rushgoober Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Actor who played Sulu comes out as gay. Not like there's anything wrong with that! I think it's cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted October 28, 2005 Author Share Posted October 28, 2005 He boldly went where no Star Trek cast member had gone before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trance Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modest Man From Mandrake Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Oct 28 2005, 04:28 PM) He boldly went where no Star Trek cast member had gone before! Yeah in another man's but Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midway Hawker Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Kinda gives a new meaning to: Kirk: Mr. Sulu, forward thrusters! Sulu: EY Captain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arndrake Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Or even: Warp 9 to Uranus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necromancer Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 QUOTE (Arndrake @ Oct 28 2005, 06:15 PM) Or even: Warp 9 to Uranus You stole what i wanted to say. Good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war2112 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 (edited) He will always be Sulu to me. There were a few episodes where Sulu did some dancing. He was quite good. Now we know why. No matter, he is a cool dude. I have always liked him. He's still Sulu and now he is most certainly George Takei. I still like him. He's cool. Edited October 30, 2005 by war2112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro2112 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 Who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 QUOTE (pedro2112 @ Oct 30 2005, 02:06 PM) Who cares? Yeah, exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted October 30, 2005 Author Share Posted October 30, 2005 QUOTE (1-0-0-1-0-0-1 @ Oct 30 2005, 10:10 AM) QUOTE (pedro2112 @ Oct 30 2005, 02:06 PM) Who cares? Yeah, exactly. I do! Seriously, any celebrity who comes out proudly is another small step in showing people that there's nothing wrong or unnatural about it. Small steps towards gay civil rights IMHO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Aubrey Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 QUOTE (1-0-0-1-0-0-1 @ Oct 30 2005, 02:10 PM) QUOTE (pedro2112 @ Oct 30 2005, 02:06 PM) Who cares? Yeah, exactly. Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necromancer Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Oct 30 2005, 04:09 PM) QUOTE (1-0-0-1-0-0-1 @ Oct 30 2005, 10:10 AM) QUOTE (pedro2112 @ Oct 30 2005, 02:06 PM) Who cares? Yeah, exactly. I do! Seriously, any celebrity who comes out proudly is another small step in showing people that there's nothing wrong or unnatural about it. Small steps towards gay civil rights IMHO... In all honesty, it doesn't really matter in WHO he is. I think that's what the "who cares" means? Maybe? Yes, it is good that things like this contribute to the civil rights of homosexuals, but it matters not that George Takei is himself gay. But some of us just couldn't help ourselves with the star trek/gay jokes. Sad, but funny all the same. Sorry. to Sulu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted October 30, 2005 Author Share Posted October 30, 2005 (edited) QUOTE (Necromancer @ Oct 30 2005, 02:26 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Oct 30 2005, 04:09 PM) QUOTE (1-0-0-1-0-0-1 @ Oct 30 2005, 10:10 AM) QUOTE (pedro2112 @ Oct 30 2005, 02:06 PM) Who cares? Yeah, exactly. I do! Seriously, any celebrity who comes out proudly is another small step in showing people that there's nothing wrong or unnatural about it. Small steps towards gay civil rights IMHO... In all honesty, it doesn't really matter in WHO he is. I think that's what the "who cares" means? Maybe? Yes, it is good that things like this contribute to the civil rights of homosexuals, but it matters not that George Takei is himself gay. But some of us just couldn't help ourselves with the star trek/gay jokes. Sad, but funny all the same. Sorry. to Sulu Do I care personally that he in particular is gay? No, not at all. Interesting information, but only vaguely so. It's just that every little step adds to it being considered natural and normal. Edited October 30, 2005 by rushgoober Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro2112 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Oct 30 2005, 06:45 PM) Do I care personally that he in particular is gay? No, not at all. Which was my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted October 31, 2005 Author Share Posted October 31, 2005 laides and gentlemen, this is a tiny taste of why i left politics - conversational argumentative drivel - sorry i started the darn thread - goob out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plodder Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Silly Gary. You need to explain everything to the "n"th degree so there's no chance of anyone getting the wrong meaning in your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Oct 31 2005, 01:35 PM) laides and gentlemen, this is a tiny taste of why i left politics - conversational argumentative drivel - sorry i started the darn thread - goob out... Not a big deal, Goob. A topic such as this is was bound to start a debate, and debate is healthy, isn't it? If everybody agreed with everybody about everything, we wouldn't need message boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Grizz Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 I think a lot of y'all are missing the point. The reason a person comes out (famous or not) is because they are tired of living a lie. Sexual orientation is still an issue in this goofy country. To be gay and an ethnic minority is a double-whammy. Mr. Takei did not come out to score any points, or to advance any kind of political agenda. He merely just wants to be himself, and never have to pretend again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted October 31, 2005 Author Share Posted October 31, 2005 QUOTE (Grandpa Grizz @ Oct 31 2005, 11:15 AM) I think a lot of y'all are missing the point. The reason a person comes out (famous or not) is because they are tired of living a lie. Sexual orientation is still an issue in this goofy country. To be gay and an ethnic minority is a double-whammy. Mr. Takei did not come out to score any points, or to advance any kind of political agenda. He merely just wants to be himself, and never have to pretend again. also, i think if it was a non-issue, that is if there were no stigma, no prejudice, etc., then it really would completely be a "who cares" scenario - until that time, the more exposure it gets the better imho, not so people can judge, but in the long term struggle for acceptance and equality. it may very well be that george takei didn't do it to help bring about acceptance, but for the reason grizz eloquently stated above. regardless of his particular motivation, i think both meanings have a lot of validity. regarding debate, i think debate can be healthy, but not always, at least for me - i'm much happier debating the merits of vapor trails or things that are lighter - often debating extremely heartfelt important issues for me is actually miserable and definitively unhealthy, which is why i'm shying away from it. and pedro, for what it's worth, i hope i didn't offend in any way. peace, gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro2112 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Oct 31 2005, 04:20 PM) and pedro, for what it's worth, i hope i didn't offend in any way. No Problemo! I actually agree with the vast majority of what you've said in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 QUOTE (Modest Man From Mandrake @ Oct 28 2005, 05:41 PM)QUOTE (rushgoober @ Oct 28 2005, 04:28 PM) He boldly went where no Star Trek cast member had gone before! Yeah in another man's but Star Crack, The Next Penetration........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted November 1, 2005 Author Share Posted November 1, 2005 QUOTE (pedro2112 @ Oct 31 2005, 05:10 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Oct 31 2005, 04:20 PM) and pedro, for what it's worth, i hope i didn't offend in any way. No Problemo! I actually agree with the vast majority of what you've said in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted November 1, 2005 Author Share Posted November 1, 2005 QUOTE (tangdog @ Oct 31 2005, 05:32 PM) QUOTE (Modest Man From Mandrake @ Oct 28 2005, 05:41 PM)QUOTE (rushgoober @ Oct 28 2005, 04:28 PM) He boldly went where no Star Trek cast member had gone before! Yeah in another man's but Star Crack, The Next Penetration........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necromancer Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 QUOTE (Grandpa Grizz @ Oct 31 2005, 02:15 PM) I think a lot of y'all are missing the point. The reason a person comes out (famous or not) is because they are tired of living a lie. Sexual orientation is still an issue in this goofy country. To be gay and an ethnic minority is a double-whammy. Mr. Takei did not come out to score any points, or to advance any kind of political agenda. He merely just wants to be himself, and never have to pretend again. Where I'd love to COMPLETELY agree Grizz, i don't have that much faith in the reasons that celebrities do ANYTHING. I wouldn't doubt that Mr. Takei has a book coming out soon and this was the big press break that a very end of his career minor celebrity needs to cash in one more time. I hope i'm wrong because I hold the cast of Star Trek near and dear to my heart, but I just have a very negative attitude toward anything that any hollywood celebrity does. It could very well be that he was just sick of living a lie, but somehow i see a big KA-CHING on its way. In no way am i debating your words about this goofy country. I am in near total agreement on everything you and Goobs are saying. I just have a naturally skeptical attitude toward any celebrities motives today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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