trenken Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (PariahDog @ Jun 29 2010, 01:07 PM) Remember the Rush Petition, where fans vote for songs they want to hear live? http://www.rushpetition.com/results.shtml It looks like Rush will be playing three of the top ten picks: The Camera Eye 1934 37.8% Jacob's Ladder 1505 29.4% Hemispheres 1154 22.6% A Farewell To Kings 864 16.9% Fly By Night 754 14.8% Middletown Dreams 740 14.5% Marathon 699 13.7% Kid Gloves 628 12.3% The Weapon 552 10.8% Presto 541 10.6% Sure, it would be nice to have a couple more of these instead of SIO and LTTA. But still, we're getting three of the top ten, including the #1 pick. But some fans are ready to sell their tickets because we're not getting #1 AND #2? I go see a band because I like the songs they play. If play play stuff ive seen on the last 5 tours, with a few new additions, why would I spend my money? I dont have some devotion to Rush like others where they are happy to see them play anything. They are just a band to me, one of the many that I like. If they dont play enough songs I want to see, then I wont go. Nothing wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazyyz Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 If this is the actual setlist. Sorry but it's a piece of shit with only a few gems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (PariahDog @ Jun 29 2010, 01:22 PM) QUOTE (metaldad @ Jun 29 2010, 01:10 PM) That is because Al said they were. If they do it, will be fanfuckingtastic. If not, 24 more threads on how much they suck . Only a few hrs now Maybe the lesson is, Rush should never talk about the setlist. I remember there was a similar meltdown when they talked about revamping the second leg of the S&A tour, but only swapped out two songs. But, seriously, I've never bought a concert ticket with the expectation or requirement of hearing a single song. Is this really just about JL, or were folks honestly expecting to hear Necromancer, Lamneth, AFTK, etc.? Good point. For me it is JL but more of why Subdivisions and not another song from that album ? I do think the song order if it stays, is weak . I also can't see them skipping over so many albums . I still have a little hope this set gets changed a tiny bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PariahDog Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (PariahDog @ Jun 29 2010, 01:07 PM)Remember the Rush Petition, where fans vote for songs they want to hear live? http://www.rushpetition.com/results.shtml It looks like Rush will be playing three of the top ten picks: The Camera Eye 1934 37.8% Jacob's Ladder 1505 29.4% Hemispheres 1154 22.6% A Farewell To Kings 864 16.9% Fly By Night 754 14.8% Middletown Dreams 740 14.5% Marathon 699 13.7% Kid Gloves 628 12.3% The Weapon 552 10.8% Presto 541 10.6% Sure, it would be nice to have a couple more of these instead of SIO and LTTA. But still, we're getting three of the top ten, including the #1 pick. But some fans are ready to sell their tickets because we're not getting #1 AND #2? EDIT: Just noticed that Faithless is also on the list (#27), surprisingly ahead of many that have been mentioned in this thread: Faithless 354 6.9% Cinderella Man 338 6.6% Chemistry 309 6.0% Grand Designs 308 6.0% The Fountain of Lamneth 289 5.7% Freeze 284 5.6% Everyday Glory 273 5.3% The Body Electric 269 5.3% Different Strings 263 5.1% Lock And Key 242 4.7% Turn The Page 240 4.7% Alien Shore 202 4.0% In The Mood 200 3.9% Scars 192 3.8% Maybe Rush knows what they're doing after all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenken Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (amish_ashaman @ Jun 29 2010, 01:29 PM) QUOTE (trenken @ Jun 29 2010, 12:46 PM) QUOTE (danielmclark @ Jun 29 2010, 12:39 PM) QUOTE (amish_ashaman @ Jun 29 2010, 11:26 AM) If they started playing deeper stuff, a lot of older fans who haven't bothered to come see them in years would come crawling out of the woodwork. Right, because the people who couldn't be bothered to support the band in the 30 years since Moving Pictures... those are really the people you want to cater to. Do you have any idea what you just said? Its not about catering to them, its more about keeping them around by playing a couple oldies here and there, stuff pre PeW, and imnot talking about playing 2112 for the 4000th time. Stuff off of FBN, CoS, 2nd side of 2112, AFTK, Hemispheres, I get much more excited to hear that stuff than anything after PeW. Im sick of moving pictures, they play almost the entire album on every tour anyway. I said that strictly from a business perspective. Personal example: I am a photographer. I shoot weddings, portraits, commercial and editorial stuff. If I have a regular client that likes the way I shoot and keeps coming back, that is good for business. The trick is to keep people who like the way I shoot but also evolve enough so that I pick up new clients. As I evolve/change, some of the older clients may slip away if they don't like the new stuff I'm doing. Take Photoshop actions for instance. That may not mean anything to you, but a lot of stuff that is hot right now uses Photoshop in ways we didn't used to, to produce photos where the colors are really vivid and blown out, sometimes to the point of seeming almost ethereal. Some of my older clients that liked the way I shot plain old black & white don't like this stuff. So do I just let them walk, or do I step back and give them a little of what they want, yet still trying to find ways to also do what I want. I don't follow WWE wrestling, but I am familiar with some of it, and I once saw an interview with Vince McMahon that really stuck with me. he said "Our fans will tell us what they want, and by God, we are going to listen!" I do find it amusing that Neil thinks listening to the old stuff is like looking at drawings he did in kindergarten. WTF? I kind of understand what Neil is saying. I used to play a lot of talent shows when I was young, and I cant watch the videos of them now. Its so painfully embarrassing, but the difference is I dont have a million people that love those talent show videos. There are more people in this world that love Rush from the first album-MP, than people who like the stuff after that more. Well they are giving us MP, which the play most of on every tour anyway, and really not much of the real old stuff at all, which is what I like more as a Rush fan, FBN-MP is Rush to me, anything after that is just a bonus that Ill never view as being nearly as good. Well aside from playing 2112 and their hits off of PeW/MP, everything else is ignored just because they are bored of it, even though a massive part of their fanbase likes old rush more than new rush. I dont get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amish_ashaman Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (Supersyl @ Jun 29 2010, 01:04 PM) I always say that the biggest problem with Rush is that they are not Rush fans....... POST...OF...THE...DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagegrace26 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 (edited) Amount of Pre-1990 songs played per last few tours. It's actually pretty consistent. VAPOR TRAILS TOUR (17) Tom Sawyer Distant Early Warning New World Man YYZ The Pass The Big Money The Trees Vital Signs/Freewill Natural Science Red Sector A 2112: Overture/The Temples Of Syrinx Limelight La Villa Strangiato The Spirit Of Radio By-Tor And The Snow Dog Cygnus X-1: Book I: The Voyage Working Man R30 TOUR (16) The Spirit Of Radio Force Ten Subdivisions Red Barchetta YYZ The Trees Tom Sawyer Between The Wheels Mystic Rhythms Red Sector A 2112 Overture/The Temples Of Syrinx/Grand Finale La Villa Strangiato By-Tor & The Snow Dog Xanadu Working Man Limelight S&A TOUR (16-17) Limelight Digital Man Entre Nous Mission Freewill Red Barchetta Circumstances/The Trees Between The Wheels Subdivisions Natural Science Witch Hunt Distant Early Warnings The Spirit of Radio Tom Sawyer A Passage to Bangkok YYZ ALLEGED TIME MACHINE TOUR (17) The Spirit of Radio Time Stand Still Presto Freewill Marathon Subdivisions Tom Sawyer Red Barchetta YYZ Limelight The Camera Eye Witch Hunt Vital Signs Closer to the Heart 2112 Overture/Temples of Syrinx La villa Strangiato Working Man Edited June 29, 2010 by savagegrace26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielmclark Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (trenken @ Jun 29 2010, 01:33 PM) Well they are giving us MP, which the play most of on every tour anyway, and really not much of the real old stuff at all, which is what I like more as a Rush fan... I've heard this said a lot in relation to the setlist, even before we knew of it, when all we knew was that they'd be playing MP in its entirety. So, it got me thinking. Have they really played almost the whole thing on every tour? I went to the Wikipedia pages for tours going back to Roll the Bones: RTB Limelight Tom Sawyer Red Barchetta Vital Signs (replacement track) CP Limelight Tom Sawyer YYZ TFE Red Barchetta Tom Sawyer YYZ VT Tom Sawyer YYZ Vital Signs (swapped with Freewill for some dates) Limelight R30 Red Barchetta YYZ Tom Sawyer Limelight S&A (2007) Limelight Witch Hunt Tom Sawyer YYZ S&A (2008) Limelight Red Barchetta Witch Hunt Tom Sawyer YYZ So, at best, they played 5/8ths of MP two years ago. On average, they play 3/8ths or 1/2 of it. Not taking a shot at you, it just got me curious. So there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 All of Moving Pictures is HUGE. You got Vital Signs and Camera Eye for heaven's sakes. Leave That Thing Alone. Their best instrumental from the nineties. Very good live. From the 70s, we get Closer To The Heart (will be nice to hear live again and to sing along to)... La Villa Strangiato, 2112, and Working Man (all 3 of which are crushingly good live) Deep cuts like Faithless and Presto. The latter of which will be very interesting to hear live. Those who dig the synth-era (like myself) should be delighted to get Time Stand Still and Marathon. MARATHON! An ass-kicker of a tune with a sick guitar solo and a sweet galloping bassline. ALWAYS nice to hear Red Barchetta and Subdivisions. You can't argue... those are a couple of their best songs ever. Then you have timeless classics like Tom Sawyer, Limelight, The Spirit Of Radio, YYZ, Freewill... weird how some fans here have become desensitized to the genius and greatness of these tunes. All this with the usual great stage production we've come to expect. I see yet another awesome tour, another awesome show that I get to witness. Another show from one of the greatest bands in rock history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoenataArctica Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 I like the setlist, and even if i didnt like the setlist i would still go because it's still Rush. the only song i'm not as thrilled to hear is Stick It Out, but by golly, i will still sing along and air drum, air guitar, etc to my favorite band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Does anyone here besides me think 3 instrumentals is 1 too many 2 would have been just fine imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushman14 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (metaldad @ Jun 29 2010, 11:56 AM) Does anyone here besides me think 3 instrumentals is 1 too many 2 would have been just fine imo I'm still hoping for Malnar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (metaldad @ Jun 29 2010, 01:56 PM) Does anyone here besides me think 3 instrumentals is 1 too many 2 would have been just fine imo Makes sense to me. Rush craft very good instrumentals. From a musicianship standpoint, they're all damn good. Playing 3 this time around makes sense cuz Geddy's voice needs its rest. I would rather not have another Alex solo (unless its a face-melting La Villa intro) but I understand its necessity for Neil's sake. That old bastard needs to rest his arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amish_ashaman Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (danielmclark @ Jun 29 2010, 01:50 PM) QUOTE (trenken @ Jun 29 2010, 01:33 PM) Well they are giving us MP, which the play most of on every tour anyway, and really not much of the real old stuff at all, which is what I like more as a Rush fan... I've heard this said a lot in relation to the setlist, even before we knew of it, when all we knew was that they'd be playing MP in its entirety. So, it got me thinking. Have they really played almost the whole thing on every tour? I went to the Wikipedia pages for tours going back to Roll the Bones: RTB Limelight Tom Sawyer Red Barchetta Vital Signs (replacement track) CP Limelight Tom Sawyer YYZ TFE Red Barchetta Tom Sawyer YYZ VT Tom Sawyer YYZ Vital Signs (swapped with Freewill for some dates) Limelight R30 Red Barchetta YYZ Tom Sawyer Limelight S&A (2007) Limelight Witch Hunt Tom Sawyer YYZ S&A (2008) Limelight Red Barchetta Witch Hunt Tom Sawyer YYZ So, at best, they played 5/8ths of MP two years ago. On average, they play 3/8ths or 1/2 of it. Not taking a shot at you, it just got me curious. So there's that. There are 7 songs, not 8 on MP. Edited June 29, 2010 by amish_ashaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amish_ashaman Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (savagegrace26 @ Jun 29 2010, 01:48 PM) Amount of Pre-1990 songs played per last few tours. It's actually pretty consistent. VAPOR TRAILS TOUR (17) Tom Sawyer Distant Early Warning New World Man YYZ The Pass The Big Money The Trees Vital Signs/Freewill Natural Science Red Sector A 2112: Overture/The Temples Of Syrinx Limelight La Villa Strangiato The Spirit Of Radio By-Tor And The Snow Dog Cygnus X-1: Book I: The Voyage Working Man R30 TOUR (16) The Spirit Of Radio Force Ten Subdivisions Red Barchetta YYZ The Trees Tom Sawyer Between The Wheels Mystic Rhythms Red Sector A 2112 Overture/The Temples Of Syrinx/Grand Finale La Villa Strangiato By-Tor & The Snow Dog Xanadu Working Man Limelight S&A TOUR (16-17) Limelight Digital Man Entre Nous Mission Freewill Red Barchetta Circumstances/The Trees Between The Wheels Subdivisions Natural Science Witch Hunt Distant Early Warnings The Spirit of Radio Tom Sawyer A Passage to Bangkok YYZ ALLEGED TIME MACHINE TOUR (17) The Spirit of Radio Time Stand Still Presto Freewill Marathon Subdivisions Tom Sawyer Red Barchetta YYZ Limelight The Camera Eye Witch Hunt Vital Signs Closer to the Heart 2112 Overture/Temples of Syrinx La villa Strangiato Working Man People keep talking about the stuff on MP as being oldies that we are getting in addition to the other stuff. I keep looking at this like they are touring for MP, so in my mind, I don't necessarily include it in the conversations about old stuff we're going to hear on this tour, because, yeah, obviously we're going to hear stuff from the album they are touring for. I look at it like the rest of the set ought to be more evenly dispersed. If you go back through all of those older setlists and don't include the songs from "the album they are touring for", the others still have 16-17 pre-1990 songs, where this set only has 10. Not saying that's a right or wrong way to look at it...just an observation on the way my mind subconsciously processes this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theworkingman Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (metaldad @ Jun 29 2010, 10:56 AM) Does anyone here besides me think 3 instrumentals is 1 too many 2 would have been just fine imo I said this a while ago. Definitely my biggest gripe with the set list. 3 instrumentals plus 2 solos. and four if they include Mal Nar. As much as I enjoy Leave That Thing Alone they really can't find a better song to put in its place? Edited June 29, 2010 by theworkingman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mountaineeroflamneth Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 yada yada yada, blah blah blah, still sound great to me, the only strange selection to me is faithless, it kind of drags along, would have rather they broke out with we hold on but I don't really care, RUSH in 6 freak'n hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielmclark Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (amish_ashaman @ Jun 29 2010, 02:05 PM) QUOTE (danielmclark @ Jun 29 2010, 01:50 PM) QUOTE (trenken @ Jun 29 2010, 01:33 PM) Well they are giving us MP, which the play most of on every tour anyway, and really not much of the real old stuff at all, which is what I like more as a Rush fan... I've heard this said a lot in relation to the setlist, even before we knew of it, when all we knew was that they'd be playing MP in its entirety. So, it got me thinking. Have they really played almost the whole thing on every tour? I went to the Wikipedia pages for tours going back to Roll the Bones: RTB Limelight Tom Sawyer Red Barchetta Vital Signs (replacement track) CP Limelight Tom Sawyer YYZ TFE Red Barchetta Tom Sawyer YYZ VT Tom Sawyer YYZ Vital Signs (swapped with Freewill for some dates) Limelight R30 Red Barchetta YYZ Tom Sawyer Limelight S&A (2007) Limelight Witch Hunt Tom Sawyer YYZ S&A (2008) Limelight Red Barchetta Witch Hunt Tom Sawyer YYZ So, at best, they played 5/8ths of MP two years ago. On average, they play 3/8ths or 1/2 of it. Not taking a shot at you, it just got me curious. So there's that. There are 7 songs, not 8 on MP. Absolutely right. Thanks for catching my mistake. I could say it was a typo, but honestly, I'd simply been mixed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagegrace26 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 (edited) The real problem with the setlist is why the hell are they playing Presto so early in the set? With it's magical dreamy feel and all of the references to the night (constellations, midnight, tonight, etc) it should be played under a canopy of stars. There could be a nice glowing starry magical light show (with some silver and blue) to go with it. Really, this is the one song I've always wanted them to play live, and they are just brushing it off so early. dam. Edited June 29, 2010 by savagegrace26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse2112 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 I really like both sets of the Time Machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeminiRising79 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 I hope they change it to something more diverse...I will certainly attend should this happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (GeminiRising79 @ Jun 29 2010, 03:23 PM) I hope they change it to something more diverse...I will certainly attend should this happen. They won't, because Neil Peart hates you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Quixote Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Let's also not forget the possibility that The Camera Eye could be truncated and or changed up according to Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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