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[exiled yorkie]

This is why you should never jump on tickets, you should always wait till the dust settles. You have to have some big balls though. It always works. TM loves FOMO. They know exactly how to get people to buy overpriced crap seats. Pre sale, Platinum. VIP, etc etc.

[TheHonestMan]

16 minutes ago, exiled yorkie said:

This is why you should never jump on tickets, you should always wait till the dust settles. You have to have some big balls though. It always works. TM loves FOMO. They know exactly how to get people to buy overpriced crap seats. Pre sale, Platinum. VIP, etc etc.

 

Waiting only really works if you're unconcerned with where your seats are. I try to be in the first 10 rows for most shows I attend, and in the first 3 rows for at least 1 show. Usually on Geddy's side.

 

In the past, this was achievable at face value (or at least close to it) if you planned ahead of time and were fast to checkout when tickets first went on sale.

 

But now, you'll pay scalper prices for those close seats no matter what. It either goes to Ticketmaster now or scalpers later. I don't see how waiting changes that unless we're expecting scalper prices to fall to less than 1/3 of what they are now.

[exiled yorkie]

2 hours ago, TheHonestMan said:

 

Waiting only really works if you're unconcerned with where your seats are. I try to be in the first 10 rows for most shows I attend, and in the first 3 rows for at least 1 show. Usually on Geddy's side.

 

In the past, this was achievable at face value (or at least close to it) if you planned ahead of time and were fast to checkout when tickets first went on sale.

 

But now, you'll pay scalper prices for those close seats no matter what. It either goes to Ticketmaster now or scalpers later. I don't see how waiting changes that unless we're expecting scalper prices to fall to less than 1/3 of what they are now.

More times than not I have been up very close using this technique. I would say around 75% success rate. Often at less than original ticket price.

Edited October 23, 2025 by exiled yorkie

[TheHonestMan]

1 minute ago, exiled yorkie said:

More times than not I have been up very close using this technique. I would say around 75% success rate.

Interesting. Where are you getting the tickets? Box office the day of? Resale sites?

 

I usually check TM daily starting 2 weeks before the show, and I almost never see better seats released. I know it can happen, but they get snatched up immediately.

[exiled yorkie]

26 minutes ago, TheHonestMan said:

Interesting. Where are you getting the tickets? Box office the day of? Resale sites?

 

I usually check TM daily starting 2 weeks before the show, and I almost never see better seats released. I know it can happen, but they get snatched up immediately.

usually anywhere from 2-3 days before to day of show.

[GabesCavesOfIce]

20 hours ago, zappafrank said:

You're just never gonna let this go, are you?  Every time there is discussion about the rollout, you make it a point to say that this was all a calculated nefarious plan by ne'er-do-wells Geddy and Alex who have been scheming for 5 years since Neil's death for this exact moment to unleash their dastardly plan upon the hapless sheep of the world who can't help but be blinded by blind loyalty and brainwashing into serving as soul sacrifices for two men who clearly care more about money than they do honoring some grief-infused comments about never playing again.

 

Is that a direct quote or are you embellishing?

 

FFS if you need to make up crap about others, maybe its because your opinion is weak.

 

They were dishonest in how they rolled out the onsale dates to maximize travel pack and vip sales. Good for you to decide to lie to yourself about that. If I see a fannie gaslighting, sure as sh!t I have the right to reply

 

 

[GabesCavesOfIce]

4 hours ago, TheHonestMan said:

 

Waiting only really works if you're unconcerned with where your seats are. I try to be in the first 10 rows for most shows I attend, and in the first 3 rows for at least 1 show. Usually on Geddy's side.

 

In the past, this was achievable at face value (or at least close to it) if you planned ahead of time and were fast to checkout when tickets first went on sale.

 

But now, you'll pay scalper prices for those close seats no matter what. It either goes to Ticketmaster now or scalpers later. I don't see how waiting changes that unless we're expecting scalper prices to fall to less than 1/3 of what they are now.

 

 

Not sure anyone not landing vips in the initial onsale is getting anywhere near those ten rows, at least in nyc.

 

Looking at msg resale on TM and a couple broker sites i see no tickets first 20 rows, including the first few full view sections each side.

 

Thats the extent of the volume of vip sales, because iirc they are not transferable

 

 

[ZachenFoot]

8 minutes ago, GabesCavesOfIce said:

 

Is that a direct quote or are you embellishing?

 

FFS if you need to make up crap about others, maybe its because your opinion is weak.

 

They were dishonest in how they rolled out the onsale dates to maximize travel pack and vip sales. Good for you to decide to lie to yourself about that. If I see a fannie gaslighting, sure as sh!t I have the right to reply

 

 

Boy the word "gaslighting" has really lost all weight and meaning huh

[exiled yorkie]

13 minutes ago, GabesCavesOfIce said:

 

 

Not sure anyone not landing vips in the initial onsale is getting anywhere near those ten rows, at least in nyc.

 

Looking at msg resale on TM and a couple broker sites i see no tickets first 20 rows, including the first few full view sections each side.

 

Thats the extent of the volume of vip sales, because iirc they are not transferable

 

 

NO, its called holding tickets back till closer to show date. These include production holds etc etc. Tickets that dont sell at vip prices almost always go back on general sale at lower ticket prices.

[TheHonestMan]

36 minutes ago, GabesCavesOfIce said:

 

 

Not sure anyone not landing vips in the initial onsale is getting anywhere near those ten rows, at least in nyc.

 

Looking at msg resale on TM and a couple broker sites i see no tickets first 20 rows, including the first few full view sections each side.

 

Thats the extent of the volume of vip sales, because iirc they are not transferable

 

 

 

Fyi, the VIP tickets themselves can in fact be transferred on TM. I did it with my wife's ticket without issue. What cannot be transferred are the VIP benefits that go along with the ticket, as those stay under the original account name.

 

That doesn't matter if you're all going together, but it does if you are reselling a ticket.

 

20 minutes ago, exiled yorkie said:

NO, its called holding tickets back till closer to show date. These include production holds etc etc. Tickets that dont sell at vip prices almost always go back on general sale at lower ticket prices.

 

I'm sure you're right to some extent. But I was totally shocked at how many close seats were available during both pre release sales. Entire rows were up for sale, almost every seat a VIP. And they slowly disappeared as the sale went on.

 

This process has been very different compared to prior tours.

Edited October 23, 2025 by TheHonestMan

[GabesCavesOfIce]

21 hours ago, exiled yorkie said:

NO, its called holding tickets back till closer to show date. These include production holds etc etc. Tickets that dont sell at vip prices almost always go back on general sale at lower ticket prices.

 

NOT on this tour, at least msg. The vips sold in minutes. Maybe band and industry tickets yes, but for in-demand shows like this, New York City is a completely different animal, and they did nothing to address that in their routing of shows

[TheHonestMan]

I just tried on the Detroit Citi presale. Was hoping I could sneak a PayPal checkout but they had it locked down to only citi credit cards. A shame, I had 2x Limelights in the cart.

 

But looking at the seat map, it felt like EVERYTHING was on sale in the first few rows. Seriously some rows would have available seats stretch from one side of the arena to the other, almost all VIP. Not looking good for the artist presale on Monday. Totally nuts.

 

 

[Lurkst]

Took a nosey at the Montreal presale out of interest.

 

Very much quieter, only 800 in the queue.

 

Found a few fabled $150CAD seats, right up the back of the hall.

 

Similar to the base price at Toronto you're looking at $500CAD for lower bowl or rear floor, closer to £1000CAD around the stage (non VIP).

 

 

 

 

Edited October 24, 2025 by Lurkst

[yyz311]

I was lucky and landed one Limelight VIP in Florida.  I'm so stoked.

 

Everything else at the Hard Rock that night is sold out.

[exiled yorkie]

46 minutes ago, GabesCavesOfIce said:

 

NOT on this tour, at least msg. The vips sold in minutes. Maybe band and industry tickets yes, but for in-demand shows like this, New York City is a completely different animal, and they did nothing to address that in their routing of shows

No they didnt. As I just said tickets are and will continue to be held back. It's the nature of the beast. No show is ever "sold out". You can convince yourself otherwise but go to TM close to day of show and you will see what I'm talking about.

[GabesCavesOfIce]

4 minutes ago, exiled yorkie said:

No they didnt. As I just said tickets are and will continue to be held back. It's the nature of the beast. No show is ever "sold out". You can convince yourself otherwise but go to TM close to day of show and you will see what I'm talking about.

 

Too much money to be made on this. VIPs sold in an instant. As I said perhaps there will be industry and band tickets released for MSG but the VIPs are gone, regarding first ten rows

 

 

Edit, if we're basing what we think is going on based on experience, I'd caution. Because I haven't seen this before in the Rock concert industry. Not Bruce, not the stones, I saw Rows and Rows within the first 10 rows at MSG disappear for $2,500 in front of my eyes. If they're going to pass up hundreds of thousands of dollars per row for the first 10 rows that's pretty mind-blowing

Edited October 24, 2025 by GabesCavesOfIce

[78jazz]

On 10/22/2025 at 1:09 PM, That One Guy said:

and maybe the shows won't be 150 minutes of song time.

I thought the initial video suggested something along the lines of 2 hour shows.

[BastillePark]

I like how the first sentence is, "Our fans are the best!" which is code for, holy shit we're going to make a lot of money from these people. 

[78jazz]

On 10/22/2025 at 11:50 AM, TheHonestMan said:

No Kansas City,

 

I don't love this either since I live there, but I am hard pressed to think that 30-40,000 deep show up for 2 shows here. 

 

As it stands, my closest stop for this tour is about 500 miles one way. I am not sure how many shows I will catch this time around. It may be 3 at the max. I thought I was headed to only one but there is a group of guys in the city I am from planning to run out to Chicago so I may be joining up with them (my son and I are probably headed to Fort Worth. He was born right around the time Neil was diagnosed and wants to see Geddy and Alex at least do Rush songs).

[TheGhostRider]

16 minutes ago, BastillePark said:

I like how the first sentence is, "Our fans are the best!" which is code for, holy shit we're going to make a lot of money from these people. 

The Ticketmaster comment in the recent video certainly didn't help much. I will definitely see them this tour but I'm playing the waiting game on tickets. 

[GabesCavesOfIce]

21 minutes ago, BastillePark said:

I like how the first sentence is, "Our fans are the best!" which is code for, holy shit we're going to make a lot of money from these people. 

Thanks for making me feel better spending all this money

[TheGhostRider]

I still think Ged and Al aren't trying to intentionally squeeze every penny out of us fans, but their lack of any real comment on the whole fiasco is not helping. 

[GabesCavesOfIce]

2 minutes ago, TheGhostRider said:

I still think Ged and Al aren't trying to intentionally squeeze every penny out of us fans, but their lack of any real comment on the whole fiasco is not helping. 

 

They may be oblivios to it, or got convinced to do it this way by their new mgmt

 

The prices hurt my butt but others charge this and more.  Saying its a limited City run while they are loading up on packages.... while they had 40 new dates lined up.... just smells bad

[Lurkst]

Looked at the Edmonton presale there. Loads available, similar prices to Montreal.

I did find a few floor seats in the front 20 rows for $500CAD which weren't seen at other venues I've checked out.

 

[ZachenFoot]

12 minutes ago, TheGhostRider said:

I still think Ged and Al aren't trying to intentionally squeeze every penny out of us fans, but their lack of any real comment on the whole fiasco is not helping. 

Commenting is the worst thing they can do. It removes their plausible deniability and nobody would be happy with it. 

 

Also, what could they even say?

Edited October 24, 2025 by ZachenFoot