Grace Under Pressure Tour - Concert Streaming on Youtube

[chemistry1973]

1 hour ago, Timbale said:

So, here's a question for the folks who understand editing better than I think I do.

 

So there are three situations present in this release as I can see it:

 

1) performances from the same night as the original VHS release, reedited, 

2) performances from the other night, covering songs that were on the original, and

3) songs that weren't on the original release.

 

There is not much to be done with #3 - the footage there is is what there is.  But with both #1 and #2, I'm confused.  For the songs that are the same performances as on the VHS, given that the new angles/editing seems so thin on footage of Peart, why are they not flying in more footage of Neil from the original cut, seeing as it's sync pretty much perfectly.  And in the second case, why are they not dropping in footage of Peart from Sept 21st even if the new performance on this edition is the 22nd?  I mean, it wouldn't necessarily sync perfectly...but, given Neil's relative consistency as a player, it would sync a hell of a lot better than some of the random stuff they've dropped in.  I mean, my god, there's a shot of him playing the electronic back kit during a song when he's playing the front acoustic kit.  I can't remember what that song/moment is, but why go to that shot at all?  And if it's in a song that they released from Sept 21st, why not just drop a shot from the pervious night there that would sync pretty well?  Do these questions make sense?

 

It’s possible that some of the master footage is no longer available from the original concert VHS.

 

It’s possible back in 1984 the selected footage was separated from the rest of the raw footage, which was probably sent to storage somewhere. The selected master video had to be color corrected and synced to finalized mixed and mastered audio. 
 

Maybe they didn’t have the available master footage to up-res, color correct and match to the found footage from those other two shows.

 

Another theory could be that there was just a tremendous amount of footage to transfer upload digitally and to bring to say an avid editing system. Three shows multiple cameras that is hours of footage to go through and perhaps there wasn’t enough budget to properly go through all of it.

Edited March 18 by chemistry1973

[TheGhostRider]

17 hours ago, chemistry1973 said:

It’s possible that some of the master footage is no longer available from the original concert VHS.

 

It’s possible back in 1984 the selected footage was separated from the rest of the raw footage, which was probably sent to storage somewhere. The selected master video had to be color corrected and synced to finalized mixed and mastered audio. 
 

Maybe they didn’t have the available master footage to up-res, color correct and match to the found footage from those other two shows.

 

Another theory could be that there was just a tremendous amount of footage to transfer upload digitally and to bring to say an avid editing system. Three shows multiple cameras that is hours of footage to go through and perhaps there wasn’t enough budget to properly go through all of it.

3 shows? Cygnus X-1 says Rush only played 2 nights at the Garden on the tour. I’m not going by the band’s website since it’s known to be filled with inaccuracies . 

Edited March 19 by TheGhostRider

[chemistry1973]

1 hour ago, TheGhostRider said:

3 shows? Cygnus X-1 says Rush only played 2 nights at the Garden on the tour. I’m not going by the band’s website since it’s known to be filled with inaccuracies . 

I think maybe one of those dates might’ve been a date for shooting with no audience. No way to know for sure though.

 

 

[TheGhostRider]

3 hours ago, chemistry1973 said:

I think maybe one of those dates might’ve been a date for shooting with no audience. No way to know for sure though.

 

 

It’s hard to imagine Rush when they were pretty established to shoot in an empty venue like the old days, but I guess it’s possible. If that was indeed the case for part of the shoot, they did a good job hiding it. 

Edited March 19 by TheGhostRider

[chemistry1973]

29 minutes ago, TheGhostRider said:

It’s hard to imagine Rush when they were pretty established to shoot in an empty venue like the old days, but I guess it’s possible. If that was indeed the case for part of the shoot, they did a good job hiding it. 

It’s a total armchair theory on my part. I do remember when I first saw the video way back in the day that there are some shots that really caught me by surprise as to how staged they look.
 

Like when we see count Floyd super imposed on the video screen behind the band and the audience clapping in front of it that can’t possibly be at a live performance. It’s a locked camera shot onto the screen so that they can super impose the video since the cameras, exposure settings wouldn’t catch the playback video normally. 
 

We know Peart hated having cameraman on stage during live performances. When they shot lock and key live for their music video, he lost his mind when the camera crew walked onto the stage to catch the band.

 

Now, if somebody can produce a bootleg that matches the original 1984 VHS well then that blows my theory out of the water.

 

But I think it’s possible that the life performance that we see from the 1984 VHS is partially a canned performance.

 

There are a lot of moving camera shots in the 1984 release. A lot of great shots of NP on the kit. But when we get white shots, I don’t think we see any cameras on stage or any cranes.

Edited March 19 by chemistry1973

[TheGhostRider]

10 hours ago, chemistry1973 said:

It’s a total armchair theory on my part. I do remember when I first saw the video way back in the day that there are some shots that really caught me by surprise as to how staged they look.
 

Like when we see count Floyd super imposed on the video screen behind the band and the audience clapping in front of it that can’t possibly be at a live performance. It’s a locked camera shot onto the screen so that they can super impose the video since the cameras, exposure settings wouldn’t catch the playback video normally. 
 

We know Peart hated having cameraman on stage during live performances. When they shot lock and key live for their music video, he lost his mind when the camera crew walked onto the stage to catch the band.

 

Now, if somebody can produce a bootleg that matches the original 1984 VHS well then that blows my theory out of the water.

 

But I think it’s possible that the life performance that we see from the 1984 VHS is partially a canned performance.

 

There are a lot of moving camera shots in the 1984 release. A lot of great shots of NP on the kit. But when we get white shots, I don’t think we see any cameras on stage or any cranes.

Your wish is my command. I was able to successfully sync this audience boot from the first show (9/21) to Witch Hunt from the Old VHS and DVD release. It's a perfect match. But the video has definitely been edited slightly. When Geddy yells at 4:20 in the video, he is not singing on the tape, so that part is definitely from the 9/22 show. But basically everything else is night 1. The tape ran too fast so I had to slow it down and pitch correct it to get it to sound like the actual release.  For the first half of the song, the tape ran 2.52% too fast, and for the second half, it ran 2.15% too fast. It was a pain in the ass to sync, but fun.

Enjoy!

 

 

Edited March 20 by TheGhostRider

[fraroc]

4 hours ago, TheGhostRider said:

Your wish is my command. I was able to successfully sync this audience boot from the first show (9/21) to Witch Hunt from the Old VHS and DVD release. It's a perfect match. But the video has definitely been edited slightly. When Geddy yells at 4:20 in the video, he is not singing on the tape, so that part is definitely from the 9/22 show. But basically everything else is night 1. The tape ran too fast so I had to slow it down and pitch correct it to get it to sound like the actual release.  For the first half of the song, the tape ran 2.52% too fast, and for the second half, it ran 2.15% too fast. It was a pain in the ass to sync, but fun.

Enjoy!

 

 

 

Also keep in mind that Ged might have re-recorded some of those vocal parts in the studio. Being a home release, the original GUP live defintiley had some touch-ups done to make it sound more perfect.

For example during the Weapon when Geddy accidentally sang "He's not afraid of your problem" instead of "He's not afraid of your judgement" in this new version. That was easily fixed with some studio overdubs or spliced-in audio from the first or third Toronto date. 

[chemistry1973]

8 hours ago, TheGhostRider said:

Your wish is my command. I was able to successfully sync this audience boot from the first show (9/21) to Witch Hunt from the Old VHS and DVD release. It's a perfect match. But the video has definitely been edited slightly. When Geddy yells at 4:20 in the video, he is not singing on the tape, so that part is definitely from the 9/22 show. But basically everything else is night 1. The tape ran too fast so I had to slow it down and pitch correct it to get it to sound like the actual release.  For the first half of the song, the tape ran 2.52% too fast, and for the second half, it ran 2.15% too fast. It was a pain in the ass to sync, but fun.

Enjoy!

 

 

thanks for doing that. Yeah watching it now, I don’t know WHAT I was thinking.

[lerxt1990]

On 3/18/2026 at 6:28 PM, treeduck said:

Ever got caught air-drumming naked?

Just one time you get caught air drumming to the "spaz" middle eight of Freewill naked on the bar at O'Sheas bar and your stereotyped for life!

[ytserush]

On 3/16/2026 at 1:11 PM, James Bond said:

I love the raw intensity of this particular Subdivisions. Neil changing up some fills, Geddy having some cool variations on the melody, and the increased tempo. Makes for a pretty raw performance of a synth-driven song by a band usually so exacting. A mighty refreshing version of my favourite tune.

Listen the Hawaii and Largo soundboards....

[ytserush]

On 3/17/2026 at 7:41 AM, Ron2112 said:

Will note that as a subtext to the whole video discussion, it's cool (to me) that the video we all grew up with is not rendered obsolete by this new Bluray.  There's still a reason to go back and dig out the DVD if you want to watch the original camera shots.

Don't know about anyone else, but that video/audio was NEVER going to be rendered obsolete!

 

Spent way too much time with it for one thing and I knew the new version was never going to come close as much as I enjoy the new Frankenstein version.  The surprise for me that a lot of the original video was not used either by choice or necessity.

 

[ytserush]

On 3/18/2026 at 6:28 PM, treeduck said:

Ever got caught air-drumming naked?

I'll never get over Macho Grande!

[ytserush]

On 3/18/2026 at 7:46 PM, chemistry1973 said:

It’s possible that some of the master footage is no longer available from the original concert VHS.

 

It’s possible back in 1984 the selected footage was separated from the rest of the raw footage, which was probably sent to storage somewhere. The selected master video had to be color corrected and synced to finalized mixed and mastered audio. 
 

Maybe they didn’t have the available master footage to up-res, color correct and match to the found footage from those other two shows.

 

Another theory could be that there was just a tremendous amount of footage to transfer upload digitally and to bring to say an avid editing system. Three shows multiple cameras that is hours of footage to go through and perhaps there wasn’t enough budget to properly go through all of it.

Could this be related to the UMG fire?

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/25/magazine/universal-music-fire-bands-list-umg.html

[ytserush]

On 3/19/2026 at 1:25 PM, TheGhostRider said:

3 shows? Cygnus X-1 says Rush only played 2 nights at the Garden on the tour. I’m not going by the band’s website since it’s known to be filled with inaccuracies . 

 

 

Wandering The Face Of The Earth, Rush Chronology and "Mereley Players" say it's only two nights.

And if you want to take my word for it, that's been my understanding since the it was originally broadcast.

[ytserush]

On 3/19/2026 at 6:26 PM, chemistry1973 said:

It’s a total armchair theory on my part. I do remember when I first saw the video way back in the day that there are some shots that really caught me by surprise as to how staged they look.
 

Like when we see count Floyd super imposed on the video screen behind the band and the audience clapping in front of it that can’t possibly be at a live performance. It’s a locked camera shot onto the screen so that they can super impose the video since the cameras, exposure settings wouldn’t catch the playback video normally. 
 

We know Peart hated having cameraman on stage during live performances. When they shot lock and key live for their music video, he lost his mind when the camera crew walked onto the stage to catch the band.

 

Now, if somebody can produce a bootleg that matches the original 1984 VHS well then that blows my theory out of the water.

 

But I think it’s possible that the life performance that we see from the 1984 VHS is partially a canned performance.

 

There are a lot of moving camera shots in the 1984 release. A lot of great shots of NP on the kit. But when we get white shots, I don’t think we see any cameras on stage or any cranes.

Wouldn't Floyd Witch Hunt and Distant Early Warning have been done in post production?

[chemistry1973]

1 hour ago, ytserush said:

Wouldn't Floyd Witch Hunt and Distant Early Warning have been done in post production?

It’s that locked off shot though. Definitely looks shot at a different time than a live performance. But I could be wrong they might’ve had a locked camera there the whole time through the show.

[Lurkst]

On 3/16/2026 at 6:24 PM, TheGhostRider said:

New World Man - Missing intro, probably copyright??

 

 

Nice post, but what was the missing intro?

[lerxt1990]

On 3/18/2026 at 9:02 AM, fraroc said:

It was also a pretty common practice in the 70s and 80s to "trim the fat" off of home release concert videos so they clock in at about an hour or maybe a little bit more. Van Halen's Live Without a Net is still missing You Really Got Me, Dreams, Good Enough, and their cover of Wild Thing to this day. We're pretty lucky that the rest of GUP live unsurfaced. 

Trimming YYZ and the drum solo out of the ESL video made me cry.  lol

[lerxt1990]

15 hours ago, ytserush said:

I'll never get over Macho Grande!

You were over unger and unger was over dunne.  lol.

[lerxt1990]

16 hours ago, ytserush said:

Listen the Hawaii and Largo soundboards....

Any free/easy way to listen to that?

[TheAnarchist2112]

25 minutes ago, lerxt1990 said:

Any free/easy way to listen to that?

they're on youtube!

[Claude_verret]

1 hour ago, TheAnarchist2112 said:

they're on youtube!

 

 

 

 

[Pressure/Hopenosis]

On 3/20/2026 at 4:32 AM, TheGhostRider said:

Your wish is my command. I was able to successfully sync this audience boot from the first show (9/21) to Witch Hunt from the Old VHS and DVD release. It's a perfect match. But the video has definitely been edited slightly. When Geddy yells at 4:20 in the video, he is not singing on the tape, so that part is definitely from the 9/22 show. But basically everything else is night 1. The tape ran too fast so I had to slow it down and pitch correct it to get it to sound like the actual release.  For the first half of the song, the tape ran 2.52% too fast, and for the second half, it ran 2.15% too fast. It was a pain in the ass to sync, but fun.

Enjoy!

 

 

Thanks 🤓! If not for you my inner Sheldon would never rest!

[lerxt1990]

17 hours ago, Claude_verret said:

 

 

 

 

I swear to you I searched for this and didnt find it, maybe i used the words soundbaord.. lol.

[ytserush]

On 3/22/2026 at 5:25 AM, Lurkst said:

 

Nice post, but what was the missing intro?

A comedy bit from the TV show Get Smart with Don Adams and Barbara Feldon.