enough to keep you from the basket with more oranges that are slightly less tasty? Or is: A Farwell to Kings > = < Than Caravan & BU2B Xanadu > = < Than Clockwork Angels, The Anarchist & Carnies Closer to the Heart > = < Than Halo Effect Cinderella Man > = < Than Seven Cities of Gold Madrigal > = < Than The Wreckers Cygnus X-1 > = < Headlong Flight, BU2B2, Wish Them Well, The Garden See this paints a whole different piture! Regarding your orange example - The only way I don't choose the 7 or 8 tastier oranges over the 12 not as good tasting ones is if I'm watching my finances, and with Rush songs that's never an issue. I'd rather take less of a higher quality over more of a lesser quality any day of the week. I just don't think you can change it into a math equation. Are you saying that Caravan and BU2B combined are not equal or better than A Farewell to Kings I am saying EXACTLY that. Caravan and BU2B are great songs, but A Farewell To Kings is an absolute stone cold killer classic. If I had to choose, Caravan and BU2B combined would lose. QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 18 2012, 01:23 PM)or that Clockwork Angels, The Anarachist and Carnies combined are not equal or better to Xanadu Which is basically the same song twice plus a lead I'd hate to lose that title track, but those three combined would lose to Xanadu. In fact, I'd take Xanadu EASILY over The Anarchist, Carnies, Seven Cities of Gold, Halo Effect and Wish Them Well combined, and I like or love all of those songs. Once again, you can't related it down to a math equation. Sometimes 10 minutes is better than 30 or 40 minutes, especially when you're talking about a Xanadu or La Villa. I would trade Xanadu for all of Presto & T4E combined. Same with La Villa. A classic, classic song is worth much more than just its song length. Making it into a mathematical equation is just too cold and mental to me without taking into consideration the emotional impact that certain songs engender. A truly classic song is worth more than its weight in gold - it might take 5 or 10 merely very good or great tracks to equal its power. QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 18 2012, 01:23 PM)Well I think you are deluting yourself then. If you say so, math boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (CygnusX-1Bk2 @ Jun 18 2012, 01:54 PM) Yeah I want whatever drugs people are on who think this is better than Hemispheres, or even Signals. Seriously? It's a great album, but to say it's better than Hemispheres, Moving Pictures, Permanent Waves or Signals is just crazy talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mystic Slipperman Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 It's waaay early to be doing this, so all bets are off, but so far: Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY better than: Vapor Trails Test For Echo Nothing else is certain at this point. Therefore, I'm having CAKE for dinner!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tommy Sawyer Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) Edited June 18, 2012 by Tommy Sawyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sawyer Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 DEFINITELY BETTER THAN Hold Your Fire Rush Signals Power Windows Snakes and Arrows Roll the Bones DEFINITELY NOT BETTER THAN Presto Grace Under Pressure Moving Pictures Caress of Steel Hemispheres MIGHT BE BETTER THAN Fly By Night 2112 A Farewell to Kings Permanent Waves Counterparts Test for Echo Vapor Trails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) Edited June 18, 2012 by rushgoober Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. Not Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (Mystic Slipperman @ Jun 18 2012, 04:07 PM) It's waaay early to be doing this, so all bets are off, but so far: Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY better than: Vapor Trails Test For Echo Nothing else is certain at this point. Therefore, I'm having CAKE for dinner!!! I like your style, Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 04:22 AM) QUOTE (Ovningskora @ Jun 17 2012, 09:53 PM) Clockwork Angels MIGHT be better than: Vapor Trails Fly By Night Moving Pictures Permanent Waves Snakes & Arrows I can tell you right now that Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY NOT better than Moving Pictures and Permanent Waves, so feel free to remove those from your list. It's not better than Permanent Waves, I've concluded. CA vs MP is still in the works... You're probably right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Cocky Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (CygnusX-1Bk2 @ Jun 18 2012, 04:54 PM) Yeah I want whatever drugs people are on who think this is better than Hemispheres, or even Signals. Seriously? Seriously, I said MIGHT BE. Right now I prefer it over both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jomboni Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Clockwork Angels is DEFINITELY better than: Hitler Mussolini Test For Echo Pol Pot Fidel Castro Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Clockwork Angels is definitely NOT better than: Martin Luther King Jr. Cute kittens Obama Pizza Hemispheres (not the album, the bisections of planet Earth) Sex Cute kittens (so good they have to be listed twice) Victory Golden Monkey beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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