RUSH Counterparts

[ColdFireYYZ]

QUOTE (shaun3701 @ Dec 1 2010, 02:04 PM)

it's a pentagram, Rush are Satan-worshippers

 

Its sad that people actually believe that.

[ReflectedLight]

QUOTE (King Whompus @ Dec 1 2010, 05:57 PM)

It's obviously 3 pac-men eating a triangle!

that's what i thought. waka waka waka waka

[JohnnyBlaze]

Fact is, there are no triangles in that pic...just the illusion of some

[tkdryan]

QUOTE (Nate2112 @ Dec 1 2010, 06:02 PM)

QUOTE (tkdryan @ Dec 1 2010, 11:54 AM) Its the cloak from the DEathly Hallows JK  That would be a neat tat   clever!   harry potter rules thanks man

[ALifeson85]

http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/downloads/wallpaper/CPback.jpg

 

Oh, come on people...it's obviously 3 Pac-Men eating a slice of pizza...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Maestro]

QUOTE (Lost In Xanadu @ Dec 1 2010, 12:35 PM)

http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/downloads/wallpaper/CPback.jpg I think it's just an optical illusion 2 triangles, not just 1!

In Gestalt Psychology, the 'illusion' is a Figure-Ground Relationship known as The Kanizsa Triangle...

 

Does it not seem the blue triangle (Figure) rest atop or upon the six circles and triangle? (Ground)

 

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http:/...biw=995&bih=483

[angel in my armor]

Every Rush album has some effigy that depicts the sum of 3...this represents the three members of the band.Check it out!...every album has something showing three of something...whether it's 3 red balls,three dice (on the dice from roll the bones the three is facing the camera)....Presto shows the three top hats I believe....and so on and so on...they have actually talked about this in a number of interviews...lastly the triangle is simply that,three points pointing to three yellow circles....

[Duck]

QUOTE (FoG @ Dec 1 2010, 02:54 PM)

Speaking of the back cover of Counterparts, has anyone tried to decode the binary on the back of the cover?

I never even thought about that until I read your post.

 

I took a quick look at the binary. I thought the simplest encoding might be ASCII. Each 8 bits is a byte...and each byte is a number that is mapped to a character.

 

So the beginning of the sequence looks like this in different bases...

[1010 1001] [0101 0110] [1001 1010] ... binary bytes  (base 2)
[ A9 ] [ 56 ] [ 9A ] ...same things in hexadecimal  (base 16)
[ 169 ] [ 86 ] [ 154 ] ...and in decimal  (base 10)

 

Now in an extended ASCII table (see http://www.plcdev.com/ascii_chart), these three bytes above at the beginning of the sequence convert to an underscore '_' followed by a 'V' and then something that looks like a U with an umlaut over it...

 

Not promising that this is ASCII as these first three characters seem nonsensical! I would have figured most of them would be letters and this would start out by spelling a word.

 

So then I was thinking it might still be ASCII, but the sequence is in the middle of a message, so that we might not be looking at the very beginning, but at some unknown offset into the message.

 

The most common letter in English is 'E', which looks like 0100 0101 in binary when ASCII encoded. I figured if I could find some E's in there, then I could easily continue the encoding sequnce on either side of it. But just scanning it once over, I don't see that sequence in there.

 

Bah!

 

 

[Nate2112]

QUOTE (King Whompus @ Dec 1 2010, 06:00 PM)

QUOTE (Nate2112 @ Dec 1 2010, 05:08 PM) permenent waves has nothing It has their names on some signs in the background. Are their three signs? nope no signs

[angel in my armor]

[ReflectedLight]

[Duck]

[micgtr71]

I don't remember seeing any binary code. I guess math class was a bit traumatic for me.

[ReflectedLight]

maybe that binary code was used to create pac man.

[Duck]

http://www.animatedgif.net/games/pacman-ln_e0.gif

 

[01GT Eibach]

The figure on the back of Counterparts is very well known in psychology circles. For those that took Psych 1 in college, you likely saw it there, too. It is used to demonstrate how the mind will interpret shapes that are not actually there. In this example, there are three pac-man shape circles and three sngles ... yet the mind extrapolates and interpoloates to see two full triangles.

[ReflectedLight]

QUOTE (01GT Eibach @ Dec 3 2010, 09:48 AM)

The figure on the back of Counterparts is very well known in psychology circles. For those that took Psych 1 in college, you likely saw it there, too. It is used to demonstrate how the mind will interpret shapes that are not actually there. In this example, there are three pac-man shape circles and three sngles ... yet the mind extrapolates and interpoloates to see two full triangles.

i don't remember much from psych 1.

[Derxst]

Perhaps it has no meaning.

[Presto-digitation]

I'm guessing the father/mother thing (counterparts) is the intended purpose, given the theme of the record....(relationships).

[Presto-digitation]

QUOTE (savagegrace26 @ Dec 1 2010, 03:04 PM)

http://kataragama.org/pix/hexagram_equation_400.gif Father principle+Mother principle=Divine Child Info: http://kataragama.org/research/cosmography.htm

Makes perfect sense to me.

[Duck]

Well, I looked at the code some more today. It isn't ASCII. I'm sadly getting the feeling it is just random bits which is a little disappointing. I even Googled up a binary ASCII to text web app to make testing snippets of the Counterparts binary code easier to check without going through it manually, but no luck. Looks like garbage in ASCII.

 

Anyway, here is a real message in binary ASCII, which should go well with a movie often seen during these times around Christmas...

 

010000100110010100100000011100110111010101110010011001
010010000001110100011011110010000001100100011100100110
100101101110011010110010000001111001011011110111010101
110010001000000100111101110110011000010110110001110100
01101001011011100110010100101110

[1 of the 7]

QUOTE (Duck @ Dec 3 2010, 04:59 PM)

I'm sadly getting the feeling it is just random bits which is a little disappointing.

Well, if the symbol on the album is meant to show that you'll see something that isn't there, maybe the binary is purposely gibberish, to reiterate the point that we're looking for something that isn't really there.

 

Meaning is still clever as all heck

[Per2112]

QUOTE (Nate2112 @ Dec 2 2010, 10:42 PM)

QUOTE (King Whompus @ Dec 1 2010, 06:00 PM) QUOTE (Nate2112 @ Dec 1 2010, 05:08 PM) permenent waves has nothing It has their names on some signs in the background. Are their three signs? nope no signs There names are on the signs on top off the buildings right to Paula Turnbull.   "The billboards in the distance were changed from Coca-Cola (who objected to the use of their logo) to include each band member's name in similar typestyle." Wikipedia

[furie]

QUOTE (Duck @ Dec 3 2010, 04:59 PM)

Well, I looked at the code some more today.  It isn't ASCII.  I'm sadly getting the feeling it is just random bits which is a little disappointing.  I even Googled up a binary ASCII to text web app to make testing snippets of the Counterparts binary code easier to check without going through it manually, but no luck.  Looks like garbage in ASCII. Anyway, here is a real message in binary ASCII, which should go well with a movie often seen during these times around Christmas...

Ha! I just ran it through a binary converter. I've been wondering what that meant that code meant for 15 years now.

 

and now i know how that kid felt!

Edited October 4, 2011 by furie

[ghostworks]

QUOTE (Nate2112 @ Dec 2 2010, 04:42 PM)

QUOTE (King Whompus @ Dec 1 2010, 06:00 PM) QUOTE (Nate2112 @ Dec 1 2010, 05:08 PM) permenent waves has nothing It has their names on some signs in the background. Are their three signs? nope no signs not much of a researcher, are you?   next time, you might take an album off the shelf before you make your proclamations   oh yeah, and as for those signs:   http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e129/4WAT/YETI/bd62dc86.jpg

Edited October 4, 2011 by ghostworks