Good,bad,andrush Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 QUOTE (Life is Just the Candle @ Feb 13 2011, 05:07 PM) Overrated - 2112. Such a crappy song. It's like a 5 year old wrote this piece of garbage. There was no skill or creativity in this piece of music and I don't see why everyone likes it. I can't even get past the first 30 seconds without changing the song. Underrated - Dog Years. Now here's a song I can relate to. When my dog died at age 12, I realized that in a dog's eyes, a year is really more like 7, because 7x12=84. 84 is a common age for people to die. I realized the genius in that line. And wouldn't you rather be a tortoise from Galapagos? Then you wouldn't die so early. This song made me realize who I was, and how one sniff at the hydrant, and the answer is automatic. It's hard to write these words like I'm serious. Are you serious? Dissing 2112 like that? And my dog died too. I think Dog Years is a great song...but if you're seriously implying that it's better than 2112...I don't think you understand how complex that song is, and how the message the song holds to the band and its fans. Sure, it probably gets a little overplayed, and other Rush epics may be better...but 2112 is not lacking skill or creativity. You go write something so complex if you honestly claim a 5-year-old can do it. I'm not mad at you or anything...but if you're seriously saying 2112 has no skill or creativity...something is just wrong with you, and for this, I am sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cygnus_thegodofbalance Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 QUOTE (Good,bad,andrush @ Feb 13 2011, 05:26 PM) QUOTE (Life is Just the Candle @ Feb 13 2011, 05:07 PM) Overrated - 2112. Such a crappy song. It's like a 5 year old wrote this piece of garbage. There was no skill or creativity in this piece of music and I don't see why everyone likes it. I can't even get past the first 30 seconds without changing the song. Underrated - Dog Years. Now here's a song I can relate to. When my dog died at age 12, I realized that in a dog's eyes, a year is really more like 7, because 7x12=84. 84 is a common age for people to die. I realized the genius in that line. And wouldn't you rather be a tortoise from Galapagos? Then you wouldn't die so early. This song made me realize who I was, and how one sniff at the hydrant, and the answer is automatic. It's hard to write these words like I'm serious. Are you serious? Dissing 2112 like that? And my dog died too. I think Dog Years is a great song...but if you're seriously implying that it's better than 2112...I don't think you understand how complex that song is, and how the message the song holds to the band and its fans. Sure, it probably gets a little overplayed, and other Rush epics may be better...but 2112 is not lacking skill or creativity. You go write something so complex if you honestly claim a 5-year-old can do it. I'm not mad at you or anything...but if you're seriously saying 2112 has no skill or creativity...something is just wrong with you, and for this, I am sad. I don't think you read the whole thread, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnals Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Overrated: The Manhattan Project--lyrically good, but can't wrap my head around this tune melodically. Underrated: Chain Lightning--something about it that makes it a great rocker for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todem Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (New World Kid @ Aug 29 2010, 11:04 AM) Overrated: The Fountain of Lamneth. I think people like this song, and give it more of a chance simply because of it's length, and it's historical significance in the Rush catalog. I'm not a huge fan of the longer songs anyway, but they all have their merits and are pretty solid pieces of music. But TFOL just seems like random clips of music shoved together, interspersed with a random drum solo, and given some lyrics that almost make a concept. It was a stepping stone, everyone gives it that... why do we have to enshrine this stepping stone with adulation and concert-requests? Underrated: Everyday Glory I just love this song lyrically. The point it drives home about how the world, which is an entirely messed up place, doesn't change until individuals begin to change it for themselves. "Though we live in trying times, we're the ones who have to try." That message kept the song in my top 5 for a long time. There was an interview with Neil I read once, where he says he doesn't think his lyrics are depressing, but are rather, "optimism with a bloody nose." I think this song perfectly embodies that. +1 Great post and my thoughts exactly on TFOL. AS far as underrated? Tai Shan - I have always loved this song. First of all it is a bold piece of music. The song truly takes me to China and the visuals of the mountain of Tai Shan are amazing. I love the lyrics. So visual and heartfelt. I always loved Alex's oriental guitar work and Neil's ambient drum and percussion kill and set the mood too. I think the keys are beautiful. I remember the first time I heard it on the virgin listen of HYF. I was floored....I could not believe the band that rocked 2112 were even capable of writing stuff like this (Power Windows also had this effect on me about Rush). For many fans....they dislike this period of the band, for me it only solidified why I loved them so much. And while this is the weakest tune on HYF (I love every song on this album) it is still a tremendous composition in my book. The band may not look back on it fondly....but I sure do. Edited February 14, 2011 by Todem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abaco Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Overrated: Spirit of Radio Underrated: Faithless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merely Space Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 over: Hemispheres. Musically, it's alright. Lyrically, it's pretty obvious. Overall, just sorta eh. under: Bravado. Simple, yet powerful music. Great lyrics. Amazing live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthshine Emmeline Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Overrated: Tom Sawyer Underrated: Cinderella Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good,bad,andrush Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 QUOTE (Merely Space @ Mar 12 2011, 09:33 AM) over: Hemispheres. Musically, it's alright. Lyrically, it's pretty obvious. Overall, just sorta eh. under: Bravado. Simple, yet powerful music. Great lyrics. Amazing live. I think both songs are underrated. Look at how perfectly hemispheres is played...every single note that is played is perfectly woven together, and you never know how to feel...a surge of emotion or logically impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USB Connector Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Overrated: The Trees. I do not understand why casual fans adore this piece so much. Yes, it's a good song and it is a lot of fun to play on Rock Band, but I find there are a lot more songs that deserve this kind of high praise before The Trees. Underrated: Scars, Hand Over Fist, half of VT. IMO these songs are great and deserve more attention. I also just think VT is overly disliked because of the audio clipping. If you can get past it (which IMO is pretty easy to do), you'll see some very good songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarJetman Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) Overrated: "Tom Sawyer". Never did like that one. Underrated: "How It Is", mainly by virtue of being on Vapor Trails. Edited March 12, 2011 by StellarJetman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disk98 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) The most underrated track in my book is Tai Shan. It is beautiful. I love the lyrics and the exotic music. I love Tai Shan, but the band clearly doesn't. Tom Sawyer is the most overrated Rush song ever. And don't get me wrong, I do like Tom Sawyer, but there are much better songs out there. What makes this one so special? Hemispheres is up there, too. Nothing special there, either. Edited March 7, 2015 by Disk98 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasbo Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Over-Spirit of RadioUnder-Hand Over Fist,Avaidable Light.Along with Presto and the Pass the best tracks on that album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas7 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Over rated : DreamlineUnder rated: Working them Angels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHandOSU Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Underrated- cold fire Overrated- red sector a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geodesicdomer Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Over: Fly By Night --- this composition just never came together for me --- good parts here and there but the chorus is average for Rush and just doesn't hold up as well as other Rush songs from this era. Under: The truly excellent Animate from CP. Actually, I think the first 3 songs from Counterparts are extremely underrated. That's 15 minutes of kick ass for any era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutlefan Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) Overrated: The Fountain of Lamneth. Don't dislike it but outside of No One at the Bridge I don't hear anything to get excited about. Maybe if it was shorter and the side ended with a great album closer (something like By-Tor and In the End on ATWAS) CoS would feel stronger to the non-believers. Underrated: High Water. Can't see why so many lump it with Tai Shan. Sounds like a really good melodious, down tempo song to me. I love the chorus, first at 1:40. I like the lyrics too. Honorable mention for underrated: How It Is. Crisp, clear, propulsive, alternating tempos, great melodies. Belies the claim that VT all sounds the same (of course some who don't like it complain that it doesn't "fit" on VT; if you're Rush it seems like you can't win sometimes). Edited March 7, 2015 by Rutlefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geddy's Soul Patch Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Most overrated: YYZ Most underrated: The Speed of Love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbobby10 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Overrated- Witch Hunt or The Camera Eye, I just don't get how people love them so much, they aren't bad, but its not amazing Underrated- Emotion Detector Emotion Detector is an amazing song, really grew to love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutlefan Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 "Overrated: The Trees. I do not understand why casual fans adore this piece so much. Yes, it's a good song and it is a lot of fun to play on Rock Band, but I find there are a lot more songs that deserve this kind of high praise before The Trees." It's the middle instrumental part, it's magical! Some think the lyrics are silly but they're clearly tongue in cheek, Neil having some uncharacteristic fun. But why the "casual fans" qualification? About every hardcore fan I've ever known loves the song. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) Overrated: Armor and Sword, The Pass, Bravado, The Fountain of Lamneth, Middletown DreamsUnderrated: The Enemy Within, The Anarchist, Ceiling Unlimited, Nocturne, Vital Signs Edited March 7, 2015 by laughedatbytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Over rated Tom Sawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Over rated Tom Sawyer.I don't think it's overrated. Overplayed? Yes. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Cub Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Over rated Tom Sawyer.I don't think it's overrated. Overplayed? Yes. I always scoff when I read people complain that Tom Sawyer or *insert song from PeW or MP* is overrated. While these songs are definitely overplayed and unfortunately overshadow the bulk of Rush's material on the radio, they're still some really kickass tunes. Tom Sawyer is one of Neil's best drum performances. Period. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 My dad says: Overrated: Big Money My dad has just never understood why this was a big hit of sorts and thinks it's not that great of a Rush. I say: Underrated: A Farewell To Kings Not that like anyone disses it, but it never get's enough attention. When I first heard the album it was my favorite song from the album...until I got to track six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket ignites Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Over: Force Ten - Not that I don't like it, but it just doesn't move me much. Under: Carve Away the Stone - Yeah, a deep cut, nothing groundbreaking...but I love to listen to this song.Under: Good News First - Gets stuck in my head in a good way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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