StellarJetman Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 (edited) Edited March 7, 2011 by StellarJetman
J2112YYZ Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 None of those are even close to his worst. Dog Years is immediately what I think of when it comes to that. The line from TSOR fits the song perfectly. The words written on the studio walls I always thought referred to a wall that rocks stars signed while visiting a radio station studio. Or possibly autographed pictures of them hanging up on a wall in the studio. The line "echoes with the sounds of salesmen" makes perfect sense because it's referring to advertisements on the radio. And since it's a song about radio what's the big deal? 2
StellarJetman Posted March 7, 2011 Author Posted March 7, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (J2112YYZ @ Mar 6 2011, 08:15 PM) The line from TSOR fits the song perfectly. The words written on the studio walls I always thought referred to a wall that rocks stars signed while visiting a radio station studio. Or possibly autographed pictures of them hanging up on a wall in the studio. The line "echoes with the sounds of salesmen" makes perfect sense because it's referring to advertisements on the radio. And since it's a song about radio what's the big deal? Oh, I get the lyrics. I just think that the way that they're written is really cheesy, especially in combination with Geddy's delivery. Similarly, it's easy to see the message behind "Dog Years", but it's articulated laughably. Edited March 7, 2011 by StellarJetman
ReRushed Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 QUOTE (StellarJetman @ Mar 6 2011, 09:21 PM) QUOTE (J2112YYZ @ Mar 6 2011, 08:15 PM) The line from TSOR fits the song perfectly. The words written on the studio walls I always thought referred to a wall that rocks stars signed while visiting a radio station studio. Or possibly autographed pictures of them hanging up on a wall in the studio. The line "echoes with the sounds of salesmen" makes perfect sense because it's referring to advertisements on the radio. And since it's a song about radio what's the big deal? Oh, I get the lyrics. I just think that the way that they're written is really cheesy, especially in combination with Geddy's delivery. Similarly, it's easy to see the message behind "Dog Years", but it's articulated laughably. I don't agree with the take on "The Spirit of Radio". The lyrics are obviously an ode to "The Sound of Silence". I think the lyrics work perfectly. 1
evilsugar25 Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 i am going to give this more thought, but the first thing that springs to mind: I stood at the top of the mountain And China sang to me
ReRushed Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 These lyrics make me cringe every time: What can this strange device be? When I touch it, it gives forth a sound It's got wires that vibrate, and give music What can this thing be that I found?
CMWriter Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 QUOTE (ReRushed @ Mar 6 2011, 08:58 PM) These lyrics make me cringe every time: What can this strange device be? When I touch it, it gives forth a sound It's got wires that vibrate, and give music What can this thing be that I found? I understand the significance and love the idea behind it, but.. Yeah. The first time I heard "Discovery" I was laughing my butt off. I don't think it's terrible, it's just.. a little oddly worded, perhaps? If I ever listen to 2112 and my dad's in the room during Presentation, he starts making little mocking, whiny-sounding comments like, "Don't yelll at meee!!" The back-and-forth between the Priests and the Protagonist is interesting, but kind of amusing. I once saw someone comment that they found many of the lyrics to "Red Barchetta" rather "Middle-school" is what they used to describe them. What do you guys think? Yea or nay for "Red Barchetta"?
StellarJetman Posted March 7, 2011 Author Posted March 7, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (CMWriter @ Mar 6 2011, 09:12 PM) I once saw someone comment that they found many of the lyrics to "Red Barchetta" rather "Middle-school" is what they used to describe them. What do you guys think? Yea or nay for "Red Barchetta"? Some of them are good, but there are phrases, especially "before the Motor Law" and "better-managed time", that really don't do it for me. Edited March 7, 2011 by StellarJetman
Good,bad,andrush Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 QUOTE (CMWriter @ Mar 6 2011, 10:12 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Mar 6 2011, 08:58 PM) These lyrics make me cringe every time: What can this strange device be? When I touch it, it gives forth a sound It's got wires that vibrate, and give music What can this thing be that I found? I understand the significance and love the idea behind it, but.. Yeah. The first time I heard "Discovery" I was laughing my butt off. I don't think it's terrible, it's just.. a little oddly worded, perhaps? If I ever listen to 2112 and my dad's in the room during Presentation, he starts making little mocking, whiny-sounding comments like, "Don't yelll at meee!!" The back-and-forth between the Priests and the Protagonist is interesting, but kind of amusing. I once saw someone comment that they found many of the lyrics to "Red Barchetta" rather "Middle-school" is what they used to describe them. What do you guys think? Yea or nay for "Red Barchetta"? Red barchetta lyrics blow my mind, only because of the imagery and vocabulary, so I say it's a win. Totally dorky to describe a car that way, instead of as in highway star or something like that, so I can see why people can say it fails. But to me, epic win.
ReRushed Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 I love the lyrics to "Red Barchetta". It's a fantastic song. No complaints here...
Mr. Not Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 In a dog's life A year is really more like seven And all too soon a canine Will be chasing cars in doggie heaven It seems to me As we make our own few circles 'round the sun We get it backwards And our seven years go by like one Dog years -- It's the season of the itch Dog years -- With every scratch it reappears In the dog days People look to Sirius Dogs cry for the moon But these connections are mysterious It seems to me While it's true that every dog will have his day When all the bones are buried There is barely time to go outside and play Dog years -- It's the season of the itch Dog years -- With every scratch it reappears Dog years -- For every sad son of a bitch Dog years -- With his tail between his ears I'd rather be a tortoise from Galapagos Or a span of geological time Than be living in these dog years In a dog's brain A constant buzz of low-level static One sniff at the hydrant And the answer is automatic It seems to me As well make our own few circles 'round the block We've lost our senses For the higher-level static of talk
Mr. Not Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 High on the sacred mountain Up the seven thousand stairs In the golden light of autumn There was magic in the air The clouds surrounded the summit The wind blew strong and cold Among the silent temples And the writing carved in gold Somewhere in my instincts The primitive took hold. I stood at the top of the mountain And China sang to me In the peaceful haze of harvest time A song of eternity If you raise your hands to heaven You will live a hundred years I stood there like a mystic Lost in the atmosphere The clouds were suddenly parted For a moment I could see The patterns of the landscape Reaching to the eastern sea I looked upon a presence Spanning forty centuries. I stood at the top of the mountain And China sang to me In the peaceful haze of harvest time A song of eternity I thought of time and distance The hardships of history I heard the hope and the hunger When China sang to me... When China sang to me.
Mr. Not Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 ^ I don't particularly love/hate tai shan nor dog years, but most TRF users think these 2 suck in every way possible.
ColdFireYYZ Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 QUOTE (ReRushed @ Mar 6 2011, 10:52 PM) I love the lyrics to "Red Barchetta". It's a fantastic song. No complaints here... Agreed.
psionic11 Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 To me, Tai Shan lyrics are mature and poetic. They are not cheesy. These, however, are: everybody got to reverse polarity from the power train, to the glory game, thy kingdoms will be done making arrows out of pointed words, giant-killers at the call the hypocrites are slandering the sacred hall of Truth love is born with solar flares from two magnetic poles driven to the margin of error / driven to the margin of terror the most endangered species, the honest man, will still survive annihilation Let's face it, most Rush songs will contain some kind of lyric considered "cheesy" by your average, non-Rush troglodyte. <== Yes, the same people who think Lil Wayne or Avenged Sevenfold are not cheesy. One person's cheese is another's whine. YMMV
CMWriter Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 QUOTE (psionic11 @ Mar 6 2011, 10:17 PM) To me, Tai Shan lyrics are mature and poetic. They are not cheesy. These, however, are: everybody got to reverse polarity from the power train, to the glory game, thy kingdoms will be done making arrows out of pointed words, giant-killers at the call the hypocrites are slandering the sacred hall of Truth love is born with solar flares from two magnetic poles driven to the margin of error / driven to the margin of terror the most endangered species, the honest man, will still survive annihilation Let's face it, most Rush songs will contain some kind of lyric considered "cheesy" by your average, non-Rush troglodyte. <== Yes, the same people who think Lil Wayne or Avenged Sevenfold are not cheesy. One person's cheese is another's whine. YMMV Oh man.. Some of those lines I love... Especially that NatSci one. And the "making arrows out of pointed words" has always sent shivers up my spine. Maybe at times he takes the whole metaphor thing a little too far... but I can't say I totally agree with your picks. I see where you're coming from, but there's worse...
Good,bad,andrush Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 The most endangered species, the honest man...that's cheesy? That is by far one of the top three deepest things Neil has written. 1
evilsugar25 Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 QUOTE (Good,bad,andrush @ Mar 6 2011, 11:25 PM) The most endangered species, the honest man...that's cheesy? That is by far one of the top three deepest things Neil has written. agreed - i love the lyrics to Natural Science
Good,bad,andrush Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 QUOTE (evilsugar25 @ Mar 6 2011, 11:34 PM) QUOTE (Good @ bad,andrush,Mar 6 2011, 11:25 PM) The most endangered species, the honest man...that's cheesy? That is by far one of the top three deepest things Neil has written. agreed - i love the lyrics to Natural Science Natural science is a lyrical masterpiece, and in my top five best lyrics of all time. Actually, three rush songs are
CMWriter Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 Okay, I just know someone's going to try and extradite me from TRF, call me a horrible person, or something along those lines, but the first line of "Nobody's Hero" (which I ADORE as a whole) has always, always bugged me: "I knew he was different in his sexuality.." I get it. I get what he's trying to say here. But the execution, to me, kind of.. falls... flat. It's a very "what?" way to start what turns out to be what I think is a great song with neat lyrics. In fact, the whole first verse is a little awkward, in a lyrical sense. I don't feel it flows as well as the following verses or the chorus. I've found that sometimes it's a case of "great idea, not-so-great execution". Which is a shame. 2
Good,bad,andrush Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 I mentioned this in my review. I think it should be switched with the second verse, and the song would flow better and not turn some listeners off.
StellarJetman Posted March 7, 2011 Author Posted March 7, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (CMWriter @ Mar 6 2011, 10:51 PM) "I knew he was different in his sexuality.." I get it. I get what he's trying to say here. But the execution, to me, kind of.. falls... flat. Maybe it's the fact that he says it in such a weird, roundabout fashion, one which is highlighted by the way that the following line gets right to the point with "straight minority"? Edited March 7, 2011 by StellarJetman
RUSHHEAD666 Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 QUOTE (J2112YYZ @ Mar 6 2011, 07:15 PM) None of those are even close to his worst. Dog Years is immediately what I think of when it comes to that. The line from TSOR fits the song perfectly. The words written on the studio walls I always thought referred to a wall that rocks stars signed while visiting a radio station studio. Or possibly autographed pictures of them hanging up on a wall in the studio. The line "echoes with the sounds of salesmen" makes perfect sense because it's referring to advertisements on the radio. And since it's a song about radio what's the big deal? DITTO! Pure "dog shite" next to the "Net Boy Net Girl" rubbish.
thizzellewashington Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 How has this thread gone this far without "For you and me, we hold these truths to be self-evident/for you and me, we'd elect each other president"?
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