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My favorite comedian of all time!

 

I can't remember a time he wasn't my favorite comedian. Nobody else has ever come close to touching him. What's it been about 10 years now since he died?

 

Sounds right.

 

He’s been my favorite since ‘82 or ‘83 when I saw that HBO special, Carlin at Carnegie Hall. I was only 10 or 11 then but it was hilarious even to my very young ears. :LOL:

 

i saw my first Carlin special at 11 and that was it.

 

have All his CD'S. books and his stand up special boxset.

 

my hero.

 

Mick

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTNi48f567E&sns=em

 

i hope seque see this.

 

this cheer is right up his street, lol

 

Mick

RIP GEORGE

 

I love George OMG this one is so funny --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLRQvK2-iqQ

 

he taught me how to really cuss .. I'm sure we all know the 7 words you can't say on TV haha

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My favorite comedian of all time!

 

I can't remember a time he wasn't my favorite comedian. Nobody else has ever come close to touching him. What's it been about 10 years now since he died?

 

Sounds right.

 

He’s been my favorite since ‘82 or ‘83 when I saw that HBO special, Carlin at Carnegie Hall. I was only 10 or 11 then but it was hilarious even to my very young ears. :LOL:

 

i saw my first Carlin special at 11 and that was it.

 

have All his CD'S. books and his stand up special boxset.

 

my hero.

 

Mick

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTNi48f567E&sns=em

 

i hope seque see this.

 

this cheer is right up his street, lol

 

Mick

RIP GEORGE

 

I love George OMG this one is so funny --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLRQvK2-iqQ

 

he taught me how to really cuss .. I'm sure we all know the 7 words you can't say on TV haha

 

I used to CRINGE when my parents watched George on HBO, :blush: He he mentioned SEX I left the room

 

Also lets not forget Sam

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Allocate fewer shows to the 7456 CA performances. Save a little juice in the tank for the setlist they never played. Save something for Europe. 20 shows?

 

How about doing away w/ the entire pointless Time Machine Tour as well? There was really no reason for that tour nor the size of it. They could have saved their physical resources, instead of burning themselves out w/ multiple high capacity tours in a relatively short time span. Fewer shows for CA tour. The R40 tour should've been huge, including Europe dates. They should've gone out w/ a giant bang, instead, because of the way it was done, the uncertainty and the suddenness, they went out w/ a whimper. And that, in a nutshell, is what so many long time fans are so upset about. Not that they retired, god knows they deserved to, but the way they retired. A whimper.

 

You say it very well. It seems time machine, although I enjoyed it at the time, was crammed in to get a certain performer enough wealth to get to his magic retirement number ASAP.

 

I don't care what they called each tour, but to finally pull out some long forgotten early classics, finally, then only do 35 shows, ignore Europe...

 

 

.

 

Maybe the Time Machine Tour was unnecessary, although I'm sure it was a great tour for most everyone involved. Besides, didn't they pull out a few rarer numbers for that one? Maybe it wasn't Jacob's Ladder, but I recall Presto being played for the first time live, and the live version being surprisingly better than the studio version. That's besides the point though. Neil didn't do any tour just to make enough money to retire with. He probably had more than enough money to retire with by the mid-80s. He retired when he wanted to, and in 2010 and 2011 he didn't want to. He wanted to tour and write the lyrics to a concept album and work on it's novelization and make that album with Ged and Al and make it their most vital work since the 80s. By 2015, he was ready to retire, so he did. Why is that hard to understand?

 

 

Wow, gone two days and missed the fireworks. Glad rush fans can patch things up and listen to others in some places around here.

 

EP, as I have said a couple times in the first 7 pages of this topic, I agree 2015 was the year for Neil to retire, if that was his wish.

 

It's the way he spent the last five years of his career, and his complete refusal to support his two band mates desire to not retire that I disagree with. 3 years later and zero hints of a "Leefson" project. Wonder if there is any connection to that with NP turning g his back on them. One sentence expressing curiosity what his mates create in the future? If he did, I must have missed it.

 

Time machine did pull out a couple of rare songs, but that was not my point.

 

Look at rush setlists from MP tour. And then review every tour following until R40. I saw MP and every tour since, except HYF (h/t Transverse Leaf Spring).

 

From experience, I can tell you R40 is the tour 70s fans waited 34 years for. Then it was over 34 shows in. First single leg full tour of their career. Because they wore themselves out by jam packing the previous five years with synth dominated tours, to get a certain someone to their magic retirement number ASAP.

 

Read Neal's book about his famous cycle tour dealing with loss before making comments like "He probably had more than enough money to retire with by the mid-80s." An obvious innacurate statement, had you read his book.

 

 

This is a forum for fans to express differing opinions. Why is that so hard to understand?

 

 

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This is such an awful take, words cannot describe it.

 

Troll.

 

I've seen trolling. That is not trolling. That expressing disgust at someone else's opinion. Maybe it's unwarranted, sure. Maybe it's not nice, sure. But it ain't trolling.

 

Putting down someone's opinion, while providing zero reason and zero content, is provocative.

 

Read their other comments. It's how that member operates.

 

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Yet that's exactly what you did when you called The K Man a troll...

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Allocate fewer shows to the 7456 CA performances. Save a little juice in the tank for the setlist they never played. Save something for Europe. 20 shows?

 

How about doing away w/ the entire pointless Time Machine Tour as well? There was really no reason for that tour nor the size of it. They could have saved their physical resources, instead of burning themselves out w/ multiple high capacity tours in a relatively short time span. Fewer shows for CA tour. The R40 tour should've been huge, including Europe dates. They should've gone out w/ a giant bang, instead, because of the way it was done, the uncertainty and the suddenness, they went out w/ a whimper. And that, in a nutshell, is what so many long time fans are so upset about. Not that they retired, god knows they deserved to, but the way they retired. A whimper.

 

You say it very well. It seems time machine, although I enjoyed it at the time, was crammed in to get a certain performer enough wealth to get to his magic retirement number ASAP.

 

I don't care what they called each tour, but to finally pull out some long forgotten early classics, finally, then only do 35 shows, ignore Europe...

 

 

.

 

Maybe the Time Machine Tour was unnecessary, although I'm sure it was a great tour for most everyone involved. Besides, didn't they pull out a few rarer numbers for that one? Maybe it wasn't Jacob's Ladder, but I recall Presto being played for the first time live, and the live version being surprisingly better than the studio version. That's besides the point though. Neil didn't do any tour just to make enough money to retire with. He probably had more than enough money to retire with by the mid-80s. He retired when he wanted to, and in 2010 and 2011 he didn't want to. He wanted to tour and write the lyrics to a concept album and work on it's novelization and make that album with Ged and Al and make it their most vital work since the 80s. By 2015, he was ready to retire, so he did. Why is that hard to understand?

 

 

Wow, gone two days and missed the fireworks. Glad rush fans can patch things up and listen to others in some places around here.

 

EP, as I have said a couple times in the first 7 pages of this topic, I agree 2015 was the year for Neil to retire, if that was his wish.

 

It's the way he spent the last five years of his career, and his complete refusal to support his two band mates desire to not retire that I disagree with. 3 years later and zero hints of a "Leefson" project. Wonder if there is any connection to that with NP turning g his back on them. One sentence expressing curiosity what his mates create in the future? If he did, I must have missed it.

 

Time machine did pull out a couple of rare songs, but that was not my point.

 

Look at rush setlists from MP tour. And then review every tour following until R40. I saw MP and every tour since, except HYF (h/t Transverse Leaf Spring).

 

From experience, I can tell you R40 is the tour 70s fans waited 34 years for. Then it was over 34 shows in. First single leg full tour of their career. Because they wore themselves out by jam packing the previous five years with synth dominated tours, to get a certain someone to their magic retirement number ASAP.

 

Read Neal's book about his famous cycle tour dealing with loss before making comments like "He probably had more than enough money to retire with by the mid-80s." An obvious innacurate statement, had you read his book.

 

 

This is a forum for fans to express differing opinions. Why is that so hard to understand?

 

 

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I completely understand this forum is for expressing different opinions. I was literally making the same point a couple days ago. Don't accuse me of not accepting that my opinions aren't universal. It's not your opinions I disagree with, it's the facts you believe.

 

Yeah, R40 was an incredibly special tour, but I must say again, I highly doubt the previous tours were set up simply so Neil could feel like he earned his retirement. I'll accept that after a while he was much more interested in biking across the country than playing shows, but there's no way he couldn't have retired in 2011 if he'd wanted to. I think we're all upset at the way Rush ended, without much talk of officially putting an end to it, but if you were paying attention something was in the air that said "this could be important." When I was reading up on interviews about the upcoming R40 tour, I had a sense there was something more at work than a 40th anniversary, and when I heard what they put in the setlist, I started thinking they might not be planning to continue after this. I feel like the signs were there if you were open to seeing them, and I'm just glad my dad and I got to enjoy our first concert together being one from that incredible tour.

 

All that aside, I don't really have a big problem with your points until you mention the idea that Neil is somehow preventing Alex and Geddy from making music. That's completely preposterous. Geddy and Alex don't need Neil to make music, they only need him to make Rush. Let's not forget that Ged and Al released solo albums while Neil was on hiatus, they very likely will again. If there's any reason why they haven't done it yet, it's probably that they've just begun to realize over the past year or so that Rush is really over. I know every time I've seen Ged in an interview he's seemed less and less confident that Rush will ever do anything again, and he had been super confident of that before. He most likely hasn't committed himself to solo work simply because he's not ready to tie himself down to a musical project other than Rush, as than would make it all too real that Rush is over. However, I think he's realized it by now, just as most of us have, and he'll probably get back in the studio on his own by next year, if not this year. He could work with Alex, true, and I'd love to hear a Leefson project, but I feel like he's more likely to do solo work, just like Alex has been busying himself working with other artists, painting, writing, and enjoying his life apart from Rush. Whatever the case, Neil has nothing to do with Ged and Alex's ability to make more music. That's baloney. If you want to be upset wth Neil for finally settling down with his family after 40 years of nearly non-stop Rush, after the physical toll it took on his body, after the toll it took on his mind and emotions, and not least after what happened to his last family in the 90s, then fine. That's your prerogative. But know that no one would probably support Ged and Al making more music than Neil. He's always been a humongous proponent of individualism and artistic freedom, he's probably wondering why they haven't done anything yet just like the rest of us.

 

 

 

You said "preventing" while I said refused to publicly support. Those are different words with different meanings.

 

Do you understand you changed the meaning of my comment and then attacked your interpretation?

 

Regarding whether Neil needed to go back to work in 2002, read Ghost Rider. He writes about spending much more than his income during the hiatus, and was told by management they'd have to start selling his gear if that trend continued.

 

There's a TRF topic from 2008 if you don't believe the facts being presented to you:

 

"If you read closer, you will see that what Neil was saying was that at that time, he dodn't have enough saved up to retire completely, AND maintain his lifestyle WITHOUT selling off the band's infrastructure. Hence his reference to the discussions he had with Geddy and Al on this matter."

 

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The answer lies in the legal paperwork that was submitted to the court when Alex was suing the neocon Cops in Florida. That showed Rush's 2005 (i think ) earnings. It was in the order of 17 million if my memory serves me correctly. As for each members personal wealth all he says in his books is that he was spending more than he earnt and that he was spending 7 times his earnings. (if my memory serves me correctly)."

 

 

http://www.therushfo...money-problems/

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Alex and Geddy are big boys now. They don't need Neil's public support to continue making music, they just won't call it Rush, and for good reason. It doesn't matter if I (narrowly) changed the meaning of what you said by inserting a word that I thought you had clearly implied in your previous statement. The idea that Neil is obligated to tell his former band mates they're allowed to make music without him is incredibly short-sighted. Alex has already been working on musical projects, Geddy will soon, now that it's finally hitting him that Rush is done. It's a moot point.

 

Believe what you want about Neil's character and retirement. I still doubt that he went to the trouble of touring nonstop and making Rush's best album since the 80s from 2008 to 2015 just to "hit his magic retirement number." Why? Look at the quality of work he put in in those years. This is a man who obviously had the utmost care and respect for his craft, and for his fans. He retired in 2015 because he decided he couldn't spend anymore time away from his family. Simple as that.

 

Also, why the heck are we discussing Rush's personal finances. Few things are less interesting to me, and honestly I find it completely irrelevant how much money they had in 2005, or at any point in time. Neil could've retired whenever he wanted to, however many millions of dollars he didn't have yet. He certainly had enough to support a family of three.

 

I agree,I could care less about his finances.

 

However, in the context of this subject, when you consider his comments about finances in Ghost Rider, and examine their busy tour schedule post hiatus, it presents a clear picture, imo. This is a discussion about decisions made in the years leading up to his publicly abrupt retirement announcement. Some have said he wore himself out with the busy touring the last 10+ years. I agree.

 

Yes Ged n Al are "big boys." But, you do not see how influential Neil is to them? How many bands have ever said "this band is just us, period." It's almost unheard of. Bands with just as much "musicianship" have reached outside when members leave.

 

I agree Rush is done. To counter Geddys support (with that comment of Neil) during the hiatus by expressing a sentence or two of support or interest in checking out future material would have been a cool thing to do (considering the tension surrounding the band regarding their disagreements on this issue during R40). Just an opinion. It's not like I'm losing any sleep over it ;)

 

Here's how I see it. You said Neil had a choice to either sell his drums and gear so he could retire, or to play so many shows he got burnt out to make a bunch of money quickly so he could retire. If I were Neil in that situation, and my only goal was to retire, I'd sell my stuff in a heartbeat. That's way easier and healthier than playing all those shows so quickly. Now obviously Neil decided to play the shows instead, which says something very clear about his dedication to the band, the fans, and about his desire to retire. If he had wanted to retire in 2005, 2008, 2011, or any other time before 2015, he'd have sold his gear and done it. He didn't, and Neil isn't one to do much of anything he doesn't want to do, so I can only conclude he wanted to keep Rush going until 2015. Also, I was at R40, and he sounded just as incredible as ever. Even with his foot problems on that tour, the man had not burnt out yet when I saw him. Honestly, the only things I noticed that weren't practically record perfect were Ged's voice on a couple songs and when Alex missed a note in the DEW solo.

 

And I cannot express enough how little Peart has to do with Ged and Alex's career decisions anymore. He's retired, Rush is over, he no longer has any influence over what those two do with their careers. I guarantee Geddy hasn't been waiting out home browsing the internet waiting to see a public statement from Neil that says he'd love to hear new music from Ged and Al. Neil has no obligation to do anything of the sort. He put in the better part of his life with them. If they ever deserved anything from him, they got it and more. Yeah, it'd be a nice gesture for Neil to come out on the news just to say he's excited to hear what his former bandmates will do next, but don't you think that's a lot of effort to go to just to say something which could have easily been said in private any number of times over the past three years, and probably was? There's no good reason for Neil to go to the trouble of making a public statement that he's interested in the future careers of Alex and Geddy, especially with how much of a recluse the man is. He's retired for goodness sakes. I say let him be. He gave his all. Ged and Al will be back soon. There's nothing to complain about there.

 

Yeah, the end was kind of abrupt and not well-worded. But I've said it before and I'll say it again. If you weren't picking up on those strange signals around the R40 tour, I do feel sorry for you, but they were there. There was a real sense of finality about the whole proceeding, Geddy just didn't want to come out and say it was going to be the end because 1. he wasn't sure it was, and 2. even if he knew it might, he didn't want to face that truth himself.

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Allocate fewer shows to the 7456 CA performances. Save a little juice in the tank for the setlist they never played. Save something for Europe. 20 shows?

 

How about doing away w/ the entire pointless Time Machine Tour as well? There was really no reason for that tour nor the size of it. They could have saved their physical resources, instead of burning themselves out w/ multiple high capacity tours in a relatively short time span. Fewer shows for CA tour. The R40 tour should've been huge, including Europe dates. They should've gone out w/ a giant bang, instead, because of the way it was done, the uncertainty and the suddenness, they went out w/ a whimper. And that, in a nutshell, is what so many long time fans are so upset about. Not that they retired, god knows they deserved to, but the way they retired. A whimper.

 

You say it very well. It seems time machine, although I enjoyed it at the time, was crammed in to get a certain performer enough wealth to get to his magic retirement number ASAP.

 

I don't care what they called each tour, but to finally pull out some long forgotten early classics, finally, then only do 35 shows, ignore Europe...

 

 

.

 

Maybe the Time Machine Tour was unnecessary, although I'm sure it was a great tour for most everyone involved. Besides, didn't they pull out a few rarer numbers for that one? Maybe it wasn't Jacob's Ladder, but I recall Presto being played for the first time live, and the live version being surprisingly better than the studio version. That's besides the point though. Neil didn't do any tour just to make enough money to retire with. He probably had more than enough money to retire with by the mid-80s. He retired when he wanted to, and in 2010 and 2011 he didn't want to. He wanted to tour and write the lyrics to a concept album and work on it's novelization and make that album with Ged and Al and make it their most vital work since the 80s. By 2015, he was ready to retire, so he did. Why is that hard to understand?

 

 

Wow, gone two days and missed the fireworks. Glad rush fans can patch things up and listen to others in some places around here.

 

EP, as I have said a couple times in the first 7 pages of this topic, I agree 2015 was the year for Neil to retire, if that was his wish.

 

It's the way he spent the last five years of his career, and his complete refusal to support his two band mates desire to not retire that I disagree with. 3 years later and zero hints of a "Leefson" project. Wonder if there is any connection to that with NP turning g his back on them. One sentence expressing curiosity what his mates create in the future? If he did, I must have missed it.

 

Time machine did pull out a couple of rare songs, but that was not my point.

 

Look at rush setlists from MP tour. And then review every tour following until R40. I saw MP and every tour since, except HYF (h/t Transverse Leaf Spring).

 

From experience, I can tell you R40 is the tour 70s fans waited 34 years for. Then it was over 34 shows in. First single leg full tour of their career. Because they wore themselves out by jam packing the previous five years with synth dominated tours, to get a certain someone to their magic retirement number ASAP.

 

Read Neal's book about his famous cycle tour dealing with loss before making comments like "He probably had more than enough money to retire with by the mid-80s." An obvious innacurate statement, had you read his book.

 

 

This is a forum for fans to express differing opinions. Why is that so hard to understand?

 

 

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I completely understand this forum is for expressing different opinions. I was literally making the same point a couple days ago. Don't accuse me of not accepting that my opinions aren't universal. It's not your opinions I disagree with, it's the facts you believe.

 

Yeah, R40 was an incredibly special tour, but I must say again, I highly doubt the previous tours were set up simply so Neil could feel like he earned his retirement. I'll accept that after a while he was much more interested in biking across the country than playing shows, but there's no way he couldn't have retired in 2011 if he'd wanted to. I think we're all upset at the way Rush ended, without much talk of officially putting an end to it, but if you were paying attention something was in the air that said "this could be important." When I was reading up on interviews about the upcoming R40 tour, I had a sense there was something more at work than a 40th anniversary, and when I heard what they put in the setlist, I started thinking they might not be planning to continue after this. I feel like the signs were there if you were open to seeing them, and I'm just glad my dad and I got to enjoy our first concert together being one from that incredible tour.

 

All that aside, I don't really have a big problem with your points until you mention the idea that Neil is somehow preventing Alex and Geddy from making music. That's completely preposterous. Geddy and Alex don't need Neil to make music, they only need him to make Rush. Let's not forget that Ged and Al released solo albums while Neil was on hiatus, they very likely will again. If there's any reason why they haven't done it yet, it's probably that they've just begun to realize over the past year or so that Rush is really over. I know every time I've seen Ged in an interview he's seemed less and less confident that Rush will ever do anything again, and he had been super confident of that before. He most likely hasn't committed himself to solo work simply because he's not ready to tie himself down to a musical project other than Rush, as than would make it all too real that Rush is over. However, I think he's realized it by now, just as most of us have, and he'll probably get back in the studio on his own by next year, if not this year. He could work with Alex, true, and I'd love to hear a Leefson project, but I feel like he's more likely to do solo work, just like Alex has been busying himself working with other artists, painting, writing, and enjoying his life apart from Rush. Whatever the case, Neil has nothing to do with Ged and Alex's ability to make more music. That's baloney. If you want to be upset wth Neil for finally settling down with his family after 40 years of nearly non-stop Rush, after the physical toll it took on his body, after the toll it took on his mind and emotions, and not least after what happened to his last family in the 90s, then fine. That's your prerogative. But know that no one would probably support Ged and Al making more music than Neil. He's always been a humongous proponent of individualism and artistic freedom, he's probably wondering why they haven't done anything yet just like the rest of us.

 

 

 

You said "preventing" while I said refused to publicly support. Those are different words with different meanings.

 

Do you understand you changed the meaning of my comment and then attacked your interpretation?

 

Regarding whether Neil needed to go back to work in 2002, read Ghost Rider. He writes about spending much more than his income during the hiatus, and was told by management they'd have to start selling his gear if that trend continued.

 

There's a TRF topic from 2008 if you don't believe the facts being presented to you:

 

"If you read closer, you will see that what Neil was saying was that at that time, he dodn't have enough saved up to retire completely, AND maintain his lifestyle WITHOUT selling off the band's infrastructure. Hence his reference to the discussions he had with Geddy and Al on this matter."

 

"

The answer lies in the legal paperwork that was submitted to the court when Alex was suing the neocon Cops in Florida. That showed Rush's 2005 (i think ) earnings. It was in the order of 17 million if my memory serves me correctly. As for each members personal wealth all he says in his books is that he was spending more than he earnt and that he was spending 7 times his earnings. (if my memory serves me correctly)."

 

 

http://www.therushfo...money-problems/

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Alex and Geddy are big boys now. They don't need Neil's public support to continue making music, they just won't call it Rush, and for good reason. It doesn't matter if I (narrowly) changed the meaning of what you said by inserting a word that I thought you had clearly implied in your previous statement. The idea that Neil is obligated to tell his former band mates they're allowed to make music without him is incredibly short-sighted. Alex has already been working on musical projects, Geddy will soon, now that it's finally hitting him that Rush is done. It's a moot point.

 

Believe what you want about Neil's character and retirement. I still doubt that he went to the trouble of touring nonstop and making Rush's best album since the 80s from 2008 to 2015 just to "hit his magic retirement number." Why? Look at the quality of work he put in in those years. This is a man who obviously had the utmost care and respect for his craft, and for his fans. He retired in 2015 because he decided he couldn't spend anymore time away from his family. Simple as that.

 

Also, why the heck are we discussing Rush's personal finances. Few things are less interesting to me, and honestly I find it completely irrelevant how much money they had in 2005, or at any point in time. Neil could've retired whenever he wanted to, however many millions of dollars he didn't have yet. He certainly had enough to support a family of three.

 

I agree,I could care less about his finances.

 

However, in the context of this subject, when you consider his comments about finances in Ghost Rider, and examine their busy tour schedule post hiatus, it presents a clear picture, imo. This is a discussion about decisions made in the years leading up to his publicly abrupt retirement announcement. Some have said he wore himself out with the busy touring the last 10+ years. I agree.

 

Yes Ged n Al are "big boys." But, you do not see how influential Neil is to them? How many bands have ever said "this band is just us, period." It's almost unheard of. Bands with just as much "musicianship" have reached outside when members leave.

 

I agree Rush is done. To counter Geddys support (with that comment of Neil) during the hiatus by expressing a sentence or two of support or interest in checking out future material would have been a cool thing to do (considering the tension surrounding the band regarding their disagreements on this issue during R40). Just an opinion. It's not like I'm losing any sleep over it ;)

 

Here's how I see it. You said Neil had a choice to either sell his drums and gear so he could retire, or to play so many shows he got burnt out to make a bunch of money quickly so he could retire. If I were Neil in that situation, and my only goal was to retire, I'd sell my stuff in a heartbeat. That's way easier and healthier than playing all those shows so quickly. Now obviously Neil decided to play the shows instead, which says something very clear about his dedication to the band, the fans, and about his desire to retire. If he had wanted to retire in 2005, 2008, 2011, or any other time before 2015, he'd have sold his gear and done it. He didn't, and Neil isn't one to do much of anything he doesn't want to do, so I can only conclude he wanted to keep Rush going until 2015. Also, I was at R40, and he sounded just as incredible as ever. Even with his foot problems on that tour, the man had not burnt out yet when I saw him. Honestly, the only things I noticed that weren't practically record perfect were Ged's voice on a couple songs and when Alex missed a note in the DEW solo.

 

And I cannot express enough how little Peart has to do with Ged and Alex's career decisions anymore. He's retired, Rush is over, he no longer has any influence over what those two do with their careers. I guarantee Geddy hasn't been waiting out home browsing the internet waiting to see a public statement from Neil that says he'd love to hear new music from Ged and Al. Neil has no obligation to do anything of the sort. He put in the better part of his life with them. If they ever deserved anything from him, they got it and more. Yeah, it'd be a nice gesture for Neil to come out on the news just to say he's excited to hear what his former bandmates will do next, but don't you think that's a lot of effort to go to just to say something which could have easily been said in private any number of times over the past three years, and probably was? There's no good reason for Neil to go to the trouble of making a public statement that he's interested in the future careers of Alex and Geddy, especially with how much of a recluse the man is. He's retired for goodness sakes. I say let him be. He gave his all. Ged and Al will be back soon. There's nothing to complain about there.

 

Yeah, the end was kind of abrupt and not well-worded. But I've said it before and I'll say it again. If you weren't picking up on those strange signals around the R40 tour, I do feel sorry for you, but they were there. There was a real sense of finality about the whole proceeding, Geddy just didn't want to come out and say it was going to be the end because 1. he wasn't sure it was, and 2. even if he knew it might, he didn't want to face that truth himself.

 

I always got the feeling Neil's abrupt decision was more a result of the constant grind of the recent tours more than anything. It seems like they were on the road more between 2010-2015 than they had been in a long time. I think that took a toll.

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This is a fun thread!

 

Right? I think?

 

Posting drunk has its consequences, or benefits, depending on what kind of drunk you are.

 

1978, you all good?

 

Don't drink and post. You'll get thrown under the bus.

 

Love every Rush songs. Love some Rush songs. Love the hit Rush songs. Who goddamned cares?

 

I'm not drunk just really tired. About to take a nap in my office because I don't trust myself to drive home.

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Not many fans get to follow a band in tact for 40 years with pretty much the original members. (Yeah, I know Rutsey) As a matter of fact I don't know if any band has survived 40 years with all original members. (Yeah I know, Rutsey) So while I get the disappointment, we have been blessed and spoiled to have Rush for so long!
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Not many fans get to follow a band in tact for 40 years with pretty much the original members. (Yeah, I know Rutsey) As a matter of fact I don't know if any band has survived 40 years with all original members. (Yeah I know, Rutsey) So while I get the disappointment, we have been blessed and spoiled to have Rush for so long!

 

U2 is just about there

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My favorite comedian of all time!

 

I can't remember a time he wasn't my favorite comedian. Nobody else has ever come close to touching him. What's it been about 10 years now since he died?

 

Sounds right.

 

He’s been my favorite since ‘82 or ‘83 when I saw that HBO special, Carlin at Carnegie Hall. I was only 10 or 11 then but it was hilarious even to my very young ears. :LOL:

 

i saw my first Carlin special at 11 and that was it.

 

have All his CD'S. books and his stand up special boxset.

 

my hero.

 

Mick

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTNi48f567E&sns=em

 

i hope seque see this.

 

this cheer is right up his street, lol

 

Mick

RIP GEORGE

 

I love George OMG this one is so funny ---

 

“Huge piles of redundant protoplasm lumbering through the malls...”

 

:LOL:

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Not many fans get to follow a band in tact for 40 years with pretty much the original members. (Yeah, I know Rutsey) As a matter of fact I don't know if any band has survived 40 years with all original members. (Yeah I know, Rutsey) So while I get the disappointment, we have been blessed and spoiled to have Rush for so long!

 

U2 is just about there

 

Pretty sure zz top have been around longer than rush.

 

 

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Not many fans get to follow a band in tact for 40 years with pretty much the original members. (Yeah, I know Rutsey) As a matter of fact I don't know if any band has survived 40 years with all original members. (Yeah I know, Rutsey) So while I get the disappointment, we have been blessed and spoiled to have Rush for so long!

 

U2 is just about there

 

Pretty sure zz top have been around longer than rush.

 

true .. those dudes are amazing .. just listened to tejas a few weeks ago

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Love every Rush songs. Love some Rush songs. Love the hit Rush songs. Who goddamned cares?

 

 

Years ago some TRFer said “Compilation albums are for soccer moms” or something similar. For whatever reason, that sentiment caught on, was applauded and continued for pages (and even months). This was a dumb ass line to me because though the TRFers liked the songs on the compilations, the idea of all the tunes together on one release wasn’t cool. Elitist crap.

 

Really, who cares where a good song dwells as long as we get a good song?!

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Love every Rush songs. Love some Rush songs. Love the hit Rush songs. Who goddamned cares?

 

 

Years ago some TRFer said “Compilation albums are for soccer moms” or something similar. For whatever reason, that sentiment caught on, was applauded and continued for pages (and even months). This was a dumb ass line to me because though the TRFers liked the songs on the compilations, the idea of all the tunes together on one release wasn’t cool. Elitist crap.

 

Really, who cares where a good song dwells as long as we get a good song?!

 

That’s Earl’s line.

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Not many fans get to follow a band in tact for 40 years with pretty much the original members. (Yeah, I know Rutsey) As a matter of fact I don't know if any band has survived 40 years with all original members. (Yeah I know, Rutsey) So while I get the disappointment, we have been blessed and spoiled to have Rush for so long!

 

U2 is just about there

 

Pretty sure zz top have been around longer than rush.

 

Aerosmith has just one album with a different guitar player.

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Love every Rush songs. Love some Rush songs. Love the hit Rush songs. Who goddamned cares?

 

 

Years ago some TRFer said “Compilation albums are for soccer moms” or something similar. For whatever reason, that sentiment caught on, was applauded and continued for pages (and even months). This was a dumb ass line to me because though the TRFers liked the songs on the compilations, the idea of all the tunes together on one release wasn’t cool. Elitist crap.

 

Really, who cares where a good song dwells as long as we get a good song?!

 

That’s Earl’s line.

 

Yeah, but it came from someone else. Puppetking used to use it too but someone else started it. Can’t remember who.

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My favorite comedian of all time!

 

I can't remember a time he wasn't my favorite comedian. Nobody else has ever come close to touching him. What's it been about 10 years now since he died?

 

Sounds right.

 

He’s been my favorite since ‘82 or ‘83 when I saw that HBO special, Carlin at Carnegie Hall. I was only 10 or 11 then but it was hilarious even to my very young ears. :LOL:

 

i saw my first Carlin special at 11 and that was it.

 

have All his CD'S. books and his stand up special boxset.

 

my hero.

 

Mick

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTNi48f567E&sns=em

 

i hope seque see this.

 

this cheer is right up his street, lol

 

Mick

RIP GEORGE

 

I love George OMG this one is so funny --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLRQvK2-iqQ

 

he taught me how to really cuss .. I'm sure we all know the 7 words you can't say on TV haha

 

And then there’s my #2 comedian...

 

(In the classic “Live on the Sunset Strip”)

 

 

Carlin and Pryor had gifts well beyond other comedians imho.

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Not many fans get to follow a band in tact for 40 years with pretty much the original members. (Yeah, I know Rutsey) As a matter of fact I don't know if any band has survived 40 years with all original members. (Yeah I know, Rutsey) So while I get the disappointment, we have been blessed and spoiled to have Rush for so long!

 

U2 is just about there

 

Pretty sure zz top have been around longer than rush.

 

Aerosmith has just one album with a different guitar player.

 

My aunt is just 2 balls away from being my uncle.

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Not many fans get to follow a band in tact for 40 years with pretty much the original members. (Yeah, I know Rutsey) As a matter of fact I don't know if any band has survived 40 years with all original members. (Yeah I know, Rutsey) So while I get the disappointment, we have been blessed and spoiled to have Rush for so long!

 

U2 is just about there

 

Pretty sure zz top have been around longer than rush.

 

Aerosmith has just one album with a different guitar player.

 

My aunt is just 2 balls away from being my uncle.

don't be so cisnormative
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Not many fans get to follow a band in tact for 40 years with pretty much the original members. (Yeah, I know Rutsey) As a matter of fact I don't know if any band has survived 40 years with all original members. (Yeah I know, Rutsey) So while I get the disappointment, we have been blessed and spoiled to have Rush for so long!

 

U2 is just about there

 

Pretty sure zz top have been around longer than rush.

 

Aerosmith has just one album with a different guitar player.

 

My aunt is just 2 balls away from being my uncle.

 

Rush didn’t have the same lineup for 40 years either.

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Not many fans get to follow a band in tact for 40 years with pretty much the original members. (Yeah, I know Rutsey) As a matter of fact I don't know if any band has survived 40 years with all original members. (Yeah I know, Rutsey) So while I get the disappointment, we have been blessed and spoiled to have Rush for so long!

 

U2 is just about there

 

Pretty sure zz top have been around longer than rush.

 

Aerosmith has just one album with a different guitar player.

 

My aunt is just 2 balls away from being my uncle.

 

Rush didn’t have the same lineup for 40 years either.

 

Technically, they did. Neil joined July 29, 1974. And that last gig was the first week of August 1, 2015.

So, a couple of days over 41 years together

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