USB Connector Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 QUOTE (danielmclark @ Apr 1 2012, 12:39 PM) QUOTE (USB Connector @ Apr 1 2012, 10:47 AM) The song is very well written both lyrically and musically. The fact that you take anything spouted by anyone associated with Rolling Stone/RRHoF as truth without verification tells me a lot about you as a person. Who are you talking to here? http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/554/facepalm.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielmclark Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 QUOTE (USB Connector @ Apr 1 2012, 11:43 AM) QUOTE (danielmclark @ Apr 1 2012, 12:39 PM) QUOTE (USB Connector @ Apr 1 2012, 10:47 AM) The song is very well written both lyrically and musically. The fact that you take anything spouted by anyone associated with Rolling Stone/RRHoF as truth without verification tells me a lot about you as a person. Who are you talking to here? http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/554/facepalm.jpg Your comment confuses me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USB Connector Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 QUOTE (danielmclark @ Apr 1 2012, 01:57 PM) QUOTE (USB Connector @ Apr 1 2012, 11:43 AM) QUOTE (danielmclark @ Apr 1 2012, 12:39 PM) QUOTE (USB Connector @ Apr 1 2012, 10:47 AM) The song is very well written both lyrically and musically. The fact that you take anything spouted by anyone associated with Rolling Stone/RRHoF as truth without verification tells me a lot about you as a person. Who are you talking to here? http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/554/facepalm.jpg Your comment confuses me. Which is why I facepalmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndseyG Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 QUOTE (Geddyleegenes @ Mar 31 2012, 12:28 PM) One of Rush's most fantastic songs musically and lyrically. +1 Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sawyer Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Okay just read that article today with no expectation of this reference. I lol'ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 QUOTE (goose @ Apr 1 2012, 11:47 AM)QUOTE (laughedatbytime @ Mar 31 2012, 09:41 PM) Well, I'm one of those people who think it's a damning indictment of socialism. I think it's pretty clear that this is the point Neil is making. Demand equality, and you may get your wish. Everyone will be relegated to the lowest deniminator. The kid movie "The Incredibles" has the same message embeded in it, although with somewhat more subtlety than Neil. http://www.chrisdiclerico.com/wp/wp-content/incredibles_200.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompers Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 QUOTE (ReRushed @ Mar 30 2012, 11:53 PM) QUOTE (losingit2k @ Mar 30 2012, 11:50 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Mar 30 2012, 10:49 PM) Lyrics are overrated. You're Overrated! I'm flattered! I simply think melody trumps lyrics. Win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 QUOTE (JohnnyBlaze @ Apr 1 2012, 11:53 PM) QUOTE (goose @ Apr 1 2012, 11:47 AM)QUOTE (laughedatbytime @ Mar 31 2012, 09:41 PM) Well, I'm one of those people who think it's a damning indictment of socialism. I think it's pretty clear that this is the point Neil is making. Demand equality, and you may get your wish. Everyone will be relegated to the lowest deniminator. The kid movie "The Incredibles" has the same message embeded in it, although with somewhat more subtlety than Neil. http://www.chrisdiclerico.com/wp/wp-content/incredibles_200.jpg Love watching that with the kids! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 QUOTE (GeddysMullet @ Apr 1 2012, 07:43 AM) I think the lyrics to The Trees are a brilliant unintentional parody of Objectivism. Unintentional brilliance...not sure how to take that. I will remember the phrase, though. Seems a useful one, especially over at SOCN... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbirdsong Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 QUOTE (laughedatbytime @ Mar 31 2012, 09:41 PM) Well, I'm one of those people who think it's a damning indictment of socialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That One Guy Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Funny, my friends who are in the "gray" area of being-a-Rush-fanism don't know much about songs outside the popular ones, but always point out The Trees as having "neat" or "clever" lyrics. I personally find them worthwhile. Neil was ~25 and possibly high when they were conceived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrak Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Neil called the lyrics "doggerel" somewhere down the line, but they make a particular point, one that most rock critics are bound by oath to dismiss. I've often been amused at how strongly some people object to The Trees - tells me more about them than Peart's allegorical whimsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geddyleegenes Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Union 5-3992 @ Mar 31 2012, 10:42 PM)Another of Neil's Rand inspired songs. Other than The Trees & 2112, what other songs have lyrics inspired by her novels? I know that the authors of the rather bizarre book "Mystic Rhythms - The Philosophical Vision of Rush" think that "The Trees" was inspired by the works of Ayn Rand, but it wasn't. Here's what Neil had to say about "The Trees" in an interview with Modern Drummer Magazine in 1980: Though it seems to be steeped in meaning, according to lyricist/drummer Neil Peart, there is no meaning at all in this song. When asked about whether there is a message to "The Trees", Peart said, "No. It was just a flash. I was working on an entirely different thing when I saw a cartoon picture of these trees carrying on like fools. I thought, 'What if trees acted like people?' So I saw it as a cartoon really, and wrote it that way. I think that's the image that it conjures up to a listener or a reader. A very simple statement." Edited April 4, 2012 by Geddyleegenes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBob Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 QUOTE (goose @ Mar 31 2012, 09:47 PM) QUOTE (laughedatbytime @ Mar 31 2012, 09:41 PM) Well, I'm one of those people who think it's a damning indictment of socialism. I think it's pretty clear that this is the point Neil is making. Demand equality, and you may get your wish. Everyone will be relegated to the lowest deniminator. The kid movie "The Incredibles" has the same message embeded in it, although with somewhat more subtlety than Neil. Huh? I thought it was about trees battling, kind of like Bytor and the Snow dog were dogs Battling. I never knew there was any kind of metaphor at all in these songs. But now that you mention it.... So then, who are the good guys in this song the Oaks or the Maples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 QUOTE (Geddyleegenes @ Apr 3 2012, 09:30 PM) QUOTE (Union 5-3992 @ Mar 31 2012, 10:42 PM)Another of Neil's Rand inspired songs. Other than The Trees & 2112, what other songs have lyrics inspired by her novels? I know that the authors of the rather bizarre book "Mystic Rhythms - The Philosophical Vision of Rush" think that "The Trees" was inspired by the works of Ayn Rand, but it wasn't. Here's what Neil had to say about "The Trees" in an interview with Modern Drummer Magazine in 1980: Though it seems to be steeped in meaning, according to lyricist/drummer Neil Peart, there is no meaning at all in this song. When asked about whether there is a message to "The Trees", Peart said, "No. It was just a flash. I was working on an entirely different thing when I saw a cartoon picture of these trees carrying on like fools. I thought, 'What if trees acted like people?' So I saw it as a cartoon really, and wrote it that way. I think that's the image that it conjures up to a listener or a reader. A very simple statement." Cartoonish...yes. From the mouth of the Professor himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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