Tombstone Mountain Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I think Peter Collins deserves a TON of credit for the album. Dude never heard Rush until they came knocking, and look at what he helped them create. Treeduck is right. At that point they were a different band with a modicum of success eager to pursue other directions. Hemispheres is a revered album in the pantheon of Rush, and yet, it never captivated me to the point where I listen to it intentionally. Certain tracks I have set in the rotation, but in all Power Windows is a much more satisfying album to engage as a whole. As is Clockwork Angels. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I'm not sure how Rush fans could listen to what Neil is doing on High Water and not like it in some way? He's really getting down with drum groove on it.Word. And the vocals and power chords are great as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I'm not sure how Rush fans could listen to what Neil is doing on High Water and not like it in some way? He's really getting down with drum groove on it.Word. And the vocals and power chords are great as well.I especially like Neil's usage of the prototype 1" finger cymbals from Zildian on Territories, Why didn't they make that shit into a documentary? They money they left on the table. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 For anyone who hasn't heard the early demo for Power Windows. It's taken from a cassette, so it's a bit rough, but it's raw and very Alex-heavy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 My fav tracks are Grand Designs, Middletown Dreams, Emotion Detector and Mystic Rhythms. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry1973 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I'm not sure how Rush fans could listen to what Neil is doing on High Water and not like it in some way? He's really getting down with drum groove on it.Word. And the vocals and power chords are great as well.I especially like Neil's usage of the prototype 1" finger cymbals from Zildian on Territories, Why didn't they make that shit into a documentary? They money they left on the table. Where in the song can I hear these? At the top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I'm not sure how Rush fans could listen to what Neil is doing on High Water and not like it in some way? He's really getting down with drum groove on it.Word. And the vocals and power chords are great as well.I especially like Neil's usage of the prototype 1" finger cymbals from Zildian on Territories, Why didn't they make that shit into a documentary? They money they left on the table. Where in the song can I hear these? At the top?Huh? Oh. I made that up. I just say stuff sometimes. Part of the quirky nature of Goatnut residents. We're natural storytellers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormtron Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Hemispheres is my favorite album and Power Windows is my favorite synth era album. I don't really get the relation other than there's not a weak song on either album, but f**k it, I'll agree anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil1972 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I won’t hatefully disagree; it’s a strong album, great songwriting, great execution. But Hold Your Fire is the Hemispheres of the synth era. ;) That's the only other one I could agree with. If it weren't for Tai Shan and High Water, HYF might have PoW beat. Lol, those are two of my favorites from HYF. Said nobody ever lol. Tai Shan is a real momentum killer. It's not as bad as a lot of fans make it out to be but those eight songs before just flow so well and take you on this great ride. Then Tai Shan comes on and just kills it. Just like Speed Of Love. Counterparts is going along tremendously until that song halts things for a few minutes. I do think because of the dislike many have for Tai Shan that High Water gets an unfair amount of hate because it has to try and save the album and end it on a good note. I feel the song does that. I'm not sure how Rush fans could listen to what Neil is doing on High Water and not like it in some way? He's really getting down with drum groove on it. I agree on every point. High Water is a good track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil1972 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Listening to PoW right now. Always have loved this one. I'm on Middletown Dreams, and it's truly a perfect 80s Rush song. In fact every song on the album is. It's super consistent even for a Rush album. That consistency and hyper technical arranging and ultra precise playing (especially on Neil's part), it just strikes me as the Hems of the 80s for Rush. That's just an opinion. Feel free to hatefully disagree, or applaud in agreement. Neil really outdid himself here though. I don't think that's debatable. Okay :codger: I hatefully disagree. :) Power Windows is one of my least favorite Rush albums. I've often wondered what forms our musical taste and why a song one person loves is horrid to the ears of another. But that is what makes life interesting. I guess. Look here http://www.therushfo...an/page__st__20, three people think Tai Shan is better than Xanadu. Two people are taking the piss and don’t actually think Tai Shan is better. The third probably misread the question or has some personal vendetta against Xanadu due to some past trauma associated with the tune Those folks never dined on honeydew nor drank the milk of paradise. What do they know?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I love Power Windows but I so wish GuP had the same level of production. Interesting one. Power Windows was a huge step forward IMO; the word that always comes to mind is "architectural". It's like a three-dimensional structure. But at the same time the minimalist, simple production of GUP is part of its charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry1973 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I love Power Windows but I so wish GuP had the same level of production. Interesting one. Power Windows was a huge step forward IMO; the word that always comes to mind is "architectural". It's like a three-dimensional structure. But at the same time the minimalist, simple production of GUP is part of its charm. I can't argue with that. I love both albums, but I feel like Geddy and NP got shorted on GuP. Geddy's playing (and tone) on GuP are so different, and muted almost, than his explosive performances on PW. And Peart's drums are mixed so strangely on GuP. Toms and Cymbals all in the mid range - the snare sounds --just weird for a Rush record. But Alex soars on GuP - sublime musicianship. I actually prefer his tone on GuP more than PW...Between the Wheels is incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I won’t hatefully disagree; it’s a strong album, great songwriting, great execution. But Hold Your Fire is the Hemispheres of the synth era. ;) That's the only other one I could agree with. If it weren't for Tai Shan and High Water, HYF might have PoW beat. Lol, those are two of my favorites from HYF. Said nobody ever lol. Tai Shan is a real momentum killer. It's not as bad as a lot of fans make it out to be but those eight songs before just flow so well and take you on this great ride. Then Tai Shan comes on and just kills it. Just like Speed Of Love. Counterparts is going along tremendously until that song halts things for a few minutes. I do think because of the dislike many have for Tai Shan that High Water gets an unfair amount of hate because it has to try and save the album and end it on a good note. I feel the song does that. I'm not sure how Rush fans could listen to what Neil is doing on High Water and not like it in some way? He's really getting down with drum groove on it. I agree on every point. High Water is a good track. Same here. With the exception of Available Light, I like High Water more than any closer from every album that followed. And yes that includes The Garden which I like just fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil1972 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I won’t hatefully disagree; it’s a strong album, great songwriting, great execution. But Hold Your Fire is the Hemispheres of the synth era. ;) That's the only other one I could agree with. If it weren't for Tai Shan and High Water, HYF might have PoW beat. Lol, those are two of my favorites from HYF. Said nobody ever lol. Tai Shan is a real momentum killer. It's not as bad as a lot of fans make it out to be but those eight songs before just flow so well and take you on this great ride. Then Tai Shan comes on and just kills it. Just like Speed Of Love. Counterparts is going along tremendously until that song halts things for a few minutes. I do think because of the dislike many have for Tai Shan that High Water gets an unfair amount of hate because it has to try and save the album and end it on a good note. I feel the song does that. I'm not sure how Rush fans could listen to what Neil is doing on High Water and not like it in some way? He's really getting down with drum groove on it. I agree on every point. High Water is a good track. Same here. With the exception of Available Light, I like High Water more than any closer from every album that followed. And yes that includes The Garden which I like just fine. I wouldn't go that far! :-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I won’t hatefully disagree; it’s a strong album, great songwriting, great execution. But Hold Your Fire is the Hemispheres of the synth era. ;) That's the only other one I could agree with. If it weren't for Tai Shan and High Water, HYF might have PoW beat. Lol, those are two of my favorites from HYF. Said nobody ever lol. Tai Shan is a real momentum killer. It's not as bad as a lot of fans make it out to be but those eight songs before just flow so well and take you on this great ride. Then Tai Shan comes on and just kills it. Just like Speed Of Love. Counterparts is going along tremendously until that song halts things for a few minutes. I do think because of the dislike many have for Tai Shan that High Water gets an unfair amount of hate because it has to try and save the album and end it on a good note. I feel the song does that. I'm not sure how Rush fans could listen to what Neil is doing on High Water and not like it in some way? He's really getting down with drum groove on it. I agree on every point. High Water is a good track. Same here. With the exception of Available Light, I like High Water more than any closer from every album that followed. And yes that includes The Garden which I like just fine. I wouldn't go that far! :-) I liked it the first time I heard it. And it’s grown on me even more over the years. BUT to be honest, I think every album closer from Bones and onwards (with the exception of The Garden) is mediocre or worse. YBYL is one of their worst tunes ever imho 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry1973 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I won’t hatefully disagree; it’s a strong album, great songwriting, great execution. But Hold Your Fire is the Hemispheres of the synth era. ;) That's the only other one I could agree with. If it weren't for Tai Shan and High Water, HYF might have PoW beat. Lol, those are two of my favorites from HYF. Said nobody ever lol. Tai Shan is a real momentum killer. It's not as bad as a lot of fans make it out to be but those eight songs before just flow so well and take you on this great ride. Then Tai Shan comes on and just kills it. Just like Speed Of Love. Counterparts is going along tremendously until that song halts things for a few minutes. I do think because of the dislike many have for Tai Shan that High Water gets an unfair amount of hate because it has to try and save the album and end it on a good note. I feel the song does that. I'm not sure how Rush fans could listen to what Neil is doing on High Water and not like it in some way? He's really getting down with drum groove on it. I agree on every point. High Water is a good track. Same here. With the exception of Available Light, I like High Water more than any closer from every album that followed. And yes that includes The Garden which I like just fine. I wouldn't go that far! :-) I liked it the first time I heard it. And it’s grown on me even more over the years. BUT to be honest, I think every album closer from Bones and onwards (with the exception of The Garden) is mediocre or worse. YBYL is one of their worst tunes ever imho So interesting. I LOVE YBYL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil1972 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I won’t hatefully disagree; it’s a strong album, great songwriting, great execution. But Hold Your Fire is the Hemispheres of the synth era. ;) That's the only other one I could agree with. If it weren't for Tai Shan and High Water, HYF might have PoW beat. Lol, those are two of my favorites from HYF. Said nobody ever lol. Tai Shan is a real momentum killer. It's not as bad as a lot of fans make it out to be but those eight songs before just flow so well and take you on this great ride. Then Tai Shan comes on and just kills it. Just like Speed Of Love. Counterparts is going along tremendously until that song halts things for a few minutes. I do think because of the dislike many have for Tai Shan that High Water gets an unfair amount of hate because it has to try and save the album and end it on a good note. I feel the song does that. I'm not sure how Rush fans could listen to what Neil is doing on High Water and not like it in some way? He's really getting down with drum groove on it. I agree on every point. High Water is a good track. Same here. With the exception of Available Light, I like High Water more than any closer from every album that followed. And yes that includes The Garden which I like just fine. I wouldn't go that far! :-) I liked it the first time I heard it. And it’s grown on me even more over the years. BUT to be honest, I think every album closer from Bones and onwards (with the exception of The Garden) is mediocre or worse. YBYL is one of their worst tunes ever imho I agree with you there. YBYL is lane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionDetector Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Other than being two great albums, I don’t see the connection. One (the brain/bum one) is a top 3 Rush album, and the other’s certainly top 10. The 80s had Peart’s best lyrics though. And PoW is smack dab in the middle of all of that lyrical brilliance. YES! I was thinking that the other day. We can find brilliance from Neil in just about any Rush song, but I really think his lyrics on Signals, P/G, PoW, and HYF were his very best. Just outstanding writing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I won’t hatefully disagree; it’s a strong album, great songwriting, great execution. But Hold Your Fire is the Hemispheres of the synth era. ;) That's the only other one I could agree with. If it weren't for Tai Shan and High Water, HYF might have PoW beat. Lol, those are two of my favorites from HYF. Said nobody ever lol. Tai Shan is a real momentum killer. It's not as bad as a lot of fans make it out to be but those eight songs before just flow so well and take you on this great ride. Then Tai Shan comes on and just kills it. Just like Speed Of Love. Counterparts is going along tremendously until that song halts things for a few minutes. I do think because of the dislike many have for Tai Shan that High Water gets an unfair amount of hate because it has to try and save the album and end it on a good note. I feel the song does that. I'm not sure how Rush fans could listen to what Neil is doing on High Water and not like it in some way? He's really getting down with drum groove on it. I agree on every point. High Water is a good track. Same here. With the exception of Available Light, I like High Water more than any closer from every album that followed. And yes that includes The Garden which I like just fine. I wouldn't go that far! :-) I liked it the first time I heard it. And it’s grown on me even more over the years. BUT to be honest, I think every album closer from Bones and onwards (with the exception of The Garden) is mediocre or worse. YBYL is one of their worst tunes ever imho So interesting. I LOVE YBYL. I found a lot of TRFers like it...and a lot dislike it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I won’t hatefully disagree; it’s a strong album, great songwriting, great execution. But Hold Your Fire is the Hemispheres of the synth era. ;) That's the only other one I could agree with. If it weren't for Tai Shan and High Water, HYF might have PoW beat. Lol, those are two of my favorites from HYF. Said nobody ever lol. Tai Shan is a real momentum killer. It's not as bad as a lot of fans make it out to be but those eight songs before just flow so well and take you on this great ride. Then Tai Shan comes on and just kills it. Just like Speed Of Love. Counterparts is going along tremendously until that song halts things for a few minutes. I do think because of the dislike many have for Tai Shan that High Water gets an unfair amount of hate because it has to try and save the album and end it on a good note. I feel the song does that. I'm not sure how Rush fans could listen to what Neil is doing on High Water and not like it in some way? He's really getting down with drum groove on it. I agree on every point. High Water is a good track. Same here. With the exception of Available Light, I like High Water more than any closer from every album that followed. And yes that includes The Garden which I like just fine. I wouldn't go that far! :-) I liked it the first time I heard it. And it’s grown on me even more over the years. BUT to be honest, I think every album closer from Bones and onwards (with the exception of The Garden) is mediocre or worse. YBYL is one of their worst tunes ever imho So interesting. I LOVE YBYL. I found a lot of TRFers like it...and a lot dislike it.You are mostly correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I won’t hatefully disagree; it’s a strong album, great songwriting, great execution. But Hold Your Fire is the Hemispheres of the synth era. ;) That's the only other one I could agree with. If it weren't for Tai Shan and High Water, HYF might have PoW beat. Lol, those are two of my favorites from HYF. Said nobody ever lol. Tai Shan is a real momentum killer. It's not as bad as a lot of fans make it out to be but those eight songs before just flow so well and take you on this great ride. Then Tai Shan comes on and just kills it. Just like Speed Of Love. Counterparts is going along tremendously until that song halts things for a few minutes. I do think because of the dislike many have for Tai Shan that High Water gets an unfair amount of hate because it has to try and save the album and end it on a good note. I feel the song does that. I'm not sure how Rush fans could listen to what Neil is doing on High Water and not like it in some way? He's really getting down with drum groove on it. I agree on every point. High Water is a good track. Same here. With the exception of Available Light, I like High Water more than any closer from every album that followed. And yes that includes The Garden which I like just fine. I wouldn't go that far! :-) I liked it the first time I heard it. And it’s grown on me even more over the years. BUT to be honest, I think every album closer from Bones and onwards (with the exception of The Garden) is mediocre or worse. YBYL is one of their worst tunes ever imho So interesting. I LOVE YBYL. I found a lot of TRFers like it...and a lot dislike it.You are mostly correct Ming! Long time no see. Hope the nut of Goat has been treating you well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I won’t hatefully disagree; it’s a strong album, great songwriting, great execution. But Hold Your Fire is the Hemispheres of the synth era. ;) That's the only other one I could agree with. If it weren't for Tai Shan and High Water, HYF might have PoW beat. Lol, those are two of my favorites from HYF. Said nobody ever lol. Tai Shan is a real momentum killer. It's not as bad as a lot of fans make it out to be but those eight songs before just flow so well and take you on this great ride. Then Tai Shan comes on and just kills it. Just like Speed Of Love. Counterparts is going along tremendously until that song halts things for a few minutes. I do think because of the dislike many have for Tai Shan that High Water gets an unfair amount of hate because it has to try and save the album and end it on a good note. I feel the song does that. I'm not sure how Rush fans could listen to what Neil is doing on High Water and not like it in some way? He's really getting down with drum groove on it. I agree on every point. High Water is a good track. Same here. With the exception of Available Light, I like High Water more than any closer from every album that followed. And yes that includes The Garden which I like just fine. I wouldn't go that far! :-) I liked it the first time I heard it. And it’s grown on me even more over the years. BUT to be honest, I think every album closer from Bones and onwards (with the exception of The Garden) is mediocre or worse. YBYL is one of their worst tunes ever imho So interesting. I LOVE YBYL. I found a lot of TRFers like it...and a lot dislike it.You are mostly correct Ming! Long time no see. Hope the nut of Goat has been treating you well Still flamin' I see. You remember Ming...that's funny! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I won’t hatefully disagree; it’s a strong album, great songwriting, great execution. But Hold Your Fire is the Hemispheres of the synth era. ;) That's the only other one I could agree with. If it weren't for Tai Shan and High Water, HYF might have PoW beat. Lol, those are two of my favorites from HYF. Said nobody ever lol. Tai Shan is a real momentum killer. It's not as bad as a lot of fans make it out to be but those eight songs before just flow so well and take you on this great ride. Then Tai Shan comes on and just kills it. Just like Speed Of Love. Counterparts is going along tremendously until that song halts things for a few minutes. I do think because of the dislike many have for Tai Shan that High Water gets an unfair amount of hate because it has to try and save the album and end it on a good note. I feel the song does that. I'm not sure how Rush fans could listen to what Neil is doing on High Water and not like it in some way? He's really getting down with drum groove on it. I agree on every point. High Water is a good track. Same here. With the exception of Available Light, I like High Water more than any closer from every album that followed. And yes that includes The Garden which I like just fine. I wouldn't go that far! :-) I liked it the first time I heard it. And it’s grown on me even more over the years. BUT to be honest, I think every album closer from Bones and onwards (with the exception of The Garden) is mediocre or worse. YBYL is one of their worst tunes ever imho So interesting. I LOVE YBYL. I found a lot of TRFers like it...and a lot dislike it.You are mostly correct Ming! Long time no see. Hope the nut of Goat has been treating you well Still flamin' I see. You remember Ming...that's funny! I never forget a ruthless tyrant who’s hellbent on universal domination! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctbadger Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I've always liked Power Windows. By October 1985 I'd got over my Rush-synth-era phobia, but it's nothing like Hemispheres, it's almost like two different bands. Everything is different, the song structures, the guitars, the drums, the bass, the synths, even the vocals are different even though it's obviously Geddy.That's getting right to the heart of the matter now isn't it? Right to the beautiful part. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeddyLeeRoth Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) Power Windows is probably Rush's best post-Moving Pictures album, which is saying a lot. I was ecstatic they played half of the album on the CA Tour (another great Post-MP album). :Neil: Edited January 23, 2020 by GeddyLeeRoth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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