toolfansat Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 The other night at the Mohegan Sun show, when Geddy was playing keyboards and they were showing an overhead view of him on the video screen, I noticed red and green stickers on some of the keys on both his keyboards. Anyone know what they are for? My best guesses are: 1) Reference points for when he is switching between keys and bass (similar to the dots on a guitar fretboard). or 2) Indicators for keys that trigger samples... Anyone? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulio91184 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 due to the low light at times on stage, the fact that he is playing some sick bass line and singing all at the same time, they are reference points. If you look they are all on C keys which gives him a quicker acquisition of the correct notes to be played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djtess Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 QUOTE (toolfansat @ Jul 23 2010, 06:00 PM) The other night at the Mohegan Sun show, when Geddy was playing keyboards and they were showing an overhead view of him on the video screen, I noticed red and green stickers on some of the keys on both his keyboards. Anyone know what they are for? My best guesses are: 1) Reference points for when he is switching between keys and bass (similar to the dots on a guitar fretboard). or 2) Indicators for keys that trigger samples... Anyone? Thanks The Red and Green stickers remind Geddy of what it's like "Christmas in July".!!! It reminds him of all the money they are making from the high ticket prices they are charging.!! All the best to them!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliceintool Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 When I saw the stickers I was thinking sample triggers, cause it looked like he wasn't playing a single one of them while shredding all over like a madman! but they could just be references, which also makes just as much sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostworks Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (djtess @ Jul 23 2010, 06:12 PM) The Red and Green stickers remind Geddy of what it's like "Christmas in July".!!! Apparently, you forgot: Geddy Lee is a Jew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulp Fiction Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Old age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChroniclesOfRush Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (Paulio91184 @ Jul 23 2010, 06:07 PM) due to the low light at times on stage, the fact that he is playing some sick bass line and singing all at the same time, they are reference points. If you look they are all on C keys which gives him a quicker acquisition of the correct notes to be played Bingo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChroniclesOfRush Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (ghostworks @ Jul 23 2010, 07:32 PM) QUOTE (djtess @ Jul 23 2010, 06:12 PM) The Red and Green stickers remind Geddy of what it's like "Christmas in July".!!! Apparently, you forgot: Geddy Lee is a Jew. This f*ckin' guy...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenken Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 (edited) They are trigger notes. You'll notice if you watch their recent DVDs, he will hit them and an entire section of keys will play. Youll see him just holding that note while something is playing. I think its just because its probably too much for him to memorize at this point. Not only do they have to learn songs they dont listen to on a regular basis like we do, but he has to remember the lyrics, vocal melodies and basslines. Playing all the keys is a bit much I think, so he those dots are trigger notes. They are also reference points as someone mentioned, but thats not all they are. Edited July 24, 2010 by trenken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdouglas Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 I only saw them for a quick second and I'm no keyboard player really but it looked like the left hand was a C note, then there were 3 for the right hand C E and I forget what the third was..perhaps another C or a G...I didn't look at the screens much at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostworks Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (ChroniclesOfRush @ Jul 23 2010, 08:05 PM) QUOTE (ghostworks @ Jul 23 2010, 07:32 PM) QUOTE (djtess @ Jul 23 2010, 06:12 PM) The Red and Green stickers remind Geddy of what it's like "Christmas in July".!!! Apparently, you forgot: Geddy Lee is a Jew. This f*ckin' guy...... wait - you're not Jewish, too - are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Krinkle Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Left over dots from the Roy Clark Big Note song book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
test4eggroll Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (trenken @ Jul 23 2010, 08:09 PM) They are trigger notes. You'll notice if you watch their recent DVDs, he will hit them and an entire section of keys will play. Youll see him just holding that note while something is playing. I think its just because its probably too much for him to memorize at this point. Not only do they have to learn songs they dont listen to on a regular basis like we do, but he has to remember the lyrics, vocal melodies and basslines. Playing all the keys is a bit much I think, so he those dots are trigger notes. They are also reference points as someone mentioned, but thats not all they are. Does anyone consider that cheating? Isnt it similar to mili vanilli lip synching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Krinkle Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (test4eggroll @ Jul 24 2010, 11:28 AM) QUOTE (trenken @ Jul 23 2010, 08:09 PM) They are trigger notes. You'll notice if you watch their recent DVDs, he will hit them and an entire section of keys will play. Youll see him just holding that note while something is playing. I think its just because its probably too much for him to memorize at this point. Not only do they have to learn songs they dont listen to on a regular basis like we do, but he has to remember the lyrics, vocal melodies and basslines. Playing all the keys is a bit much I think, so he those dots are trigger notes. They are also reference points as someone mentioned, but thats not all they are. Does anyone consider that cheating? Isnt it similar to mili vanilli lip synching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightAntennae Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (test4eggroll @ Jul 24 2010, 11:28 AM) QUOTE (trenken @ Jul 23 2010, 08:09 PM) They are trigger notes. You'll notice if you watch their recent DVDs, he will hit them and an entire section of keys will play. Youll see him just holding that note while something is playing. I think its just because its probably too much for him to memorize at this point. Not only do they have to learn songs they dont listen to on a regular basis like we do, but he has to remember the lyrics, vocal melodies and basslines. Playing all the keys is a bit much I think, so he those dots are trigger notes. They are also reference points as someone mentioned, but thats not all they are. Does anyone consider that cheating? Isnt it similar to mili vanilli lip synching? No way! I'd much rather have the boys trigger samples than to have them "piped" in from an outside source. There is alot going on up there. Geddy is playing bass, doing vocals and playing keys with hands and feet. Both Alex and Neil are aslo very busy guys. Their music is so complicated that to pull off some of these songs live, they need triggered sounds. All three guys are responsible for triggering. I think one of the guys running the boards used to help with triggering, but I'm pretty sure it's now almost all done on stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliceintool Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 QUOTE (Paulio91184 @ Jul 23 2010, 06:07 PM) due to the low light at times on stage, the fact that he is playing some sick bass line and singing all at the same time, they are reference points. If you look they are all on C keys which gives him a quicker acquisition of the correct notes to be played actually I just saw a pic. of the keyboard, they aren't all C's. many of them aren't actually. so I think they are sample triggers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Sample Triggers for different songs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 QUOTE (test4eggroll @ Jul 24 2010, 11:28 AM) QUOTE (trenken @ Jul 23 2010, 08:09 PM) They are trigger notes. You'll notice if you watch their recent DVDs, he will hit them and an entire section of keys will play. Youll see him just holding that note while something is playing. I think its just because its probably too much for him to memorize at this point. Not only do they have to learn songs they dont listen to on a regular basis like we do, but he has to remember the lyrics, vocal melodies and basslines. Playing all the keys is a bit much I think, so he those dots are trigger notes. They are also reference points as someone mentioned, but thats not all they are. Does anyone consider that cheating? Isnt it similar to mili vanilli lip synching? Nope, not cheating. I've seen an interview somewhere where Ged said that the samples are all of sounds they have made, or played and then they trigger them all themselves at the right time. I would think that hitting those at the exact right time must not be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 (edited) Sorry - user error - double post Edited August 10, 2010 by MCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidSteel Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 The red dot is for when Alex screws up, it opens a trap door on the stage and then Alex is replaced by a robot. The green dot is for when Alex does right, and is rewarded with $$$ directly in to his bank account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 http://www.therushforum.com/index.php?showtopic=58580 explains a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Lerxst Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (trenken @ Jul 24 2010, 02:09 AM) They are trigger notes. You'll notice if you watch their recent DVDs, he will hit them and an entire section of keys will play. Its not just a recent thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVXMTNKIEak&feature=related Watch his left hand from 0:33 onwards. He changes note twice. I should point out, that the video is not a spoiler, its Mission from the Hold Your Fire tour. Edited August 10, 2010 by Sir Lerxst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 QUOTE (Sir Lerxst @ Aug 9 2010, 10:18 PM) QUOTE (trenken @ Jul 24 2010, 02:09 AM) They are trigger notes. You'll notice if you watch their recent DVDs, he will hit them and an entire section of keys will play. Its not just a recent thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVXMTNKIEak&feature=related Watch his left hand from 0:33 onwards. He changes note twice. I should point out, that the video is not a spoiler, its Mission from the Hold Your Fire tour. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E0m0Gcblp0 at 1 minute, you cant see it, but you know he's triggering the sequence of notes with one hit. They avoid showing his hands on the keys there. But who gives a crap - he's not trying (nor can one) to be a full fledged keyboardist and bassist at one time. The thing has always been, triggers OK, but as much as possible set in motion by them. Im sure youve seen the keyboard sequences even set into motion by Neil on the bloody drums. Its just the work of the three piece re-creating theyre layered multitrack shit form their albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Lerxst Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (lerxt1990 @ Aug 10 2010, 03:23 AM) QUOTE (Sir Lerxst @ Aug 9 2010, 10:18 PM) QUOTE (trenken @ Jul 24 2010, 02:09 AM) They are trigger notes. You'll notice if you watch their recent DVDs, he will hit them and an entire section of keys will play. Its not just a recent thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVXMTNKIEak&feature=related Watch his left hand from 0:33 onwards. He changes note twice. I should point out, that the video is not a spoiler, its Mission from the Hold Your Fire tour. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E0m0Gcblp0 at 1 minute, you cant see it, but you know he's triggering the sequence of notes with one hit. They avoid showing his hands on the keys there. But who gives a crap - he's not trying (nor can one) to be a full fledged keyboardist and bassist at one time. The thing has always been, triggers OK, but as much as possible set in motion by them. Im sure youve seen the keyboard sequences even set into motion by Neil on the bloody drums. Its just the work of the three piece re-creating theyre layered multitrack shit form their albums. I haven't got an issue with them sampling stuff, so long as they are done reasonably, and do not replace the guys... I mean, what is the point in there being a guitar sample, if the guitarist is left doing anything. I was just pointing out that sampling, is at least a 22 year practice for Rush. Edited August 10, 2010 by Sir Lerxst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maples Oaks and Porcupine Trees Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 QUOTE (LiquidSteel @ Aug 9 2010, 05:54 PM) The red dot is for when Alex screws up, it opens a trap door on the stage and then Alex is replaced by a robot. The green dot is for when Alex does right, and is rewarded with $$$ directly in to his bank account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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