av450 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 QUOTE (likeclockwork @ May 7 2012, 09:52 PM) QUOTE (presto123 @ May 7 2012, 09:36 PM) QUOTE (cygnify @ May 7 2012, 07:51 PM) QUOTE (presto123 @ May 7 2012, 04:51 PM) QUOTE (Tony R @ May 3 2012, 05:10 PM) QUOTE (presto123 @ May 3 2012, 11:03 PM) QUOTE (cygnify @ May 3 2012, 04:58 PM) The Garden. I don't believe your facts are true. Likeclockwork said The Garden sounds nothing like what you describe and I really do think he's legit. He knew the lyrics to Headlong Flight way before anybody on here had even heard the song. He described The Garden as being a beautiful, melodic song with a theatrical feel. Cygnify would not lie. Don't mistake my banter with him for disbelief. I believe he is telling the truth. Didn't see anything in the track by track review today about a long bluesy song No, but there was one word in the description of "The Garden" that makes me believe that that's the one my friend heard - "Shuffle" "Neil lays down a simple shuffle." Judging from your avatar (very similar kit to mine as a matter of fact - down to the same color!) if you are a drummer, you know what a shuffle feels like. Could certainly be a "bluesy" feel. The fact that the review also mentions a significant solo from Alex also supports what my bud heard. My friend thought that particular one was the last song on the disc. He heard it one time, while in the studio with Vertical Horizon and, um, someone who would know, and that was his impression. Can't wait to hear this album!! OK....I'll give you a break. I missed that shuffle part when reading it. Probably not an all out blues song but maybe enough of a shuffle for your friend to describe it that way. We'll find out soon enough. There is definitely nothing at all bluesy about The Garden. Someone previously mentioned Available Light as a comparison. I guess that's not a horrible place to start and from there I'd say The Garden is Available Light meets Broadway. But there's really no way to accurately describe it in the context of Rush's catalog. It simply doesn't sound like anything Rush has ever done before. It does sound like it could fit as a part of a Broadway show - perhaps its the strings and the piano. But overally it's just a very pretty and really good melodic song with hooks and emotion. "The measure of a life is a measure of love and respect / so hard to earn, so easily burned..." As far as bluesy, perhaps he's referring to Clockwork Angels (the song)? There's a short section toward the end that sounds a bit bluesy with megaphone-like vocals in the background. The lyrics sound like they were taking from RENT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony R Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 QUOTE (av450 @ May 8 2012, 10:10 PM) QUOTE (likeclockwork @ May 7 2012, 09:52 PM) QUOTE (presto123 @ May 7 2012, 09:36 PM) QUOTE (cygnify @ May 7 2012, 07:51 PM) QUOTE (presto123 @ May 7 2012, 04:51 PM) QUOTE (Tony R @ May 3 2012, 05:10 PM) QUOTE (presto123 @ May 3 2012, 11:03 PM) QUOTE (cygnify @ May 3 2012, 04:58 PM) The Garden. I don't believe your facts are true. Likeclockwork said The Garden sounds nothing like what you describe and I really do think he's legit. He knew the lyrics to Headlong Flight way before anybody on here had even heard the song. He described The Garden as being a beautiful, melodic song with a theatrical feel. Cygnify would not lie. Don't mistake my banter with him for disbelief. I believe he is telling the truth. Didn't see anything in the track by track review today about a long bluesy song No, but there was one word in the description of "The Garden" that makes me believe that that's the one my friend heard - "Shuffle" "Neil lays down a simple shuffle." Judging from your avatar (very similar kit to mine as a matter of fact - down to the same color!) if you are a drummer, you know what a shuffle feels like. Could certainly be a "bluesy" feel. The fact that the review also mentions a significant solo from Alex also supports what my bud heard. My friend thought that particular one was the last song on the disc. He heard it one time, while in the studio with Vertical Horizon and, um, someone who would know, and that was his impression. Can't wait to hear this album!! OK....I'll give you a break. I missed that shuffle part when reading it. Probably not an all out blues song but maybe enough of a shuffle for your friend to describe it that way. We'll find out soon enough. There is definitely nothing at all bluesy about The Garden. Someone previously mentioned Available Light as a comparison. I guess that's not a horrible place to start and from there I'd say The Garden is Available Light meets Broadway. But there's really no way to accurately describe it in the context of Rush's catalog. It simply doesn't sound like anything Rush has ever done before. It does sound like it could fit as a part of a Broadway show - perhaps its the strings and the piano. But overally it's just a very pretty and really good melodic song with hooks and emotion. "The measure of a life is a measure of love and respect / so hard to earn, so easily burned..." As far as bluesy, perhaps he's referring to Clockwork Angels (the song)? There's a short section toward the end that sounds a bit bluesy with megaphone-like vocals in the background. The lyrics sound like they were taking from RENT. From Nick R: QUOTE The whole middle section to Clockwork Angels, that bluesy bar band section, that definitely happened in the mix Game, set and match to my pal Cygnify, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cygnify Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 QUOTE (Tony R @ May 8 2012, 05:03 PM) QUOTE (av450 @ May 8 2012, 10:10 PM) QUOTE (likeclockwork @ May 7 2012, 09:52 PM) QUOTE (presto123 @ May 7 2012, 09:36 PM) QUOTE (cygnify @ May 7 2012, 07:51 PM) QUOTE (presto123 @ May 7 2012, 04:51 PM) QUOTE (Tony R @ May 3 2012, 05:10 PM) QUOTE (presto123 @ May 3 2012, 11:03 PM) QUOTE (cygnify @ May 3 2012, 04:58 PM) The Garden. I don't believe your facts are true. Likeclockwork said The Garden sounds nothing like what you describe and I really do think he's legit. He knew the lyrics to Headlong Flight way before anybody on here had even heard the song. He described The Garden as being a beautiful, melodic song with a theatrical feel. Cygnify would not lie. Don't mistake my banter with him for disbelief. I believe he is telling the truth. Didn't see anything in the track by track review today about a long bluesy song No, but there was one word in the description of "The Garden" that makes me believe that that's the one my friend heard - "Shuffle" "Neil lays down a simple shuffle." Judging from your avatar (very similar kit to mine as a matter of fact - down to the same color!) if you are a drummer, you know what a shuffle feels like. Could certainly be a "bluesy" feel. The fact that the review also mentions a significant solo from Alex also supports what my bud heard. My friend thought that particular one was the last song on the disc. He heard it one time, while in the studio with Vertical Horizon and, um, someone who would know, and that was his impression. Can't wait to hear this album!! OK....I'll give you a break. I missed that shuffle part when reading it. Probably not an all out blues song but maybe enough of a shuffle for your friend to describe it that way. We'll find out soon enough. There is definitely nothing at all bluesy about The Garden. Someone previously mentioned Available Light as a comparison. I guess that's not a horrible place to start and from there I'd say The Garden is Available Light meets Broadway. But there's really no way to accurately describe it in the context of Rush's catalog. It simply doesn't sound like anything Rush has ever done before. It does sound like it could fit as a part of a Broadway show - perhaps its the strings and the piano. But overally it's just a very pretty and really good melodic song with hooks and emotion. "The measure of a life is a measure of love and respect / so hard to earn, so easily burned..." As far as bluesy, perhaps he's referring to Clockwork Angels (the song)? There's a short section toward the end that sounds a bit bluesy with megaphone-like vocals in the background. The lyrics sound like they were taking from RENT. From Nick R: QUOTE The whole middle section to Clockwork Angels, that bluesy bar band section, that definitely happened in the mix Game, set and match to my pal Cygnify, I think. You can send that dollar now T1 (actually, I probably owe you much more for unknowingly introducing me to some great prog!) So, yeah, I guess that's one of the songs my bud heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3strukt Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I liken the "wah guitar solo" to Anthem, more than 2112. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeclockwork Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) Wish Them Well is not heavy at all and I wouldn't describe The Anarchist as heavy - more mid-tempo. Much of Clockwork Angels is fairly melodic as well. Edited May 8, 2012 by likeclockwork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdog2112 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (likeclockwork @ May 8 2012, 04:55 PM) Wish Them Well is not heavy at all and I wouldn't describe The Anarchist as heavy - more mid-tempo. Much of Clockwork Angels is fairly melodic as well. Thanks for all your input! Edited May 8, 2012 by snowdog2112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 QUOTE (likeclockwork @ May 8 2012, 05:55 PM) Wish Them Well is not heavy at all and I wouldn't describe The Anarchist as heavy - more mid-tempo. Much of Clockwork Angels is fairly melodic as well. Is Seven Cities heavy or melodic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdog2112 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) Edited May 8, 2012 by snowdog2112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchorman Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 QUOTE (D3strukt @ May 8 2012, 05:24 PM) I liken the "wah guitar solo" to Anthem, more than 2112. I liken the "wah guitar solo" to Anthem too. One of my faves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugen Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 i am starting to feel like the character on Hitchcock's movie Vertigo with all those multiple quoting boxes. It gives me a headache. We should not allow more than 2 pages of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilb1972 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) QUOTE I wonder if it'll be anything like the Sphere part of Hempisheres? I wondered the exact same thing. And if so... that would make me smile! I appreciate all the insight from our fellow insiders! I have always felt that a good dynamic, diverse album was somewhere inside of Rush and it sounds like they have one here. I'm very curious to hear this thing now ... we have had so many opinions and snippets and reviews from those who have heard the thing, its hard to remember who said which about what. We need someone to gather up what we know thus far, track by track, and lets see how they compare. Not me. I'm too lazy for that! C'mon release date ... Edited May 9, 2012 by wilb1972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gedneil Alpeart Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 Much thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wilb1972 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I just did a lot of copying and pasting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 QUOTE (wilb1972 @ May 10 2012, 12:27 PM) I just did a lot of copying and pasting! Did anybody see this tidbit? There are starting to be enough reviews maybe I'm getting them mixed up. Copied from alexmai(THANKS) post at RIAB: From Dave Ling (Classic Rock) website: "During the afternoon I attended the first of three media playbacks for Rush's hotly anticipated new album. And you know what? 'Clockwork Angels' might just be the Canadian band's best and hardest-rocking record since the celebrated 'Moving Pictures', performed in its entirety on their last tour but recorded as long ago as 1981. I particularly liked a song called 'The Anarchist' which begins with the type of brutal guitar motif not heard since 'Working Man' back in the mid-'70s. 'Clockwork...' is not consistently heavy, mind, though to these ears it's their most consistent set of choons in aeons." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionDetector Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 QUOTE (presto123 @ May 10 2012, 01:41 PM) QUOTE (wilb1972 @ May 10 2012, 12:27 PM) I just did a lot of copying and pasting! Did anybody see this tidbit? There are starting to be enough reviews maybe I'm getting them mixed up. Copied from alexmai(THANKS) post at RIAB: From Dave Ling (Classic Rock) website: "During the afternoon I attended the first of three media playbacks for Rush's hotly anticipated new album. And you know what? 'Clockwork Angels' might just be the Canadian band's best and hardest-rocking record since the celebrated 'Moving Pictures', performed in its entirety on their last tour but recorded as long ago as 1981. I particularly liked a song called 'The Anarchist' which begins with the type of brutal guitar motif not heard since 'Working Man' back in the mid-'70s. 'Clockwork...' is not consistently heavy, mind, though to these ears it's their most consistent set of choons in aeons." Sounds great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ May 10 2012, 12:47 PM) QUOTE (presto123 @ May 10 2012, 01:41 PM) QUOTE (wilb1972 @ May 10 2012, 12:27 PM) I just did a lot of copying and pasting! Did anybody see this tidbit? There are starting to be enough reviews maybe I'm getting them mixed up. Copied from alexmai(THANKS) post at RIAB: From Dave Ling (Classic Rock) website: "During the afternoon I attended the first of three media playbacks for Rush's hotly anticipated new album. And you know what? 'Clockwork Angels' might just be the Canadian band's best and hardest-rocking record since the celebrated 'Moving Pictures', performed in its entirety on their last tour but recorded as long ago as 1981. I particularly liked a song called 'The Anarchist' which begins with the type of brutal guitar motif not heard since 'Working Man' back in the mid-'70s. 'Clockwork...' is not consistently heavy, mind, though to these ears it's their most consistent set of choons in aeons." Sounds great! Dave Ling said he gave it a 9/10 review in Metal Hammer magazine. Even though it's a metal magazine they must still appreciate the softer melodic tunes as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdog2112 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) Edited May 10, 2012 by snowdog2112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexmai Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 QUOTE (presto123 @ May 10 2012, 12:41 PM) QUOTE (wilb1972 @ May 10 2012, 12:27 PM) I just did a lot of copying and pasting! Did anybody see this tidbit? There are starting to be enough reviews maybe I'm getting them mixed up. Copied from alexmai(THANKS) post at RIAB: From Dave Ling (Classic Rock) website: "During the afternoon I attended the first of three media playbacks for Rush's hotly anticipated new album. And you know what? 'Clockwork Angels' might just be the Canadian band's best and hardest-rocking record since the celebrated 'Moving Pictures', performed in its entirety on their last tour but recorded as long ago as 1981. I particularly liked a song called 'The Anarchist' which begins with the type of brutal guitar motif not heard since 'Working Man' back in the mid-'70s. 'Clockwork...' is not consistently heavy, mind, though to these ears it's their most consistent set of choons in aeons." I found it on an italian forum (Truemetal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarkus406 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I hate how people say stuff like "although it's not consistently heavy..." like it's a bad thing or something.... I don't give a damn if it's heavy or not. I would actually not like it as much if it were all pedal-to-the-metal from start to finish. That would make the album as a whole sound like utter shit and become boring after 2 songs. I'm so glad Rush still writes softer music even though so many people expect nonstop metal all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionDetector Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 QUOTE (Tarkus406 @ May 10 2012, 05:15 PM) I hate how people say stuff like "although it's not consistently heavy..." like it's a bad thing or something.... I don't give a damn if it's heavy or not. I would actually not like it as much if it were all pedal-to-the-metal from start to finish. That would make the album as a whole sound like utter shit and become boring after 2 songs. I'm so glad Rush still writes softer music even though so many people expect nonstop metal all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gedneil Alpeart Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 QUOTE (Tarkus406 @ May 10 2012, 04:15 PM) I hate how people say stuff like "although it's not consistently heavy..." like it's a bad thing or something.... I don't give a damn if it's heavy or not. I would actually not like it as much if it were all pedal-to-the-metal from start to finish. That would make the album as a whole sound like utter shit and become boring after 2 songs. I'm so glad Rush still writes softer music even though so many people expect nonstop metal all the time. It's one of the main reasons why I like them so much....the sheer diversity and range of their music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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presto123 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 QUOTE (Tarkus406 @ May 10 2012, 04:15 PM) I hate how people say stuff like "although it's not consistently heavy..." like it's a bad thing or something.... I don't give a damn if it's heavy or not. I would actually not like it as much if it were all pedal-to-the-metal from start to finish. That would make the album as a whole sound like utter shit and become boring after 2 songs. I'm so glad Rush still writes softer music even though so many people expect nonstop metal all the time. I think he threw that in there because he is reviewing it for Metal Hammer magazine so he knows most of the people reading it will be metal heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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