youngoldman Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I think they do it for the large part of their audience that don't get to see them live. They have fans all over the world and they're only playing 50-60 shows a tour, so you're lucky to see them when they do tour. I like to see them live and get the video release, too. Is that overkill? Not for me, personally... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxxiStarr Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 QUOTE (youngoldman @ May 19 2011, 01:04 PM) I think they do it for the large part of their audience that don't get to see them live. They have fans all over the world and they're only playing 50-60 shows a tour, so you're lucky to see them when they do tour. I like to see them live and get the video release, too. Is that overkill? Not for me, personally... Would have been good if they DID release a live dvd after each tour because those of us over here haven't all had the chance to see each tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Owl Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 I am not trying to bitch much, and I wouldn't even bring it up much if the setlists were a drastic from tour to tour, but they don't change their setlists up that much to warrant a new live album every tour... see what I mean here.. - Different Stages -----Shares in Common with--------Rush in Rio Tom Sawyer Roll The Bones YYZ Bravado The Trees Freewill Closer to the Heart Natural Science Driven Dreamline Leave That Thing Alone Limelight Resist 2112 (RIR Had: Overture, and Temples---- DS had the whole thing) The Spirit of Radio - Rush in Rio ----------- Shares in Common With ------ R30 (Blu Ray Only in Parenthesis) Spirit of Radio Earthshine Roll the Bones Tom Sawyer Dreamline Resist 2112 (Overture and Temples.... R30 Included Grand Finale) Working Man Limelight (Red Sector A) (The Trees) (La Villa Strangiato) (One Little Victory) (YYZ) (By- Tor) - R30-------------- Shares in Common With ---------------- S&A Live Limelight Freewill Between the Wheels Dreamline Subdivsions Tom Sawyer The Spirit of Radio (YYZ) (One Little Victory) - S&A Live ------------ Shares in Common With-------------- Time Machine Tour (assuming, which is a good probability there will be a release) Spirit of Radio Working Them Angles Freewill Subdivisions Tom Sawyer Limelight Witch Hunt YYZ Far Cry By Contrast (Utilizing the last 5 consecutive tours/live releases) - Songs that "Different Stages" had to itself Test for Echo Show Don't Tell 2112 ( Discovery- Soliloquy) The Analog Kid Nobody's Hero - Songs that " Rush In Rio" had to itself New World Man The Pass Big Money Between Sun & Moon - Songs that R30 Had to itself (not including the cover bullshit which was 4 tracks) Force Ten (Yeah, That's It) - Songs that S&A Live had to itself Circumstances Entre Nous Digital Man Mission The Main Monkey Business The Larger Bowl Armor & Sword The Way The Wind Blows Mal Nar A Passage to Bangkok - Songs that the Time Machine Tour has to itself Time Stand Still Presto Faithless BU2B Caravan Marathon The Camera Eye ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I think You get my point.... I am of the Opinion that if you release a live album say every 2 or 3 album cycles, instead of EVERY album cycle, then you will have a lot less similarity from Live album to Live album (or DVD) which will make for more variety on each live release... Think about it... you have have not released a live album since 3 tours ago, you could make half your set all "new material" that was not on a previous live album... because you've had 3 albums worth of material to cover on the new live album.... Now I like the live releases, but I am of the Opinion that the "what they had different" catagory that I demonstrated, should be larger than the "what they had in common" category.... and spacing out your live albums I feel would help achieve that... Just my very long $.02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucsteve667 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 QUOTE (The Owl @ May 19 2011, 09:48 PM) I am not trying to bitch much, and I wouldn't even bring it up much if the setlists were a drastic from tour to tour, but they don't change their setlists up that much to warrant a new live album every tour... see what I mean here.. - Different Stages -----Shares in Common with--------Rush in Rio Tom Sawyer Roll The Bones YYZ Bravado The Trees Freewill Closer to the Heart Natural Science Driven Dreamline Leave That Thing Alone Limelight Resist 2112 (RIR Had: Overture, and Temples---- DS had the whole thing) The Spirit of Radio - Rush in Rio ----------- Shares in Common With ------ R30 (Blu Ray Only in Parenthesis) Spirit of Radio Earthshine Roll the Bones Tom Sawyer Dreamline Resist 2112 (Overture and Temples.... R30 Included Grand Finale) Working Man Limelight (Red Sector A) (The Trees) (La Villa Strangiato) (One Little Victory) (YYZ) (By- Tor) - R30-------------- Shares in Common With ---------------- S&A Live Limelight Freewill Between the Wheels Dreamline Subdivsions Tom Sawyer The Spirit of Radio (YYZ) (One Little Victory) - S&A Live ------------ Shares in Common With-------------- Time Machine Tour (assuming, which is a good probability there will be a release) Spirit of Radio Working Them Angles Freewill Subdivisions Tom Sawyer Limelight Witch Hunt YYZ Far Cry By Contrast (Utilizing the last 5 consecutive tours/live releases) - Songs that "Different Stages" had to itself Test for Echo Show Don't Tell 2112 ( Discovery- Soliloquy) The Analog Kid Nobody's Hero - Songs that " Rush In Rio" had to itself New World Man The Pass Big Money Between Sun & Moon - Songs that R30 Had to itself (not including the cover bullshit which was 4 tracks) Force Ten (Yeah, That's It) - Songs that S&A Live had to itself Circumstances Entre Nous Digital Man Mission The Main Monkey Business The Larger Bowl Armor & Sword The Way The Wind Blows Mal Nar A Passage to Bangkok - Songs that the Time Machine Tour has to itself Time Stand Still Presto Faithless BU2B Caravan Marathon The Camera Eye ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I think You get my point.... I am of the Opinion that if you release a live album say every 2 or 3 album cycles, instead of EVERY album cycle, then you will have a lot less similarity from Live album to Live album (or DVD) which will make for more variety on each live release... Think about it... you have have not released a live album since 3 tours ago, you could make half your set all "new material" that was not on a previous live album... because you've had 3 albums worth of material to cover on the new live album.... Now I like the live releases, but I am of the Opinion that the "what they had different" catagory that I demonstrated, should be larger than the "what they had in common" category.... and spacing out your live albums I feel would help achieve that... Just my very long $.02 just forward this chart to Ray so they can correct all this right away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thizzellewashington Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I don't understand the question. Which of their recent tours would people have had them not release something from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 QUOTE (ucsteve667 @ May 19 2011, 11:03 PM) QUOTE (The Owl @ May 19 2011, 09:48 PM) I am not trying to bitch much, and I wouldn't even bring it up much if the setlists were a drastic from tour to tour, but they don't change their setlists up that much to warrant a new live album every tour... see what I mean here.. - Different Stages -----Shares in Common with--------Rush in Rio Tom Sawyer Roll The Bones YYZ Bravado The Trees Freewill Closer to the Heart Natural Science Driven Dreamline Leave That Thing Alone Limelight Resist 2112 (RIR Had: Overture, and Temples---- DS had the whole thing) The Spirit of Radio - Rush in Rio ----------- Shares in Common With ------ R30 (Blu Ray Only in Parenthesis) Spirit of Radio Earthshine Roll the Bones Tom Sawyer Dreamline Resist 2112 (Overture and Temples.... R30 Included Grand Finale) Working Man Limelight (Red Sector A) (The Trees) (La Villa Strangiato) (One Little Victory) (YYZ) (By- Tor) - R30-------------- Shares in Common With ---------------- S&A Live Limelight Freewill Between the Wheels Dreamline Subdivsions Tom Sawyer The Spirit of Radio (YYZ) (One Little Victory) - S&A Live ------------ Shares in Common With-------------- Time Machine Tour (assuming, which is a good probability there will be a release) Spirit of Radio Working Them Angles Freewill Subdivisions Tom Sawyer Limelight Witch Hunt YYZ Far Cry By Contrast (Utilizing the last 5 consecutive tours/live releases) - Songs that "Different Stages" had to itself Test for Echo Show Don't Tell 2112 ( Discovery- Soliloquy) The Analog Kid Nobody's Hero - Songs that " Rush In Rio" had to itself New World Man The Pass Big Money Between Sun & Moon - Songs that R30 Had to itself (not including the cover bullshit which was 4 tracks) Force Ten (Yeah, That's It) - Songs that S&A Live had to itself Circumstances Entre Nous Digital Man Mission The Main Monkey Business The Larger Bowl Armor & Sword The Way The Wind Blows Mal Nar A Passage to Bangkok - Songs that the Time Machine Tour has to itself Time Stand Still Presto Faithless BU2B Caravan Marathon The Camera Eye ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I think You get my point.... I am of the Opinion that if you release a live album say every 2 or 3 album cycles, instead of EVERY album cycle, then you will have a lot less similarity from Live album to Live album (or DVD) which will make for more variety on each live release... Think about it... you have have not released a live album since 3 tours ago, you could make half your set all "new material" that was not on a previous live album... because you've had 3 albums worth of material to cover on the new live album.... Now I like the live releases, but I am of the Opinion that the "what they had different" catagory that I demonstrated, should be larger than the "what they had in common" category.... and spacing out your live albums I feel would help achieve that... Just my very long $.02 just forward this chart to Ray so they can correct all this right away Ray is clueless . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesRPJr Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 No I dont think that a live release is a bad move after each tour.....It gives those of us who were unable to see the Guys on tour this go round a chance to hear and see them in all their glory! It also gives Rush a chance to cover some older material that has been sitting around unheard for a long time....(Hint, Hint!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Owl Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 QUOTE (JamesRPJr @ May 20 2011, 08:56 AM) No I dont think that a live release is a bad move after each tour.....It gives those of us who were unable to see the Guys on tour this go round a chance to hear and see them in all their glory! It also gives Rush a chance to cover some older material that has been sitting around unheard for a long time....(Hint, Hint!) I wouldn't mind as much either, like I mentioned above in my long winded post it wouldn't be too much of an issue if their setlist from this tour was not 50% (or more) the same setlist from the previous tour... Having two or more back to back tours with setlists that keep the same material dosen't warrant back to back live releases IMO.. I mentioned the bands like Porcupine Tree, Dream Theater, and Opeth are also in the habit of releasing live material for almost every tour... but if you look at their live material, they at least make a conscious effort for a different setlist and tracklist from live album/dvd to live album/dvd. I love Rush's live releases, but the redundancy is getting wearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Absolutely not! Specially with the quality of thir musicianship as of late. Every Live DVD has something to offer. the forthcoming being: The Camera Eye & Caravan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbirdsong Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I have bootlegs from every tour. If I could get official releases of my favorite and best shows from each tour I would chuck the boots in a second. It has worked will for King Crimson and several other bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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