JohnRogers Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 I like shit like She's a Rainbow, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Paint It Black, Sympathy For the Devil, Mother's Little Helper, Street Fighting Man, Ruby Tuesday...that kind of shit.You sound like Bathory.I am a bit of a misanthrope. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 I like shit like She's a Rainbow, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Paint It Black, Sympathy For the Devil, Mother's Little Helper, Street Fighting Man, Ruby Tuesday...that kind of shit.You sound like Bathory.I am a bit of a misanthrope.Now you're talking shit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 The only lock here is Angie at number one. It's in the running for my favorite song of all time. After that, I tried to think of songs I fell in love with the very first time I heard them. There are at least 50 other songs by the Stones I absolutely love. Exile is my favorite Stones album, but only one song from it cracks my top 20 right now. 1. AngieDoo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)Star StarSweet Virginia (I have to prove my "real fan" bona fides :))Brown SugarBitchGimme ShelterMonkey ManJumpin' Jack FlashSympathy for the DevilMiss YouBefore They Make Me RunEmotional RescueWaiting on a FriendIt's Only Rock and Roll (But I Like It)(I Can't Get No) SatisfactionWe Love YouUnder My ThumbLove is StrongLive with Me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 I like shit like She's a Rainbow, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Paint It Black, Sympathy For the Devil, Mother's Little Helper, Street Fighting Man, Ruby Tuesday...that kind of shit.You sound like Bathory.I am a bit of a misanthrope.Now you're talking shit.Oh yeah, Gimme Shelter. I like that shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbine Freight Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 I like shit like She's a Rainbow, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Paint It Black, Sympathy For the Devil, Mother's Little Helper, Street Fighting Man, Ruby Tuesday...that kind of shit.You sound like Bathory.I am a bit of a misanthrope. Edgy with it too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbine Freight Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Play With FireLady JaneGimme ShelterTorn and FrayedWild HorsesBrown SugarFool to CryMiss YouMonkey ManAlmost Hear You SighGunfaceAngieEmotional RescueStray Cat BluesAll Over NowSwayTumbling DiceDoom and GloomBeast of BurdenThe Last Time 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krystal Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Factory Girl - I worked at 2 different factories when I was in college. It's like that song was written for me. Play With FireWild HorsesAngieRuby TuesdayPaint It BlackMiss YouStart Me UpLove is StrongMixed EmotionsShatteredTumblin DiceThe Last TimeLet's Spend the Night Together19th Nervous BreakdownJumpin Jack FlashGet Off of My CloudUnder My ThumbYou Can't Always Get What You WantWaiting on a Friend 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbale Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Play With FireLady JaneGimme ShelterTorn and FrayedWild HorsesBrown SugarFool to CryMiss YouMonkey ManAlmost Hear You SighGunfaceAngieEmotional RescueStray Cat BluesAll Over NowSwayTumbling DiceDoom and GloomBeast of BurdenThe Last Time Doom and Gloom! A rare example of a late-career song that actually kicked! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condemned2bfree Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Play With FireLady JaneGimme ShelterTorn and FrayedWild HorsesBrown SugarFool to CryMiss YouMonkey ManAlmost Hear You SighGunfaceAngieEmotional RescueStray Cat BluesAll Over NowSwayTumbling DiceDoom and GloomBeast of BurdenThe Last Time Doom and Gloom! A rare example of a late-career song that actually kicked! Really thought this was a great song. So late in their career too. Stones have major material, hard to choose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbale Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Love all eras of the Stones (up to about 1981), but my fave is the Mick Taylor years - I easily could have just listed songs from Goat's Head Soup, Exile and Sticky Fingers. But... Street Fighting ManGimme ShelterI Am WaitingAll Down The LineUnder My ThumbAngieCan't You Hear Me KnockingMoonlight MileComing Down AgainWaiting On A FriendYou Can't Always Get What You WantMiss YouSalt Of The EarthHappyMother's Little HelperShatteredDoo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)She's A RainbowRuby TuesdayHeaven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Brown Sugar has been taken out of the set list for the upcoming tour due to controversy over the lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 Brown Sugar has been taken out of the set list for the upcoming tour due to controversy over the lyrics. I've always thought those lyrics were crossing a line too far. Don't get me wrong, it's a classic song, and I'm not gonna act like I don't sing along to it in the car. Mick's fun to sing along to. But those lyrics... gah. There's really no reason for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 Brown Sugar has been taken out of the set list for the upcoming tour due to controversy over the lyrics. I've always thought those lyrics were crossing a line too far. Don't get me wrong, it's a classic song, and I'm not gonna act like I don't sing along to it in the car. Mick's fun to sing along to. But those lyrics... gah. There's really no reason for them. Nah, I'll add this too. There's a pretty easy viewpoint to take with the lyrics that mostly redeems them, and I've read Keith take it before, even though Mick's the one who's said to have written them. It's this: all of the things described and alluded to in the song are obviously horrible, in fact so obvious that it doesn't even need to be said in the lyric how atrocious they are. And to anyone who's just taking the song at face value, they're not recognizing that no sane person would write a song glorifying rape or slavery. Obviously the song is about the horrific state of affairs, especially for young black women and children, that existed only a century ago in the United States. The counterpoint though I think is more than fair, and it's this: if you mean to condemn these things in your song, it's not fair to set them to an infectious dancing groove and sing about how "brown sugar tastes so good." It sounds like a party song. It has all the hallmarks of a party song, the major key, the energetic groove, the elated-sounding vocals, even a horn line. So without any lyrics in particular that clue the audience in to this being some kind of satire or condemnation of the things Mick's singing about... it's pretty easy to take it at face value. I think the real issue here is context. In the context of the early 70s, in which I did not exist and I can only speculate, I'm guessing most people saw it more or less the way Keith sees it. The Stones are a rebellious rock and roll band, known for pushing the envelope lyrically and breaking into taboo subjects (Sympathy For The Devil for instance), but everyone knows it's obviously for show. It couldn't be otherwise. It's just rock and roll, it's being provocative, it's not always meant to be taken seriously. But in the context of the modern day, things are different. The Stones aren't rebellious anymore, they have become the very status quo their image and music railed against. The rock and roll movement has largely dried up, and hip hop has largely taken its place. Now it's the misogyny and abuse and murder of many (not all! not even close to all, just many) rap lyrics that goes largely uncriticized, because "that's just rap." It's not meant to be taken seriously all the time. It's obvious the things they rap about are horrible, but they're just putting on a show, just spitting the bars that will get them the most attention and make them sound cool. Ah but who knows... in 50 years time, when the context has again shifted, and some other genre becomes the zeitgeist, will it be Lil Wayne under fire for his lyrical choices? So what's the answer? Am I upset Keith and Mick feel it's time to (at least temporarily) retire Brown Sugar? No. They've played it for 50 years, and they have so many more classic songs they can play in its place that it shouldn't even make a difference. Am I upset that they seem to have come to this decision due to very vocal critics outside the band who (like me) probably weren't alive when the song was first released? ...no. It's up to the artist, and the artist in this case understood the criticisms, thought long and hard about it, and came to their own conclusion. If there were some court case or outside organization absolutely forcing them to remove it from their setlist, yeah that might get me thinking about censorship and Mark Twain not being read in schools. That would be a different story to me, even though I don't like the lyrics either. We're talking about art now. Culture. In my opinion censorship is almost never the answer. But this isn't censorship, it's an open dialogue between two very old rock stars and a more discerning public than they used to interact with. Do I think they should say "screw the public opinion" and keep on playing it? It is a great song musically speaking, and a classic one at that. I wouldn't mind if they kept it in the setlist... but I'm a part of rock and roll culture. And I've been a part of rock and roll culture for half my life. I do understand what Keith is getting at when he says it should be obvious it's an anti-slavery, anti-rape, anti-violence song. Most of the world isn't like me anymore, they're looking from the outside in, and that doesn't register for them. And I think that's more than fair, because literally speaking the lyrics alone make no attempt at qualifying the morality of their contents. I've never liked the lyrics myself, specifically because they don't qualify their subject matter. If I were Mick and Keith, I would be seriously considering a compromise of some sort. Maybe even a rewrite of the lyrics, or just a line or two added two give them some perspective. But I'm not Mick or Keith and I don't have any say in those decisions, and that too is fair, because this is art we're talking about, not law. The old rule will always apply: if you don't like it, don't listen to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Brown Sugar has been taken out of the set list for the upcoming tour due to controversy over the lyrics. When does Maiden disavow Run to the Hills? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Play With FireLady JaneGimme ShelterTorn and FrayedWild HorsesBrown SugarFool to CryMiss YouMonkey ManAlmost Hear You SighGunfaceAngieEmotional RescueStray Cat BluesAll Over NowSwayTumbling DiceDoom and GloomBeast of BurdenThe Last Time I'm cranking "Power And The Glory" by SAXON right now. I have no favorite Stones songs. The Rolling Snoozes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Actually, I've probably heard the first verse of Brown Sugar a thousand times and never known what most of the words here (what I thought they were isn't actually what they were). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Actually, I've probably heard the first verse of Brown Sugar a thousand times and never known what most of the words here (what I thought they were isn't actually what they were).I'd never heard them correctly either, a read them for the first time from your link. I can see why tge Stones are setting it aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbear05 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 No order:Satisfaction Not Fade Away 19th Nervous Breakdown 200 Light Years From Home In Another Land On With The Show Tell Me Shattered Harlem Shuffle Emotional Rescue Happy Little Red Rooster Street Fighting Man You Can't Always Get What You Want The Under Assitant West Coast Promo Man. Some Girls Bitch Mother's Little Helper One Shot To The Body Beast of Burden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 So, I have to try and pick my favorite 20 out of the thousand songs they've recorded? That could take a while. I will say that Paint It Black is probably number one though. do they really have that many? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 my favorite off the top of my head is shattered, it's uniquely stones... probably not a bad choice to go with immediately based off of my gut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14UaKYCoFQs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 my favorite off the top of my head is shattered, it's uniquely stones... probably not a bad choice to go with immediately based off of my gut.Great tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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