Gilbertk Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (Rush Cocky @ Apr 12 2012, 09:25 AM) QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Apr 12 2012, 10:15 AM) Wasn't one cut supposed to be pushing double digits? I thought I read that somewhere. I figured it out..... The 10-minute epic is the secret hidden 13th track at the end of the album. Thus the album is now between 76 and 77 minutes. And everyone's happy. Nah.. It will only be included on the Japanese version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (trenken @ Apr 12 2012, 10:08 AM) No real long songs like I expected. Really? If you were expecting a 20-minute "Hemispheres" or "2112"-like epic, then yeah, you're going to be disappointed. But there was no indication that there would be such an epic in this album, or even anything over 10:00. 3. Clockwork Angels (7:31) 4. The Anarchist (6:52) 7. Seven Cities Of Gold (6:32) 9. Headlong Flight (7:20) 12. The Garden (6:59) Those five songs are pretty beefy. It's been a long time since we've had five songs of that length on one album. That's a good thing, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Quixote Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (Workaholic Man @ Apr 12 2012, 09:19 AM) They might be stealing a page from Tool....... Putting in short periods of strange sounds in between songs...... Just to add to the mystique...... Alex has been on record more than a few times that he's a big fan of Tool so you might be on to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (Godeater2112 @ Apr 12 2012, 06:59 AM) Cool! This puts to rest any crazy conjecture some of us had yesterday that this might be a double album! Make no mistake, even though it will all be on one disc, this, like the two albums that went before it, IS A DOUBLE ALBUM. Considering albums were 30-40 minutes in the olden days, a 65 minute plus album is a double album the way I see it. This of course is great if you love the album, but usually means there will be filler. Making a great, completely consistent double album was almost impossible to do in the 70's. Just because making a really long album is expected these days doesn't change that. Anyway, I'm still hopeful for 2 or 3 great songs. If the Rush Gods smile upon me greatly, maybe we'll get even more than that. Just hurry up and release the damn thing, already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangster of Goats Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) Going by the end of the 30-sec teaser for Headlong Flight (which sounds like it could be the end of the tune tacked on), it sounds like it would segue nicely into an instrumental reprise of BU2B. Edited April 12, 2012 by Bangster of Goats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (Good,bad,andrush @ Apr 12 2012, 07:29 AM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Apr 12 2012, 09:27 AM) QUOTE (Gilbertk @ Apr 12 2012, 09:06 AM) Oh and if the CA Suite is still just 5 songs I suppose that puts the CA Suite at 30:05. If it all flows together then it could very much be like the old extended tracks. If the CA suite is just 5 songs why are there 7 songs between the two BU2B2s? It has to be a concept album, there is no way it's not. Unless they pulled a Tool and want us to rearrange the tracks somehow. Based on what we know of the concept and now the track list, I'd say there's a more than fair shot it's one concept all the way through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 1. Caravan(5:40)........................We know 2. BU2B(5:10).............................We Know 3. Clockwork Angels(7:31)........Epic (Many Changes No Doubt) 4. The Anarchist(6:52)..............Heavy like Metal (like the Necromancer) 5. Carnies(4:52)........................Still Unsure (Strange break in 3/4 time) 6. Halo Effect(3:14)...................Instrumental 7. Seven Cities Of Gold(6:32)....Slower Song With Strings 8. The Wreckers(5:01)..............Very Heavy and Metal like a Wrecking Ball 9. Headlong Flight(7:20)...........Heavy and Epic 10. BU2B2(1:28)........................Acoustic instrumental 11. Wish Them Well(5:25).........Slower and Majestic like end of Mission 12. The Garden(6:59)................like Lake Side Park but with much Strings Regardless its going to be Epic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Apr 12 2012, 10:44 AM) QUOTE (Good @ bad,andrush,Apr 12 2012, 07:29 AM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Apr 12 2012, 09:27 AM) QUOTE (Gilbertk @ Apr 12 2012, 09:06 AM) Oh and if the CA Suite is still just 5 songs I suppose that puts the CA Suite at 30:05. If it all flows together then it could very much be like the old extended tracks. If the CA suite is just 5 songs why are there 7 songs between the two BU2B2s? It has to be a concept album, there is no way it's not. Unless they pulled a Tool and want us to rearrange the tracks somehow. Based on what we know of the concept and now the track list, I'd say there's a more than fair shot it's one concept all the way through. The Only way I can see the Suite being shorter that the entire album would be if it ended at Seven cities of Gold. However the rest of the titles fall right in line with the concept. I feel its an entire concept album! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natural.Science Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 The album is exactly 66:04 minutes long. That means this is the second longest album Rush ever made! After Vapor Trails (which is 1 minute longer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) Edited April 12, 2012 by losingit2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gedneil Alpeart Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (1-0-0-1-0-0-1 @ Apr 12 2012, 10:09 AM) QUOTE (trenken @ Apr 12 2012, 10:08 AM) No real long songs like I expected. Really? If you were expecting a 20-minute "Hemispheres" or "2112"-like epic, then yeah, you're going to be disappointed. But there was no indication that there would be such an epic in this album, or even anything over 10:00. 3. Clockwork Angels (7:31) 4. The Anarchist (6:52) 7. Seven Cities Of Gold (6:32) 9. Headlong Flight (7:20) 12. The Garden (6:59) Those five songs are pretty beefy. It's been a long time since we've had five songs of that length on one album. That's a good thing, yes? I agree with 1001001! Keep your expectations reasonable. I'm thrilled about the length of these tracks, which will hopefully translate to killer music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (Natural.Science @ Apr 12 2012, 11:04 AM) The album is exactly 66:04 minutes long. That means this is the second longest album Rush ever made! After Vapor Trails (which is 1 minute longer). Yeah but unlike VT this is going to kick srerious @ss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gedneil Alpeart Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (losingit2k @ Apr 12 2012, 11:09 AM) QUOTE (Natural.Science @ Apr 12 2012, 11:04 AM) The album is exactly 66:04 minutes long. That means this is the second longest album Rush ever made! After Vapor Trails (which is 1 minute longer). Yeah but unlike VT this is going to kick srerious @ss! VT would have kicked a lot more @ss and chomped some off too if the production was cleaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Gedneil Alpeart @ Apr 12 2012, 11:11 AM) QUOTE (losingit2k @ Apr 12 2012, 11:09 AM) QUOTE (Natural.Science @ Apr 12 2012, 11:04 AM) The album is exactly 66:04 minutes long. That means this is the second longest album Rush ever made! After Vapor Trails (which is 1 minute longer). Yeah but unlike VT this is going to kick srerious @ss! VT would have kicked a lot more @ss and chomped some off too if the production was cleaner. I agree 100 % with that statement! I'd wish would allow Nick or Terry would just remix the thing already! Throw us a bone on that one! Edited April 12, 2012 by losingit2k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaked Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (losingit2k @ Apr 12 2012, 12:26 PM) QUOTE (Gedneil Alpeart @ Apr 12 2012, 11:11 AM) QUOTE (losingit2k @ Apr 12 2012, 11:09 AM) QUOTE (Natural.Science @ Apr 12 2012, 11:04 AM) The album is exactly 66:04 minutes long. That means this is the second longest album Rush ever made! After Vapor Trails (which is 1 minute longer). Yeah but unlike VT this is going to kick srerious @ss! VT would have kicked a lot more @ss and chomped some off too if the production was cleaner. I agree 100 % with that statement! I'd wish would allow Nick or Terry would just remix the thing already! Throw us a bone on that one! Remixing wont help VT, it was recorded too hot. Has nothing to do with the mix or subsequent mastering.. the original tracks were improperly recorded.... which is a shame. I love the songs, but the production is absolutely horrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godeater2112 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (Snaked @ Apr 12 2012, 10:02 AM) BU2B2 - 1:28 Pretty much solidifies my theory that it's a reprise and/or bridge between Headlong Flight and Wish Them Well. Didacts and Narpets FTW! In your face Flanders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagegrace26 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (Snaked @ Apr 12 2012, 11:29 AM) QUOTE (losingit2k @ Apr 12 2012, 12:26 PM) QUOTE (Gedneil Alpeart @ Apr 12 2012, 11:11 AM) QUOTE (losingit2k @ Apr 12 2012, 11:09 AM) QUOTE (Natural.Science @ Apr 12 2012, 11:04 AM) The album is exactly 66:04 minutes long. That means this is the second longest album Rush ever made! After Vapor Trails (which is 1 minute longer). Yeah but unlike VT this is going to kick srerious @ss! VT would have kicked a lot more @ss and chomped some off too if the production was cleaner. I agree 100 % with that statement! I'd wish would allow Nick or Terry would just remix the thing already! Throw us a bone on that one! Remixing wont help VT, it was recorded too hot. Has nothing to do with the mix or subsequent mastering.. the original tracks were improperly recorded.... which is a shame. I love the songs, but the production is absolutely horrid. Uh. Two tracks have already been remixed and regardless of whether one actually likes the remixes they definitely sound very clean in comparison to the originals. A good remixing of the entire album is definitely possible. Don't pretend you know anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Who cares if there is not a ten minute song? There are basically five tracks that are around seven minutes. Seven minutes is pretty epic to me. Wasn't Jacob's Ladder in that range? If these songs flow together it might be like one sixty six minute song. Rush are probably doing their first ever full record concept album and we still get compaining? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdog212 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (Rush-O-Matic @ Apr 12 2012, 09:19 AM) I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, but what is the deal around here with starting new threads? Do you get points for that, or something? The tracklist was posted in two other existing threads that related to the track length almost an hour before this thread was started. Is it necessary to clog up the forum with as many new threads as possible? It's really odd to me. When I posted the tracklist before, I wasn't sure if it had already been reported, so I spent just a few minutes checking other threads and even did a search to make sure. Am I the only one that does that? I enjoy visiting these forums and discussing all things Rush, but HOLY CRAP it takes forEVER to sort through redundant threads. The threads being started on here border on the absurd to ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (snowdog212 @ Apr 12 2012, 01:44 PM) QUOTE (Rush-O-Matic @ Apr 12 2012, 09:19 AM) I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, but what is the deal around here with starting new threads? Do you get points for that, or something? The tracklist was posted in two other existing threads that related to the track length almost an hour before this thread was started. Is it necessary to clog up the forum with as many new threads as possible? It's really odd to me. When I posted the tracklist before, I wasn't sure if it had already been reported, so I spent just a few minutes checking other threads and even did a search to make sure. Am I the only one that does that? I enjoy visiting these forums and discussing all things Rush, but HOLY CRAP it takes forEVER to sort through redundant threads. The threads being started on here border on the absurd to ridiculous Can someone please show me the two threads besides this one that deal with the track running times? Links, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagegrace26 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (snowdog212 @ Apr 12 2012, 12:44 PM) QUOTE (Rush-O-Matic @ Apr 12 2012, 09:19 AM) I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, but what is the deal around here with starting new threads? Do you get points for that, or something? The tracklist was posted in two other existing threads that related to the track length almost an hour before this thread was started. Is it necessary to clog up the forum with as many new threads as possible? It's really odd to me. When I posted the tracklist before, I wasn't sure if it had already been reported, so I spent just a few minutes checking other threads and even did a search to make sure. Am I the only one that does that? I enjoy visiting these forums and discussing all things Rush, but HOLY CRAP it takes forEVER to sort through redundant threads. The threads being started on here border on the absurd to ridiculous I was going to start a "Rate the Track Names" thread. Thanks for discouraging me.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driventotheedge Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (savagegrace26 @ Apr 12 2012, 10:32 AM)QUOTE (Snaked @ Apr 12 2012, 11:29 AM) QUOTE (losingit2k @ Apr 12 2012, 12:26 PM) QUOTE (Gedneil Alpeart @ Apr 12 2012, 11:11 AM) QUOTE (losingit2k @ Apr 12 2012, 11:09 AM) QUOTE (Natural.Science @ Apr 12 2012, 11:04 AM) The album is exactly 66:04 minutes long. That means this is the second longest album Rush ever made! After Vapor Trails (which is 1 minute longer). Yeah but unlike VT this is going to kick srerious @ss! VT would have kicked a lot more @ss and chomped some off too if the production was cleaner. I agree 100 % with that statement! I'd wish would allow Nick or Terry would just remix the thing already! Throw us a bone on that one! Remixing wont help VT, it was recorded too hot. Has nothing to do with the mix or subsequent mastering.. the original tracks were improperly recorded.... which is a shame. I love the songs, but the production is absolutely horrid. Uh. Two tracks have already been remixed and regardless of whether one actually likes the remixes they definitely sound very clean in comparison to the originals. A good remixing of the entire album is definitely possible. Don't pretend you know anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Bow Defeated Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (presto123 @ Apr 12 2012, 12:33 PM) Who cares if there is not a ten minute song? There are basically five tracks that are around seven minutes. Seven minutes is pretty epic to me. Wasn't Jacob's Ladder in that range? If these songs flow together it might be like one sixty six minute song. Rush are probably doing their first ever full record concept album and we still get compaining? Yup, five tracks in the ballpark of JL (7:28) and what appears to be a full album-length sci-fi epic, and people still whine. Worst of all is going to be the constant whining about the religion theme of CA from a few members here, because I'm pretty sure BU2B2 is not going to be about the hero becoming born again. Edited April 12, 2012 by They Bow Defeated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunter Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 If you click on the OP's link to best buy and then click the Details tab it lists the genre as pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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