Losing hope for anymore more boxed sets

[caskof43]

Looks less and less likely that we will see any of the following:

40th anniversary of Grace Under Pressure or Power Windows

50th anniversary of Fly By Night or Caress of Steel

Are they just out of live material and other goodies or don’t see the point for these albums? Either way I’m bummed that the tap appears to be running dry. 

Edited May 11, 2025 by caskof43
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[Nova Carmina]

1 hour ago, caskof43 said:

Looks less and less likely that we will see any of the following:

40th anniversary of Grace Under Pressure or Power Windows

50th anniversary of Fly By Night or Caress of Steel

Are they just out of live material and other goodies or don’t see the point for these albums? Either way I’m bummed that the tap appears to be running dry. 

 

But we were assured more stuff was forthcoming! The Anniversary Boxset That Was Promised is surely just around the corner! Keep the faith! In the meantime, would you be interested in these expensive repackagings of previously released material? 

[grep]

Nah, p/g 40 will come out. They're just waiting for Hugh to coax some crappy art out of Chat GPT.

It'll be a CD/Vinlyl reissue with 12 colorful pages of stories we already know about the band and photos we've already seen. A mousephad with a re-imagining of the album cover (chat GPT). 

 

The best part will be a egg in a vice thumbdrive with a digital copy of the album.

 

$79.99

$299.99 for Alex and Ged's autographs,

[zepphead]

There is little point in releasing any more boxes unless there is something worthwhile to fill them with.

 

[Timbale]

I feel like we're just at a place, anniversary-wise, where we are past the point of the Rush albums that have a broader appeal.  I can imagine a collector-type person who has the box sets for, say, Rumours and Born To Run adding Permanent Waves or Moving Pictures (or even maybe Signals) to their collection... but Grace Under Pressure?  I think from 1984 on we are in "niche Rush" territory, where the albums sold well but didn't have an impact on the larger pop world.  I was frankly surprised that the seemed to be going forward with the GUP box at all.

[treeduck]

This is why people who are RUSH fans and TULL fans are better off. You get all your box set fixes from TULL and the box set quality and quantity of stuff is way above the RUSH ones. Plus you don't have all that new Hugh Syme "artwork" polluting the packages, stick to the original artwork Hugh! And the TULL box sets keep on flowing, the tap is never going to run dry here baby! 

[Nova Carmina]

3 hours ago, Timbale said:

 I was frankly surprised that the seemed to be going forward with the GUP box at all.

 

That "seemed" is doing a lot of work there. Always felt pretty chimeric. 

[Holdyourfireal]

7 hours ago, Timbale said:

I feel like we're just at a place, anniversary-wise, where we are past the point of the Rush albums that have a broader appeal.  I can imagine a collector-type person who has the box sets for, say, Rumours and Born To Run adding Permanent Waves or Moving Pictures (or even maybe Signals) to their collection... but Grace Under Pressure?  I think from 1984 on we are in "niche Rush" territory, where the albums sold well but didn't have an impact on the larger pop world.  I was frankly surprised that the seemed to be going forward with the GUP box at all.

And, as usual, the Terry Brown Era Only fans have to make their opinions known and dismiss the fact that plenty of us fans started with Rush AFTER the Terry Brown era was over. For example, I'm almost 57. My first new release Rush album was Grace Under Pressure so you better believe I'm in line for a 40th Anniversary Edition.

[Digital82]

3 hours ago, Holdyourfireal said:

And, as usual, the Terry Brown Era Only fans have to make their opinions known and dismiss the fact that plenty of us fans started with Rush AFTER the Terry Brown era was over. For example, I'm almost 57. My first new release Rush album was Grace Under Pressure so you better believe I'm in line for a 40th Anniversary Edition.

good, 'cause it's comin'

[chemistry1973]

11 hours ago, Timbale said:

I feel like we're just at a place, anniversary-wise, where we are past the point of the Rush albums that have a broader appeal.  I can imagine a collector-type person who has the box sets for, say, Rumours and Born To Run adding Permanent Waves or Moving Pictures (or even maybe Signals) to their collection... but Grace Under Pressure?  I think from 1984 on we are in "niche Rush" territory, where the albums sold well but didn't have an impact on the larger pop world.  I was frankly surprised that the seemed to be going forward with the GUP box at all.

Nailed it.

[Nova Carmina]

10 hours ago, Holdyourfireal said:

And, as usual, the Terry Brown Era Only fans have to make their opinions known and dismiss the fact that plenty of us fans started with Rush AFTER the Terry Brown era was over. For example, I'm almost 57. My first new release Rush album was Grace Under Pressure so you better believe I'm in line for a 40th Anniversary Edition.

 

I'm (virtually) right there with you, and I'd be in line, too. If it were happening.

[Nova Carmina]

7 hours ago, Digital82 said:

good, 'cause it's comin'

 

Yeah, so you've been saying for about a year. Assertions made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, with apologies to Mr. Hitchens.

[tangy]

6 hours ago, chemistry1973 said:

Nailed it.

Yep

I have to believe if it would be lucrative,  they would go for it.

I do think the demand lessens after signals.

 

The sad fact is we are aging every day. I imagine more rush fans die every year than new fans are created.

[PurpleHayes]

18 hours ago, treeduck said:

This is why people who are RUSH fans and TULL fans are better off. You get all your box set fixes from TULL and the box set quality and quantity of stuff is way above the RUSH ones. Plus you don't have all that new Hugh Syme "artwork" polluting the packages, stick to the original artwork Hugh! And the TULL box sets keep on flowing, the tap is never going to run dry here baby! 

 

Tull at least knew how to do a boxset right...their 20th Anniversary one being the best example. Three discs, only one of which had the standard versions of songs you would have heard already in their original form. The other two discs had live versions and outtakes/B-sides that no one had ever heard. Many of those B-sides were actually better than what was on the original albums (Broadsword And the Beast being a case in point). That boxset also had an awesome full-size booklet with pictures and stories...and no lame experimental 'artwork.' Tull definitely knows how to put out a better boxset than those clowns at Anthem.

 

The Police's Message In A Box is another example. It includes the five studio albums they did plus about 30 live versions and B-sides/unreleased tracks, and just like Tull one has to wonder why some of those B-sides were not put on the albums. Seriously, 'Someone To Talk To' would have been a far superior track on Synchronicity than 'Mother.' It's sad that this group didn't produce any more than five albums, but that's because they couldn't share the same room for more than 15 minutes without resorting to blows.

 

I have a feeling any GUP 40th Anniversary will be just as lame as the Signals one. What can they provide that isn't already available? It's not like Rush has 50 unreleased songs sitting in the vaults...they were not prolific in that way like Tull and the Police.

 

I doubt Rush even has any unreleased 'funny' outtakes like "Cop Killer" or "Sit On My Face" laying about either.

Edited May 13, 2025 by PurpleHayes

[starscreamsrevenge]

I'm starting to think GUP 40 isn't coming either :( :(

 

As chance would have it, I'm spinning the Japanese standalone release of "Signals", and the OBI lists the release date as 31.5.23 

 

I know I've mentioned before about the "41st Anniversary" releases due to Covid, but nearly two years since "Signals" was released, and we're not even hearing any rumblings that it's in the pipeline. 

 

Do we all agree that if GUP isn't released as a 40th or 41st set, then the series is done? 

 

Surely, they wouldn't restart it for "Power Windows" would they?? If so, why was GUP skipped over? It doesn't make sense if they do restart it for an unspecified album IMO

[starscreamsrevenge]

10 hours ago, Digital82 said:

good, 'cause it's comin'

 

@Digital82 I get that release plans are secret, but surely after a year of saying this, could you not at least just tell us if it will be definitely released in 2025?

 

Purely a "yes" or "no" here will satisfy me personally, the details are what press releases are for!!! :) :)

[Timbale]

14 hours ago, Holdyourfireal said:

And, as usual, the Terry Brown Era Only fans have to make their opinions known and dismiss the fact that plenty of us fans started with Rush AFTER the Terry Brown era was over. For example, I'm almost 57. My first new release Rush album was Grace Under Pressure so you better believe I'm in line for a 40th Anniversary Edition.

The first Rush album I bought with my own money was Grace Under Pressure, and the first concert I ever saw was the P/G tour in Toronto, so I am far from a "Terry Brown Era Only" fan.  You make it seem like I was saying NO ONE likes anything after Signals.  That is very clearly not what I was saying.  I was talking about the broader appeal of a band that hit the mainstream consciousness for a few years and then reseeded from it.  I think that's a valid opinion to share on a chat forum.

[BanterFromTheCosmos]

On 5/13/2025 at 11:30 AM, starscreamsrevenge said:

I'm starting to think GUP 40 isn't coming either :( :(

 

As chance would have it, I'm spinning the Japanese standalone release of "Signals", and the OBI lists the release date as 31.5.23 

 

I know I've mentioned before about the "41st Anniversary" releases due to Covid, but nearly two years since "Signals" was released, and we're not even hearing any rumblings that it's in the pipeline. 

 

Do we all agree that if GUP isn't released as a 40th or 41st set, then the series is done? 

 

Surely, they wouldn't restart it for "Power Windows" would they?? If so, why was GUP skipped over? It doesn't make sense if they do restart it for an unspecified album IMO

Here's the thing. I think with everything from AFTK up to MP, there were confirmations in interviews from either Alex, Hugh Syme, Terry Brown, or Andy Curran (depending on the album) that a deluxe was on the way. Hell, Permanent Waves 40 got revealed during Cinema Strangiato back in 2019. Signals is the first one that never got hinted at; the announcement and box just kind of showed up without much fanfare (understandable given it had zero unreleased live content). There hasn't been a peep from any of them regarding Grace Under Pressure either, which I don't think helps the situation. A simple update from Alex, Hugh, or someone at the label acknowledging that a P/G set is in the works would do wonders in alliviating our pessimism if it's indeed happening. Unless I see an announcement or somebody in official circles actually acknowledge it, I've decided to remain skeptical for now.

Edited May 14, 2025 by BanterFromTheCosmos

[BanterFromTheCosmos]

8 hours ago, PurpleHayes said:

I have a feeling any GUP 40th Anniversary will be just as lame as the Signals one. What can they provide that isn't already available? It's not like Rush has 50 unreleased songs sitting in the vaults...they were not prolific in that way like Tull and the Police.

I have to admit, if P/G 40 turned out just like Signals where all we get is an Atmos mix, a bunch of 45s, and no concert, that'd arguably be more depressing than not putting out a set at all.

Edited May 13, 2025 by BanterFromTheCosmos

[grep]

10 hours ago, tangy said:

 

The sad fact is we are aging every day. I imagine more rush fans die every year than new fans are created.

Yeah thanks for the bummer there, sunshine.  LOL.

Got any more reality check nuggets for us aging X-ers?    :) 

[tangy]

35 minutes ago, grep said:

Yeah thanks for the bummer there, sunshine.  LOL.

Got any more reality check nuggets for us aging X-ers?    :) 

Just be grey your own way...

Edited May 13, 2025 by tangy

[snowdog2112]

On 5/12/2025 at 12:50 PM, Timbale said:

I feel like we're just at a place, anniversary-wise, where we are past the point of the Rush albums that have a broader appeal.  I can imagine a collector-type person who has the box sets for, say, Rumours and Born To Run adding Permanent Waves or Moving Pictures (or even maybe Signals) to their collection... but Grace Under Pressure?  I think from 1984 on we are in "niche Rush" territory, where the albums sold well but didn't have an impact on the larger pop world.  I was frankly surprised that the seemed to be going forward with the GUP box at all.

 

I don't think broad appeal has any relevance whatsoever with these things. No casual "I only like Moving Pictures" fan buys collector's box sets in the first place. These things for ALL big legacy bands sell in the few thousands to a few tens of thousands. There's virtually no crossover between mainstream fans and those who will spend hundreds to get a full GUP or PW show. And I'm confident GUP40 is coming. The 50th box set was just released in March, gotta space them out. I wouldn't be concerned unless we don't hear anything by early October.

Edited May 14, 2025 by snowdog2112

[BanterFromTheCosmos]

21 minutes ago, snowdog2112 said:

 

I don't think broad appeal has any relevance whatsoever with these things. No casual "I only like Moving Pictures" fan buys collector's box sets in the first place. These things for ALL big legacy bands sell in the few thousands to a few tens of thousands. There's virtually no crossover between mainstream fans and those who will spend hundreds to get a full GUP or PW show. And I'm confident GUP40 is coming. The 50th box set was just released in March, gotta space them out. I wouldn't be concerned unless we don't hear anything by early October.

I think there'd definitely be some sales from the pre-Signals/GUP/whatever-only crowd that'd still buy future sets specifically for the concerts (if they're included). Or maybe not, but it wouldn't surprise me at all.

[Digital82]

On 5/13/2025 at 11:35 AM, starscreamsrevenge said:

 

@Digital82 I get that release plans are secret, but surely after a year of saying this, could you not at least just tell us if it will be definitely released in 2025?

 

Purely a "yes" or "no" here will satisfy me personally, the details are what press releases are for!!! :) :)

yes. definitely.

[Holdyourfireal]

On 5/14/2025 at 11:59 PM, Digital82 said:

yes. definitely.

Another "In the Know" source told us months ago to expect in in Spring and that never happened so I'm skeptical of seeing this in 2025 at all at this point.