ReRushed Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jan 14 2011, 08:08 PM) QUOTE (VarianStar @ Jan 14 2011, 09:22 AM) Oh for crying out loud, the song may be bad but it's not homophobic! Seriously. I tend to be overtly sensitive about things offensive to LGBT people, but this is ridiculous. Yeah, there are some derogatory words in there, but look at the context they're used in. It's clearly not meant that way, and I really doubt that many LGBT people got too freaked out by that song, especially one that's so old. This just seems really silly to me. This is not about taking things in context. It's simply PC run amok, by a council/panel, no less. The song has been around FOREVER and now it's offensive? The tail is indeed wagging the dog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micgtr71 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Hmmm. I like Dire Straits, most of Brothers in Arms notwithstanding. Mark Knopfler is one of my favorite guitarists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinwoodsman Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 (edited) The CRTC is trying to get up Steven Harper's ass or vice versa. I like their music and Mark's solo music too and don't find the lyrics offensive ... fwiw. Edited January 15, 2011 by Tinwoodsman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Jan 14 2011, 06:13 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jan 14 2011, 08:08 PM) QUOTE (VarianStar @ Jan 14 2011, 09:22 AM) Oh for crying out loud, the song may be bad but it's not homophobic! Seriously. I tend to be overtly sensitive about things offensive to LGBT people, but this is ridiculous. Yeah, there are some derogatory words in there, but look at the context they're used in. It's clearly not meant that way, and I really doubt that many LGBT people got too freaked out by that song, especially one that's so old. This just seems really silly to me. This is not about taking things in context. It's simply PC run amok, by a council/panel, no less. The song has been around FOREVER and now it's offensive? The tail is indeed wagging the dog! Context plays a HUGE role. If the offending word was used in an overtly offensive way, it would be a whole different story. TONS of rap songs contain the N-word, and those songs aren't always exactly banned because of the context. It depends who uses it and how and why. Now I'm not saying your PC gone amok argument has no merit, as it certainly does. Sometimes things are taken way too far - point in fact, a 25 year old song being banned retroactively. Regardless of how you frame it, however, I think we can both agree it's pretty ridiculous. Edited January 15, 2011 by rushgoober Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarkus406 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 You know...this whole political correctness thing....f**k it. JUST f**k IT! If I want to say gay, I WILL! Next thing we know, cops will be writing out tickets for using derogitory words because "oh boo hoo they offend people" Those people need to grow the f**k up and stop bitching and crying over f***ing WORDS. Honestly, shut up! I will say and do whatever I please and I'm not changing for anybody else! America should follow suit! Put the pledge of allegience back in schools (yes, with "GOD" in it!) I WILL use the words "gay" and "queer". You gay? Great, I'm totally cool with that! ...still using the words though. Get over it. [/rant] Sorry, but P.C. really grinds my gears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 QUOTE (Tarkus406 @ Jan 15 2011, 06:15 PM) Sorry, but P.C. really grinds my gears Same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micgtr71 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 QUOTE (Tarkus406 @ Jan 15 2011, 06:15 PM) You know...this whole political correctness thing....f**k it. JUST f**k IT! If I want to say gay, I WILL! Next thing we know, cops will be writing out tickets for using derogitory words because "oh boo hoo they offend people" Those people need to grow the f**k up and stop bitching and crying over f***ing WORDS. Honestly, shut up! I will say and do whatever I please and I'm not changing for anybody else! America should follow suit! Put the pledge of allegience back in schools (yes, with "GOD" in it!) I WILL use the words "gay" and "queer". You gay? Great, I'm totally cool with that! ...still using the words though. Get over it. [/rant] Sorry, but P.C. really grinds my gears Amen brother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdFireYYZ Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 QUOTE (Tarkus406 @ Jan 15 2011, 06:15 PM) You know...this whole political correctness thing....f**k it. JUST f**k IT! If I want to say gay, I WILL! Next thing we know, cops will be writing out tickets for using derogitory words because "oh boo hoo they offend people" Those people need to grow the f**k up and stop bitching and crying over f***ing WORDS. Honestly, shut up! I will say and do whatever I please and I'm not changing for anybody else! America should follow suit! Put the pledge of allegience back in schools (yes, with "GOD" in it!) I WILL use the words "gay" and "queer". You gay? Great, I'm totally cool with that! ...still using the words though. Get over it. [/rant] Sorry, but P.C. really grinds my gears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 ...and 26 years later at that. Timely bunch, those Canadians. What's next...a Beatles ban or disco record burning? Can't they at least target a song from this century?? ((Pssst, there's a radio version with that word dropped out, so just play that one.)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetaxe&saw Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 QUOTE (Cosy Toes @ Jan 15 2011, 12:14 AM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Jan 14 2011, 09:02 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jan 14 2011, 03:40 PM) What's the offending word then?? Not "*fagg*" is it?? gay is not only a meatball and gay is not only a cigarette. They're also derogatory terms for homosexual. This place is weird. Is it the forum for Canadian Rush fans? My dad used to f-a-g for David Cameron at Eton. Isn't life strange? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipYYZ Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 This is why Canada sucks. The US wouldn't even let this happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 QUOTE (Tarkus406 @ Jan 15 2011, 04:15 PM) You know...this whole political correctness thing....f**k it. JUST f**k IT! If I want to say gay, I WILL! Next thing we know, cops will be writing out tickets for using derogitory words because "oh boo hoo they offend people" Those people need to grow the f**k up and stop bitching and crying over f***ing WORDS. Honestly, shut up! I will say and do whatever I please and I'm not changing for anybody else! America should follow suit! Put the pledge of allegience back in schools (yes, with "GOD" in it!) I WILL use the words "gay" and "queer". You gay? Great, I'm totally cool with that! ...still using the words though. Get over it. [/rant] Sorry, but P.C. really grinds my gears I don't care if you use any of those words, but your usage of ZED instead of ZEE isn't working for me, buddy. You're an American for Christ's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xredsectorx Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (PhilipYYZ @ Jan 15 2011, 11:07 PM)This is why Canada sucks. The US wouldn't even let this happen. Yep, you got it. This place blows!! Edited January 16, 2011 by xredsectorx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 QUOTE (PhilipYYZ @ Jan 16 2011, 12:07 PM) This is why Canada sucks. The US wouldn't even let this happen. Are you joking? That crap could easily happen in the states Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarkus406 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 QUOTE (JohnnyBlaze @ Jan 16 2011, 01:01 AM) QUOTE (PhilipYYZ @ Jan 16 2011, 12:07 PM) This is why Canada sucks. The US wouldn't even let this happen. Are you joking? That crap could easily happen in the states Yes, and I'm surprised it hasn't already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosy Toes Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 QUOTE (Hatchetaxe&saw @ Jan 16 2011, 01:28 AM) QUOTE (Cosy Toes @ Jan 15 2011, 12:14 AM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Jan 14 2011, 09:02 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jan 14 2011, 03:40 PM) What's the offending word then?? Not "*fagg*" is it?? gay is not only a meatball and gay is not only a cigarette. They're also derogatory terms for homosexual. This place is weird. Is it the forum for Canadian Rush fans? My dad used to f-a-g for David Cameron at Eton. Isn't life strange? It so appears to be. The Moody Blues are a great bunch of Irons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetaxe&saw Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 QUOTE (Cosy Toes @ Jan 16 2011, 11:50 PM) QUOTE (Hatchetaxe&saw @ Jan 16 2011, 01:28 AM) QUOTE (Cosy Toes @ Jan 15 2011, 12:14 AM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Jan 14 2011, 09:02 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jan 14 2011, 03:40 PM) What's the offending word then?? Not "*fagg*" is it?? gay is not only a meatball and gay is not only a cigarette. They're also derogatory terms for homosexual. This place is weird. Is it the forum for Canadian Rush fans? My dad used to f-a-g for David Cameron at Eton. Isn't life strange? It so appears to be. The Moody Blues are a great bunch of Irons. Knew you'd get that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 QUOTE (Tarkus406 @ Jan 17 2011, 06:46 AM) QUOTE (JohnnyBlaze @ Jan 16 2011, 01:01 AM) QUOTE (PhilipYYZ @ Jan 16 2011, 12:07 PM) This is why Canada sucks. The US wouldn't even let this happen. Are you joking? That crap could easily happen in the states Yes, and I'm surprised it hasn't already. Well, I remember in the early 90s a Tom Petty lyric "roll another joint" was altered and morphed into various creatures that were ALL incomprehensible. War on drugs and evil Petty lyrics and all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Whompus Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Or they could ,you know, just change the station if they don't like the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarkus406 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 QUOTE (JohnnyBlaze @ Jan 17 2011, 06:26 AM) QUOTE (Tarkus406 @ Jan 17 2011, 06:46 AM) QUOTE (JohnnyBlaze @ Jan 16 2011, 01:01 AM) QUOTE (PhilipYYZ @ Jan 16 2011, 12:07 PM) This is why Canada sucks. The US wouldn't even let this happen. Are you joking? That crap could easily happen in the states Yes, and I'm surprised it hasn't already. Well, I remember in the early 90s a Tom Petty lyric "roll another joint" was altered and morphed into various creatures that were ALL incomprehensible. War on drugs and evil Petty lyrics and all My radio station must be really cool then because they let that slide and also the gay part of Money for Nothing. I dunno if anybody complains about it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USB Connector Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I find this just ridiculous. There are songs on the radio about abusing women, dealing drugs and murder while dropping the n-bomb and they're banning a song for using gay. Like King Whompus said, if you don't like what you hear, change the station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 QUOTE (usb_connector @ Jan 20 2011, 11:20 PM) Like King Whompus said, if you don't like what you hear, change the station. I don't disagree with this AT ALL. However, this opinion has NEVER worked (in regards to people agreeing and being satisfied that is) and WILL NEVER work in the way western culture generally works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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