blackhawkrush Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 QUOTE (invisibleairwaves @ Aug 29 2012, 02:26 PM) Details on new NHL proposal Bringing the salary cap down to $58M without a rollback? I'd hate to be the GM of a cap ceiling team who has to sort out that mess. As someone pointed out on Twitter, if the owners knew this was coming, it explains why there's so many good UFAs still unsigned... The lower cap should make the owners of lesser teams happy and the players will have to bite the bullet. Everyone else has to, in our current economy. Drop the puck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisibleairwaves Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 Nice to know the Oilers aren't worried about potential CBA changes. 6x$6M contract extension for Jordan Eberle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkrush Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 QUOTE (invisibleairwaves @ Aug 30 2012, 03:55 PM) Nice to know the Oilers aren't worried about potential CBA changes. 6x$6M contract extension for Jordan Eberle. How are they going to pay those young hotshots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisibleairwaves Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 QUOTE (blackhawkrush @ Aug 30 2012, 02:17 PM) QUOTE (invisibleairwaves @ Aug 30 2012, 03:55 PM) Nice to know the Oilers aren't worried about potential CBA changes. 6x$6M contract extension for Jordan Eberle. How are they going to pay those young hotshots? Who knows. $6M for Eberle is nuts. If RNH, Yakupov, and Schultz start to reach their potential before their ELCs end, there's no way they can keep their core together and still put a decent team around them. Especially if the cap goes down (which is looking more and more like a certainty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisibleairwaves Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 QUOTE Renaud P Lavoie @RenLavoieRDS Don Fehr: "at this point the talks are off." Also Gary Bettman called revenue sharing a "distraction", so I guess that answers the question of whether the league is trying to help small-market teams become profitable, or just maximize profit for the big ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RushCanuck Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Hey, if there is a lockout, the NHL teenagers may have to return to junior hockey. That may make it more interesting... Go Knights Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkrush Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 QUOTE (invisibleairwaves @ Aug 31 2012, 04:37 PM) QUOTE Renaud P Lavoie @RenLavoieRDS Don Fehr: "at this point the talks are off." Also Gary Bettman called revenue sharing a "distraction", so I guess that answers the question of whether the league is trying to help small-market teams become profitable, or just maximize profit for the big ones. You'd think Don Fart and Gary Buttman would find common language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReflectedLight Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 if there is no hockey season i hope there will be some college hockey or ahl shown. i'm not a big football fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkrush Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 QUOTE (ReflectedLight @ Sep 2 2012, 05:19 PM) if there is no hockey season i hope there will be some college hockey or ahl shown. i'm not a big football fan. It'll be fine. Did you see Zetterberg sweating like a pig at the press conference? He's working hard on a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReflectedLight Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 QUOTE (blackhawkrush @ Sep 2 2012, 06:04 PM) QUOTE (ReflectedLight @ Sep 2 2012, 05:19 PM) if there is no hockey season i hope there will be some college hockey or ahl shown. i'm not a big football fan. It'll be fine. Did you see Zetterberg sweating like a pig at the press conference? He's working hard on a deal. lets hope so otherwise it will be a long winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerxster Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 QUOTE (blackhawkrush @ Aug 31 2012, 09:31 PM)QUOTE (invisibleairwaves @ Aug 31 2012, 04:37 PM) QUOTE Renaud P Lavoie @RenLavoieRDS Don Fehr: "at this point the talks are off." Also Gary Bettman called revenue sharing a "distraction", so I guess that answers the question of whether the league is trying to help small-market teams become profitable, or just maximize profit for the big ones. You'd think Don Fart and Gary Buttman would find common language. At least it isn't as bad as the NFL and refs, but this is ridiculous. They better git it done or f*ckin hell I'll be pissed. Waiting for the day Buttman is out. Been waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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blackhawkrush Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I got my "The Hockey News" pre-season mag today, just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReflectedLight Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 this is changing the subject but just out of curiosity, any news on what will happen with the coyotes? stay or go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisibleairwaves Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 QUOTE (ReflectedLight @ Sep 3 2012, 03:17 PM) this is changing the subject but just out of curiosity, any news on what will happen with the coyotes? stay or go? Still seems to be up in the air. Greg Jamison was going to buy the team and keep them in Phoenix, but it's been a month or two and he still hasn't got the financing worked out yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisibleairwaves Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 QUOTE (Lerxster @ Sep 2 2012, 07:20 PM) http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-elliot...,6653644.column Really sums everything up well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkrush Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 QUOTE (invisibleairwaves @ Sep 3 2012, 10:03 PM) QUOTE (Lerxster @ Sep 2 2012, 07:20 PM) http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-elliot...,6653644.column Really sums everything up well. "The business is booming?" I'm not surprised The L.A. Times would side with the union. And to mention the poor, crazy about hockey Minnesota takes the cake. The NHL wants to lower the cap and these lesser owners can't cut the mustard? Give me a break. P.S. 57%-43% to 46%-54%? Where's my handkerchief? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisibleairwaves Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 QUOTE (blackhawkrush @ Sep 3 2012, 10:10 PM) QUOTE (invisibleairwaves @ Sep 3 2012, 10:03 PM) QUOTE (Lerxster @ Sep 2 2012, 07:20 PM) http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-elliot...,6653644.column Really sums everything up well. "The business is booming?" I'm not surprised The L.A. Times would side with the union. And to mention the poor, crazy about hockey Minnesota takes the cake. The NHL wants to lower the cap and these lesser owners can't cut the mustard? Give me a break. P.S. 57%-43% to 46%-54%? Where's my handkerchief? "Business is booming" is a totally fair statement if we're talking about the league as a whole...revenues have soared under the current CBA. And yeah, 46% of the pie is still a lot of money, but I still think it's shitty for owners to give a contract to players for x amount of money, and then turn around and say "we're going to lock out the whole league unless you agree to take less money than we promised you". It's one thing to do that when the league is struggling financially (as it was in 2004), but now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkrush Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 QUOTE (invisibleairwaves @ Sep 4 2012, 01:16 AM) QUOTE (blackhawkrush @ Sep 3 2012, 10:10 PM) QUOTE (invisibleairwaves @ Sep 3 2012, 10:03 PM) QUOTE (Lerxster @ Sep 2 2012, 07:20 PM) http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-elliot...,6653644.column Really sums everything up well. "The business is booming?" I'm not surprised The L.A. Times would side with the union. And to mention the poor, crazy about hockey Minnesota takes the cake. The NHL wants to lower the cap and these lesser owners can't cut the mustard? Give me a break. P.S. 57%-43% to 46%-54%? Where's my handkerchief? "Business is booming" is a totally fair statement if we're talking about the league as a whole...revenues have soared under the current CBA. And yeah, 46% of the pie is still a lot of money, but I still think it's shitty for owners to give a contract to players for x amount of money, and then turn around and say "we're going to lock out the whole league unless you agree to take less money than we promised you". It's one thing to do that when the league is struggling financially (as it was in 2004), but now? If the contracts are signed, how can they ask the players in question to play for less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisibleairwaves Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 QUOTE (blackhawkrush @ Sep 3 2012, 11:35 PM) QUOTE (invisibleairwaves @ Sep 4 2012, 01:16 AM) QUOTE (blackhawkrush @ Sep 3 2012, 10:10 PM) QUOTE (invisibleairwaves @ Sep 3 2012, 10:03 PM) QUOTE (Lerxster @ Sep 2 2012, 07:20 PM) http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-elliot...,6653644.column Really sums everything up well. "The business is booming?" I'm not surprised The L.A. Times would side with the union. And to mention the poor, crazy about hockey Minnesota takes the cake. The NHL wants to lower the cap and these lesser owners can't cut the mustard? Give me a break. P.S. 57%-43% to 46%-54%? Where's my handkerchief? "Business is booming" is a totally fair statement if we're talking about the league as a whole...revenues have soared under the current CBA. And yeah, 46% of the pie is still a lot of money, but I still think it's shitty for owners to give a contract to players for x amount of money, and then turn around and say "we're going to lock out the whole league unless you agree to take less money than we promised you". It's one thing to do that when the league is struggling financially (as it was in 2004), but now? If the contracts are signed, how can they ask the players in question to play for less? By getting the PA to agree to a league-wide salary rollback. They got a 24% rollback after the last lockout, and the league wants something similar this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkrush Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 QUOTE (invisibleairwaves @ Sep 4 2012, 02:18 AM) QUOTE (blackhawkrush @ Sep 3 2012, 11:35 PM) QUOTE (invisibleairwaves @ Sep 4 2012, 01:16 AM) QUOTE (blackhawkrush @ Sep 3 2012, 10:10 PM) QUOTE (invisibleairwaves @ Sep 3 2012, 10:03 PM) QUOTE (Lerxster @ Sep 2 2012, 07:20 PM) http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-elliot...,6653644.column Really sums everything up well. "The business is booming?" I'm not surprised The L.A. Times would side with the union. And to mention the poor, crazy about hockey Minnesota takes the cake. The NHL wants to lower the cap and these lesser owners can't cut the mustard? Give me a break. P.S. 57%-43% to 46%-54%? Where's my handkerchief? "Business is booming" is a totally fair statement if we're talking about the league as a whole...revenues have soared under the current CBA. And yeah, 46% of the pie is still a lot of money, but I still think it's shitty for owners to give a contract to players for x amount of money, and then turn around and say "we're going to lock out the whole league unless you agree to take less money than we promised you". It's one thing to do that when the league is struggling financially (as it was in 2004), but now? If the contracts are signed, how can they ask the players in question to play for less? By getting the PA to agree to a league-wide salary rollback. They got a 24% rollback after the last lockout, and the league wants something similar this time. I have not heard of a "rollback" in any articles I've read but if we can take money away from Keith, I'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisibleairwaves Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 QUOTE (blackhawkrush @ Sep 4 2012, 12:26 AM) QUOTE (invisibleairwaves @ Sep 4 2012, 02:18 AM) QUOTE (blackhawkrush @ Sep 3 2012, 11:35 PM) QUOTE (invisibleairwaves @ Sep 4 2012, 01:16 AM) QUOTE (blackhawkrush @ Sep 3 2012, 10:10 PM) QUOTE (invisibleairwaves @ Sep 3 2012, 10:03 PM) QUOTE (Lerxster @ Sep 2 2012, 07:20 PM) http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-elliot...,6653644.column Really sums everything up well. "The business is booming?" I'm not surprised The L.A. Times would side with the union. And to mention the poor, crazy about hockey Minnesota takes the cake. The NHL wants to lower the cap and these lesser owners can't cut the mustard? Give me a break. P.S. 57%-43% to 46%-54%? Where's my handkerchief? "Business is booming" is a totally fair statement if we're talking about the league as a whole...revenues have soared under the current CBA. And yeah, 46% of the pie is still a lot of money, but I still think it's shitty for owners to give a contract to players for x amount of money, and then turn around and say "we're going to lock out the whole league unless you agree to take less money than we promised you". It's one thing to do that when the league is struggling financially (as it was in 2004), but now? If the contracts are signed, how can they ask the players in question to play for less? By getting the PA to agree to a league-wide salary rollback. They got a 24% rollback after the last lockout, and the league wants something similar this time. I have not heard of a "rollback" in any articles I've read but if we can take money away from Keith, I'm all for it. Fair enough Of course, it's not just about the Keiths, Crosbys, and Kovalchuks of the league...the 4th-line grinders making league minimum would rightly be pissed off about losing almost a quarter of their salary. Sure, they'd still be making great money compared to most of us, and they shouldn't be crying poor- but the same goes for the likes of Ed Snider, Jeremy Jacobs, and Rocky Wirtz. And let's not forget that pro athletes have much shorter careers than most people do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisibleairwaves Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 Today's somewhat odd news: Gabriel Landeskog gets Avs captaincy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Yesterday I took my son to meet Shawn Thornton at a card show nearby. My son told him he likes "the way [Thornton] beats people up." Thornton laughed and said "Thanks, I try my best." He also said to me he's a little nervous about the season being lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisibleairwaves Posted September 11, 2012 Author Share Posted September 11, 2012 Hawks sign Michal Rozsival. FFFFFUUUUU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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