RushFanForever Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 I was viewing both the John Rutsey and Neil Peart televised versions of 'Best I Can' Rush with John Rutsey Geddy seems less aggressive on the Rutsey version and seems to be playing it safe. I think Neil's aggressive drumming brought out a wilder edge to Geddy's singing and playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 The Rutsey footage is simply priceless. The true Holy Grail for Rush fans. The main difference is that John Rutsey is very laid back compared to Neil Peart. Neil Peart seems much more enthusiastic with a lot more energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the masked drummer Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 But of course... With a busier drum part, naturally the bass follows suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Rutsey version is weak. I could almost play it that well. Sorry, Rutsey fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadude69 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Rutsey version for me. His style suited the first album well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 QUOTE (the masked drummer @ Jul 16 2010, 01:39 PM) But of course... With a busier drum part, naturally the bass follows suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safetygirl2112 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 QUOTE (RushFanForever @ Jul 16 2010, 12:42 PM) I was viewing both the John Rutsey and Neil Peart televised versions of 'Best I Can' Rush with John Rutsey Rush with Neil Peart Geddy seems less aggressive on the Rutsey version and seems to be playing it safe. I think Neil's aggressive drumming brought out a wilder edge to Geddy's singing and playing. It could just be that he was less experienced on the Rutsey version, and a bit more practiced and confident when Neil joined later. Thanks for posting, that was interesting to compare! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadoood Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 This comparison is the perfect example of what Neil brought to the band. Neil really pushed Alex and geddy to become better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todem Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Love the footage and it also makes it so clear why Neil was brought in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Even though Neil Pearts version is much better! I'm going with John Rutsey's. Why? Because there wouldn't even Been A Rush if he would haven't lasted all those years with Geddy and Alex. After watching tHe documentary, I appreciate him much more. He wasn't a bad drummer. He was very influencial in Rush at the begining and we and Neil owe him alot! Who knows maybe if Neil was in there from the beginning he might have left after a few years even before Rush Debut album was recorded! Things happen for a Reason! Good Going John, We'll miss you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Necromancer_77 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Rutsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moedrabowsky Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 I think Geddy is more aggressive because by the time Neil got there, they had played the song about 1,000 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 QUOTE (moedrabowsky @ Jul 16 2010, 06:20 PM) I think Geddy is more aggressive because by the time Neil got there, they had played the song about 1,000 times. So his rhythm section partner has nothing to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlyJeff Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 QUOTE (ReRushed @ Jul 16 2010, 08:43 PM) QUOTE (moedrabowsky @ Jul 16 2010, 06:20 PM) I think Geddy is more aggressive because by the time Neil got there, they had played the song about 1,000 times. So his rhythm section partner has nothing to do with it? Obviously there are many reasons performances change, but experience with a song is probably the primary influence, IMO, with Neil being a strong second influence. Hands down the Peart drumming is better, but it's great to see how they got there and Rutsey is a large part of the Rush legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutman Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 While I respect Rutsey's ability. There is no comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moedrabowsky Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 QUOTE (SlyJeff @ Jul 16 2010, 08:48 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Jul 16 2010, 08:43 PM) QUOTE (moedrabowsky @ Jul 16 2010, 06:20 PM) I think Geddy is more aggressive because by the time Neil got there, they had played the song about 1,000 times. So his rhythm section partner has nothing to do with it? Obviously there are many reasons performances change, but experience with a song is probably the primary influence, IMO, with Neil being a strong second influence. Hands down the Peart drumming is better, but it's great to see how they got there and Rutsey is a large part of the Rush legacy. +1 Put it better than I could have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RushFanForever Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 Great feedback from everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
different strings Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Man it was so good just to watch that Rutsey clip as I have not yet seen the doco and I have seen very little of Rutsey. I must say that I did like his laid back style which was the general feel in the seventies but the song was much better with Neil playing it a year later. You could say that Neil's style was much more aggressive and "Busy" for a drummer in that era and he obviously joined the band at exactly the right time in RUSH's development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 I liked Rusteys lyrics better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg2112 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Wow, never saw this before. Very rare and cool. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Am I the only one that thinks that Rutsey was a hack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 QUOTE (tick @ Jul 19 2010, 08:08 PM) Am I the only one that thinks that Rutsey was a hack? 'Hack' would be a pretty harsh word given that he was still just a kid that recorded only 1 album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 QUOTE (JohnnyBlaze @ Jul 19 2010, 07:36 AM) QUOTE (tick @ Jul 19 2010, 08:08 PM) Am I the only one that thinks that Rutsey was a hack? 'Hack' would be a pretty harsh word given that he was still just a kid that recorded only 1 album. It is a harsh word. I think he was well below average. To play with two guys like Geddy and Alex, yes he was a hack. and Neil was a kid also when he recorded his first album, but he was great on it. That is the reality of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 QUOTE (tick @ Jul 19 2010, 09:11 PM) QUOTE (JohnnyBlaze @ Jul 19 2010, 07:36 AM) QUOTE (tick @ Jul 19 2010, 08:08 PM) Am I the only one that thinks that Rutsey was a hack? 'Hack' would be a pretty harsh word given that he was still just a kid that recorded only 1 album. It is a harsh word. I think he was well below average. To play with two guys like Geddy and Alex, yes he was a hack. and Neil was a kid also when he recorded his first album, but he was great on it. That is the reality of it. Another reality is that Peart makes many seasoned drummers look like amateurs. Even in his earliest RUSH days Neil was inhuman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 QUOTE (JohnnyBlaze @ Jul 19 2010, 08:43 AM) QUOTE (tick @ Jul 19 2010, 09:11 PM) QUOTE (JohnnyBlaze @ Jul 19 2010, 07:36 AM) QUOTE (tick @ Jul 19 2010, 08:08 PM) Am I the only one that thinks that Rutsey was a hack? 'Hack' would be a pretty harsh word given that he was still just a kid that recorded only 1 album. It is a harsh word. I think he was well below average. To play with two guys like Geddy and Alex, yes he was a hack. and Neil was a kid also when he recorded his first album, but he was great on it. That is the reality of it. Another reality is that Peart makes many seasoned drummers look like amateurs. Even in his earliest RUSH days Neil was inhuman I understand that but I think my drummer was about as good as Rutsey. He just wasn't that good. He wasn't a hack if he was playing in my band because we were a bar band. He was a hack to be playing with two of the all time greats, IMHO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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