Itty12 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Is it just me or does the beginning of LTTA sound a bit off beat or something? It sounds a bit funny as if Neil started too late and Geddy worked off that but Alex seemed to come in when he was supposed to but was forced to fallow Neil's late start when it came to his main rif. Am I just making this up or am i correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarizeMe Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Are you talking about the very beginning where the synth sample is playing and then Neil comes in about a split second or so late after Geddy says "Hey!"? If so then yes I did find that a bit unusual but not something that's really bothering but I don't think that tiny delay affected when Geddy or Alex come in because I think that's how the arrangement was for the tour. The Different Stages version had Neil's drums come in first, Geddy's bass two measures later, and finally Alex's guitar a measure after that. On Rush In Rio, Neil and Alex come in at the same time with Geddy following 2 measure later; you don't hear Alex's guitar part at first because he's using a volume pedal which makes it sound like the guitar part is fading in. On Live In Cleveland, Geddy comes 2 measures later after Neil, and then Alex a half measure later. I do know that the Rio sounds closer to the one in Counterparts in terms of where the instruments come in but during the Counterparts tour, Geddy and Alex come in at the same time after Neil. You can always check out videos of different performances of it on YouTube to see what I mean. I'm not sure if this is what your question is about, but hopefully it's informative and useful in some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itty12 Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 The synth sample is off beat it seems. As if Geddy's foot slipped off the pedal for a split second so for the first quarter of the song, the synth sample isn't is the right place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarizeMe Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Synth sounds off? I think I gotta listen to that track again because I always thought that Geddy triggered the pedal at the right time and it was just Neil who came in a split second late. Now that you mention it, I think you may be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itty12 Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 Almost defiantly. It happens just as Neil comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarizeMe Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Yeah, I took a listen to it again, and now I can tell what you mean. The synth's definitely off for the first 1/4 of the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itty12 Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 Kind of makes it hard to listen to. For me atleast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USB Connector Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I noticed the beginning, but otherwise, the awkward thing was the guitar not coming through when alex is playing those awesome chords during the 1:36 mark on the studio album the second time they get to that part. Otherwise, the song was awesome with the added solo. 1:36 on this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLq0tpZZe7M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngoldman Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Come on, let's not do this again. When S&A Live came out, there was a member here who lost all kinds of sleep because during "Tom Sawyer", Alex's bobble head still shook a little after Neil's and Geddy's stopped. Just remember, they're only human... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just an Escape Artist Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 I think the song sounds great on the cd. however I really liked it how on Rush in Rio it goes straight into the drum solo. I played around with my ipod, creating a playlist for the entire show and moved the song to just in front of the drum solo, where I wanted it to go. I chopped off the last 2 or 3 seconds where Geddy speaks at the end of the song, and now have a nice flow of Leave that Thing Alone right into Moto Perpetuo. I was not a real big fan of Caravan going into the drum solo. No big deal, but that was a pretty cool solution. Now I have a nice long second set! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarizeMe Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 QUOTE (Just an Escape Artist @ Nov 15 2011, 02:23 PM)I think the song sounds great on the cd. however I really liked it how on Rush in Rio it goes straight into the drum solo. I played around with my ipod, creating a playlist for the entire show and moved the song to just in front of the drum solo, where I wanted it to go. I chopped off the last 2 or 3 seconds where Geddy speaks at the end of the song, and now have a nice flow of Leave that Thing Alone right into Moto Perpetuo. I was not a real big fan of Caravan going into the drum solo. No big deal, but that was a pretty cool solution. Now I have a nice long second set! I think this was the best live version of Leave That Thing Alone so far. It won't bother me that much if there's mistakes on this song or the rest of the show. Looking back at previous live albums, I realized that there have been "mistakes" that were actually kept in. On R30, the Tom Sawyer opening synth was accidentally triggered but it didn't cause a trainwreck, it made the song sound cooler actually. Different Stages also had LTTA precede the drum solo. Had Malignant Narcissism made the setlist on this tour, it was bound to be placed before the solo, without question. Besides Caravan, I think Red Sector A during the R30 tour was the other non-instrumental that preceded Neil's solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugen Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 They should have "left that thing Alone" in the archives forever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barchetta90480 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 QUOTE (RUDT @ Nov 16 2011, 10:29 PM) They should have "left that thing Alone" in the archives forever... I beg to differ. It was a highlight of this tour - other than Caravan or Faithless ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMCXII Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 QUOTE (barchetta90480 @ Dec 9 2011, 06:28 AM) QUOTE (RUDT @ Nov 16 2011, 10:29 PM) They should have "left that thing Alone" in the archives forever... I beg to differ. It was a highlight of this tour - other than Caravan or Faithless ... Definitely a highlight! Geddy should give his voice more down time by doing more instrumentals. But I guess that would be the easy route which is so not Rush! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtrushfan Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Well "Leave that Thing Alone" is one of my favorite RUSH tracks. It sounds good on the Time Machine Blu-Ray, but the version from Rio is much better IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbertk Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I wish that on the whole recording, but on this song in particular that the bass was more prominent.. The solo at the end sounded really muddy and less impressive that the Rio solo, but I know this one was better. I mean LOOK at this!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the masked drummer Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (PolarizeMe @ Nov 9 2011, 10:00 PM) Synth sounds off? I think I gotta listen to that track again because I always thought that Geddy triggered the pedal at the right time and it was just Neil who came in a split second late. Now that you mention it, I think you may be right. I haven't seen it yet, but Neil is probably listening to a metronome which makes it impossible to compensate for any timing issues the other guys might have. Another thing that happens sometimes if not using a metronome for reference is having trouble hearing other instruments in the monitor mix. It doesn't take much to throw a drummer off a half a beat or so if he can't hear where the beat even is. I'm so curious about this I might have to buy the damn bd... Edited January 23, 2012 by the masked drummer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutman Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I haven't bought it, But who cares? It's live and things happen. The song kicks some serious a**!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutman Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 QUOTE (rtrushfan @ Dec 18 2011, 07:29 AM)Well "Leave that Thing Alone" is one of my favorite RUSH tracks. It sounds good on the Time Machine Blu-Ray, but the version from Rio is much better IMO. I love that version! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUP1771 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Time Machine version is the best. I really like the arrangement of having the sequencer come in, then drums, bass, and then finally guitar. It seems like the TM version has so much more power than Rio, but just my humble opinion. It was amazing when I saw them at MSG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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