Rush Didact Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) Seriously, how do you get "purt" from Peart? There's an A in there. This really grinds my gears. Can't you hear it in your ears? It's clear Neil was near and dear, I fear a tear seared my bleary, weary eyes last year. EAR. They even made a joke out of the mispronunciation in a major movie, where Neil himself says his own name, and people STILL get it wrong. http://youtu.be/eR8fsJxRVXs What gives? Why does this persist? Edited September 26, 2021 by Rush Didact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) Bear. Dear. Dearth. Earth. Heart. Pear. Tear. Tear. Wear. Year. What the ear hears in "ear." Edited September 26, 2021 by toymaker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible airwave Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 So Family Guy has it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbanezJem Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 People are a beef-witted, crassulent lot (to quote S. Holmes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) Bear. Dear. Dearth. Earth. Heart. Pear. Tear. Tear. Wear. Year. What the ear hears in "ear.":goodone: Plus, "pert" is both a fairly common word and a popular shampoo, so the mistake makes sense. As to why Californians butcher so many Spanish names of their cities, now that's a mystery. Edited September 26, 2021 by goose 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geddyleegenes Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 I was surprised that at the recent Primus "Tribute To Kings" concert in Chicago, the lead singer, who said he's been a fan since the Hemispheres tour when he was 14, pronounced it as "Pert" when speaking about Neil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Didact Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 Bear. Dear. Dearth. Earth. Heart. Pear. Tear. Tear. Wear. Year. What the ear hears in "ear." Except out of all of those, only earth (and dearth) rhyme with "pert". The vowel sound is different in all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briere2112 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 While the Peert pronunciation is common in words ending in "ear", it is quite rare for words that end in "ear" plus another consonant. In that case, the Pert pronunciation is fairly common and that's probably why it is mispronounced so much. Notably, there aren't a ton of commonly used English words ending in this pattern that I could come up with. Pert:Earn/learn/yearn, Earl/pearl, heard, earth/dearth, search Part:Heart Peert:Beard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 English is weird.Apricot.Tomato.Aunt.Peart.Nobody agrees on these pronunciations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Bear. Dear. Dearth. Earth. Heart. Pear. Tear. Tear. Wear. Year. What the ear hears in "ear." Except out of all of those, only earth (and dearth) rhyme with "pert". The vowel sound is different in all of them.Yeah, I just meant to demonstrate the variability in pronunciation as a way to suggest why so many people might hear it differently in their own minds. When I was a kid, I assumed his name rhymed with "Heart." At some point in high school, a friend told me it sounded like "Pert." I didn't learn the correct punctuation until later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dream & vapour Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 English is weird.Apricot.Tomato.Aunt.Peart.Nobody agrees on these pronunciations. I agree on these pronunciations. "A great mind thinks alike!" But seriously, one can't help but feel sorry for those learning English from a non-native starting point. The British Isles was a place where all of its inhabitants, and their neighboring lands, met to create one heck of an amalgamation: Old Norse, Latin, Brittonic, Old French . . . the list goes on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Let's call the whole thing off. (Someone had to say it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I'm with the OP. I can't stand it when people mispronounce Nell's name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 ;) (Just in case it's needed.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 English is weird.Apricot.Tomato.Aunt.Peart.Nobody agrees on these pronunciations. I agree on these pronunciations. "A great mind thinks alike!" But seriously, one can't help but feel sorry for those learning English from a non-native starting point. The British Isles was a place where all of its inhabitants, and their neighboring lands, met to create one heck of an amalgamation: Old Norse, Latin, Brittonic, Old French . . . the list goes on and on.English is a bunch of languages standing on each other's shoulders wearing a trenchcoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grep Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Why does anything get mispronounced? That's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I'm pretty sure I always pronounced it Peert from the first time I saw it written down on the back of 2112 or whatever. Then again in Britain there are more similar names like Pearce and Pearson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Didact Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) English is weird.Apricot.Tomato.Aunt.Peart.Nobody agrees on these pronunciations. Three of those are common nouns; one is a proper noun. More than that, it's the name of a person. Human beings are given the exclusive and inalienable right to name exactly two things whatsoever way they choose to: their children and themselves. (With the corollary that children can rename themselves when they become old enough to be a legal 'themself'.) If I tell you my name is Zaphod Beeblebrox, and I've filled out the requisite government forms to make it so, then calling me anything else would be wrong, in the sense that 1 + 1 = 3 is wrong. That is my name. I declared it so. We don't have that power over any other object or concept in the entire universe; literally every other noun in every language everywhere on Earth is negotiated and subject to dissenting opinions. Your pronunciation of 'aunt' is no more right or wrong than mine is. It's quite remarkable when you think about it, actually. Edited September 28, 2021 by Rush Didact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Cocky Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 It's Neil. "N" then long E, then "L" Not that hard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemari77 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 It doesn’t really bother me… To be honest, I’ve heard “Purrt” all my life. Just like PEARL is pronounced “Purrl” or the name Earl… It wasn’t until I started listening to interviews and even hanging out on these Internet forums that I learned the proper pronunciation. I’d be willing to bet that the vast majority of us didn’t start off pronouncing Neil’s last name properly. I’ve even seen people that knew him personally mis-pronounce it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 How do you pronounce Pearl, the drum company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 How do you pronounce Pearl, the drum company?nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 How do you pronounce Pearl, the drum company? "Pee-ral" And Tama is "Taw-mah" and Ludwig is "Lood-Veeg" and Drum Workshop is "Droom warks hop" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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