reani14 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Man, what a perfect version. I love the sound on DS, it's so ballsy . I really wish all live stuff could sound that good.. I really love the 2112 version here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Krinkle Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Far from 'perfect'. That would be the 1980 St. Louis version. Playing along with 2112 from DS, I find Geddy not playing with as much energy. All the chops are pretty much gone and it sounds rough. They were on autopilot with it from 1976-1980 and even the Temples and Overture that they played on the MP tour still had that energy. 16 years go by, they erase it from their toolbox and when they played it in 1996-97, it was missing that power they used to play it with. I think it's lackluster compared to the way they played it back in 1980. Having said that, I still think it was great to see them play it on the TFE tour. I saw it 7 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenken Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Yeah its a great recording of it. Not the best they ever played it, that would be in the early 80s, but its funny when they started just playing Syrinx in the mid 80s. They played it so fast it sounded like it was in fast forward. Never liked what they did with that. But they started doing it right later, like on DS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reani14 Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 oh forgot how great that 1980 st louis version is.. good stuff there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sawyer Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 I have a TFE boot, and 2112 sounds amazing on it. (I don't have DS yet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollthebones1963 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 ever since 2112 came out,i just about bet that rush has played side 1 at every concert since then have'nt they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blending strings Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 I would agree with REANI14, I really like the St.Louis version which ofcourse had great energy to it, but I think they have better use of timing and emphasis on different sections of 2112 on DS... plus I like listening to Discovery in 2112, which of course they did not perform during the PW tour (St. Louis Concert). All in all, I love 2112 in both concerts, but I think 2112 in DS might be just a little better if only in subtle timing and emphasis in the drums, vocals, and some of the leads (particularly in Soliloquy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Don't Tell Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 I think the DS version of 2112 is my favourite. Though it has been a while since I've heard the St. Louis 1980 version. I'll take a listen later and compare. P.S. The sound/production on DS kicks ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reani14 Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 DS, has the best live sound over rio and snakes. for sure.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blending strings Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Yes, I would agree with Reani14 on that too... it's funny, because while I don't dislike RIO or Snakes and Arrows Live discs one bit, overall, the sound quality throughout the entire concert on DS seems better to me. I'm not sure why that is... I think that as I remember it, Geddy and Paul N. did most of the mixing with that CD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reani14 Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 The Trees really kicks ass on DS too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blending strings Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Yeah, I liked Analog Kid and Nobody's Hero off that disc - and ofcourse hearing Oracle in 2112. It occured to me that RIO and Snakes and Arrows was from one show, while although much of DS was from the Chicago show, many of the songs from DS were from some different shows - yet it sounds like it's from one show... any thoughts about why it just seems the production seems to sound better (to me anyways) on DS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reani14 Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 cause of the mixers, which i believe were geddy and some other guy. But when they let big al take over the controls, ouch.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yokkov Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 QUOTE (rollthebones1963 @ Jul 9 2011, 12:33 PM) ever since 2112 came out,i just about bet that rush has played side 1 at every concert since then have'nt they? Sorry, but not even close. 2112came out in 1976, and even during that and closely following tours, they never played it full. They skipped the part; oracle:the dream in every concert. Then on the moving picture tour, because of their mass of material, they started only playing the first 2 parts, overture, and temples of syrinx. Then, in the test for echo tour in 1996-1997, they DID play the full side one of the album. I'm not critizing you at all, just informing another fan about rush! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USB Connector Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 IMO, the DS version of 2112 is amazing and in some ways better than the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blending strings Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I think the lead solo in Dreamline (the part of brief improv before the standard studio lead) off DS is also better than on RIO or Snakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarizeMe Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Different Stages was definitely more rawer than Snakes for sure...I remember Geddy said that the sound they were trying to get was something similar along the lines of All The World's A Stage. I think this is why most of us love the sound production of DS. IDK if any of you will agree with me on this, but I think Geddy's bass had a LOT of crunch compared to R30 and Snakes and as a bass lover and (a pretty mediocre noob) bassist, me like the tone of the bass on DS. I thought that 2112 on DS was an awesome recording of the song, and as USB Connector said, this recording is in some ways better than the original...I like the fact that the detuning of the song gives it a heavier sound, and it's the only truly, fully complete live version of 2112, so I give props for the DS version for that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babycat Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Different Stages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIDE-ANGLE WATCHER Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 My favorite version is on....... http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/tanhuntland/RUSHIrvine2010040.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babycat Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 QUOTE (WIDE-ANGLE WATCHER @ Jul 11 2011, 08:24 PM) My favorite version is on....... http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/tanhuntland/RUSHIrvine2010040.jpg Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak2112 Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 For vocals, I like the St. Louis version, but only for the really high pitched stuff. I think the DS version blows it away musically and I'm shocked that some think it lacks energy. The drums in particular are just off the hook, especially at the end. Just awesome. Wish I could have seen that tour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Money Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Their best live album imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blending strings Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 So cool Tat!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg2112 Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Its very good. Best part is Alex's extended version of Discovery. Excellent stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluePhoenix Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 I'm not crazy about the Different Stages version of 2112. I guess it's partly because it's tuned down and it just doesn't sound right to me. For me the ultimate live version of 2112 is on All the Worlds a Stage. Yeah, I know it's missing Discovery but I don't care. Everything else makes up for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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