Second Hand Grace Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Rush fans don't like the last line of Totem, it comes from a Christian song, and they need Rush to be athiest's. I am A Thiest. I've got 12 disciples and a Buddha smile Garden of Allah, Viking Valhalla A miracle once in a while I've got a pantheon of animals in a pagan soul Vishnu and Gaia, Aztec and Maya Dance around my totem pole Totem pole I believe in what I see, I believe in what I hear I believe that what I'm feeling changes how the world appears Hou-ho, ho-ho, ho Hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho Angels and demons dancing in my head (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho) Lunatics and monsters underneath my bed (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho) Media messiahs preying on my fears (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho) Pop culture prophets playing in my ears (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho) Hou-ho, ho-ho, ho Hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho I've got celestial mechanics to synchronize my stars Seasonal migrations, daily variations World of the unlikely and bizarre I've got idols and icons, unspoken holy vows Thoughts to keep well hidden sacred and forbidden Free to browse among the holy cows That's why I believe I believe in what I see, I believe in what I hear I believe that what I'm feeling changes how the world appears Angels and demons dancing in my head (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho) Lunatics and monsters underneath my bed (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho) Media messiahs preying on my fears (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho) Pop culture prophets playing in my ears (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho) Angels and demons dancing in my head (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho) Lunatics and monsters underneath my bed (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho) Media messiahs preying on my fears (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho) Pop culture prophets playing in my ears Angels and demons inside of me Saviors and satans all around me Angels and demons (and demons) inside of me All around me I believe in what I see, I believe in what I hear I believe that what I'm feeling changes how the world appears Hou-ho, ho-ho, ho Hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho Angels and demons dancing in my head (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho) Lunatics and monsters underneath my bed (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho) Angels and demons dancing in my head (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho) Lunatics and monsters underneath my bed (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho) Hou-ho, ho-ho, ho Hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho Sweet chariot, swing low (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho) Coming for me (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastillePark Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 2 minutes ago, Second Hand Grace said: Rush fans don't like the last line of Totem, it comes from a Christian song, and they need Rush to be athiest's. I am A Thiest. I've got 12 disciples and a Buddha smile Garden of Allah, Viking Valhalla A miracle once in a while I've got a pantheon of animals in a pagan soul Vishnu and Gaia, Aztec and Maya Dance around my totem pole Totem pole I believe in what I see, I believe in what I hear I believe that what I'm feeling changes how the world appears Hou-ho, ho-ho, ho Hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho Angels and demons dancing in my head (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho) Lunatics and monsters underneath my bed (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho) Media messiahs preying on my fears (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho) Pop culture prophets playing in my ears (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho) Hou-ho, ho-ho, ho Hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho I've got celestial mechanics to synchronize my stars Seasonal migrations, daily variations World of the unlikely and bizarre I've got idols and icons, unspoken holy vows Thoughts to keep well hidden sacred and forbidden Free to browse among the holy cows That's why I believe I believe in what I see, I believe in what I hear I believe that what I'm feeling changes how the world appears Angels and demons dancing in my head (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho) Lunatics and monsters underneath my bed (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho) Media messiahs preying on my fears (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho) Pop culture prophets playing in my ears (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho) Angels and demons dancing in my head (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho) Lunatics and monsters underneath my bed (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho) Media messiahs preying on my fears (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho) Pop culture prophets playing in my ears Angels and demons inside of me Saviors and satans all around me Angels and demons (and demons) inside of me All around me I believe in what I see, I believe in what I hear I believe that what I'm feeling changes how the world appears Hou-ho, ho-ho, ho Hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho Angels and demons dancing in my head (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho) Lunatics and monsters underneath my bed (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho) Angels and demons dancing in my head (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho) Lunatics and monsters underneath my bed (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho) Hou-ho, ho-ho, ho Hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho Sweet chariot, swing low (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho) Coming for me (hou-ho, ho-ho, ho-ho) Why focus on that line when there are lots of other religions mentioned? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Hand Grace Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 8 minutes ago, BastillePark said: Why focus on that line when there are lots of other religions mentioned? See, Rush fans don't like the last line of Totem. Why not talk about it . .nervous? Neil was nervous too, when Earthshine came around with the inspiration for VT - Slipping through the dark streets And the echoes and the shadows Something stirs behind me And my palms begin to sweat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastillePark Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Just now, Second Hand Grace said: See, Rush fans don't like the last line of Totem. Why not talk about it . .nervous? Neil was nervous too, when Earthshine came around with the inspiration for VT - Slipping through the dark streets And the echoes and the shadows Something stirs behind me And my palms begin to sweat Nervous about what? Fairy tales? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Hand Grace Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 Just now, BastillePark said: Nervous about what? Fairy tales? Is Everything Happening For A Reason a fairy tale? Or do you subscribe to Something Happen for a Reason? Oh oh, now you have to think a little deeper . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastillePark Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 10 minutes ago, Second Hand Grace said: Is Everything Happening For A Reason a fairy tale? Or do you subscribe to Something Happen for a Reason? Oh oh, now you have to think a little deeper . . As deep as I go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Hand Grace Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 1 minute ago, BastillePark said: As deep as I go. Yh, a typical rambunctious ghost. Most believe everything is happening for a reason . . but don't want to talk about what the reason is. Rush took it on and produced Vapor Trails. Good for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 On 8/20/2024 at 11:29 AM, Second Hand Grace said: Rush fans don't like the last line of Totem, it comes from a Christian song, and they need Rush to be athiest's. I don't have a need for Rush to be atheists, but I do have a need for those claiming intellectual/spiritual/emotional superiority to have a firm grasp of the rules of grammar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 On 8/20/2024 at 11:29 AM, Second Hand Grace said: Rush fans don't like the last line of Totem, it comes from a Christian song, and they need Rush to be athiest's. I don't know about you, but I've met dozens of Christian Rush fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grep Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Everyone is so hung up on religion, not religion..... enough already. Can't we all just get along? Believe what you want - all good. Next. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Hand Grace Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 On 8/29/2024 at 2:20 PM, grep said: Everyone is so hung up on religion, not religion..... enough already. Can't we all just get along? Believe what you want - all good. Next. At 23:39 John Slop wonders why "Sweet Chariot Swing Low, Coming for Me" is at the end of the song Totem - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony R Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 On 9/4/2024 at 7:51 PM, Second Hand Grace said: At 23:39 John Slop wonders why "Sweet Chariot Swing Low, Coming for Me" is at the end of the song Totem - But what have other world class intellectuals said about it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry2024 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 (edited) The song is about personal experience influenced by the collective human religious history and deriving morality from that. The host of experiences and spiritual beliefs make up NPs Totem: different stories, through books, thoughts and music. A totem pole is a representation of a community’s history. NP is using a totem as a device to explain what ingredients make up his own personal value system. Incorporating “sweet chariot” is beautiful - the suggestion is that pop music was initially imbued with religious metaphors, but also, it’s a proto pop song that grapples with the concept of human existence. The connective tissue for Peart is the music. For him the music is not the vehicle to carry a religious message, the music IS the message. Edited September 12 by chemistry2024 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAnarchist2112 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Don't pay attention to second hand grace, guys. They just want attention, and to get everyone riled up. Just ignore them and go on with your business on this forum as if they don't even exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Hand Grace Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 10 hours ago, Tony R said: But what have other world class intellectuals said about it? Another scrotumless deflection. Love it. World Class intellectuals are all part of Another Lost Generation. Imagine that . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Hand Grace Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 8 hours ago, TheAnarchist2112 said: Don't pay attention to second hand grace, guys. They just want attention, and to get everyone riled up. Just ignore them and go on with your business on this forum as if they don't even exist. There you go, drawing my attention again . . Gotta kill time somehow, right? Yes, I love to stir up the Truth with Rush fans, yet you need to frame it as stirring up shit. Well, if you have shit for brains, it's been stirred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Hand Grace Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 9 hours ago, chemistry2024 said: The song is about personal experience influenced by the collective human religious history and deriving morality from that. The host of experiences and spiritual beliefs make up NPs Totem: different stories, through books, thoughts and music. A totem pole is a representation of a community’s history. NP is using a totem as a device to explain what ingredients make up his own personal value system. Incorporating “sweet chariot” is beautiful - the suggestion is that pop music was initially imbued with religious metaphors, but also, it’s a proto pop song that grapples with the concept of human existence. The connective tissue for Peart is the music. For him the music is not the vehicle to carry a religious message, the music IS the message. Beautiful response. The music and message both rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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