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  • Number of Rush Concerts Attended
    5
  • Last Rush Concert Attended
    Snakes and Arrows 07
  • Favorite Rush Song
    Jacobs Ladder
  • Favorite Rush Album
    Counterparts
  • Best Rush Experience
    Snakes and Arrows concert in 07. Had 5th row seats just to the left of Geddy. Amazing.
  • Other Favorite Bands
    none
  • Musical Instruments You Play
    drums
  1. QUOTE (Jean Simmons @ Dec 1 2010, 06:27 PM)No. It's CRAP. Doesn't the fact they've never played it suggest something? Yes, they know something that I know. Power Windows should have been a four track EP The Big Money Grand Designs Manhattan Project Territories To each his own I guess. 'The Big Money' is probably my most unliked song on the whole album.
  2. They've never played it live, it's powerful, great lyrics, an awesome guitar solo and one of my favorites from that era. Definitely one to bring out of the vault! Honestly, if you haven't given it a spin for awhile, do it now!
  3. QUOTE (chrislangone @ Jul 10 2010, 04:39 PM) So I am Chris Langone and yes I filed a lawsuit. Here's why: 1. I came in from New York to take a group of my friends to see my favorite band. I have seen RUSH on every tour since Moving Pictures in 1981 when I was 13. Oftentimes twice on the leg. I wanted to share the experience with my friends, some of whom had never seen RUSH. When the storm came a few of my friends suggested not going on account of the weather. I was strenuous in stating, "no" the tickets say rain or shine. I have sat through numerous concerts in the rain and was prepared to that night. We walked to the show from my hotel in the pouring rain - we all got drenched but once inside didn't care - we were going to see RUSH! At around 8:30 or 8:45 the rain stopped. The guy came on stage - we thought he was going to introduce the band, but instead stated that due to an incoming storm the show was going not going to proceed. 2. The next day I telephoned Stub Hub, from whom I bought the tix and asked for a refund of the ticket price. I was told no. I was told that no refunds are possible unless the show is totally cancelled -- and it might be rescheduled. As of now there is no rescheduled date. There are rumors it might be re-scheduled in September, but nothing is confirmed. And if so, possibly at a different venue - like in Tinley Park - where the sound sucks. Also, I cannot make a rescheduled show in September, which is the rumored date, as I will be back at Cornell where I have teaching and research responsibilities. So what I don't understand is why I cannot receive my money back. I spent almost $500 on tickets for a show that did not proceed and am being refused my money back based on an alleged policy of Live Nation, the promoter. I filed my lawsuit because I was denied my money back and think that people who request their money back should be able to get it. If people can make a rescheduled show, great -- but those who cannot should get their money back. 3. I would love to go see RUSH in New York or Toronto next week, but don't have the money to buy new tickets because I cannot get a refund of the $480 I already spent. If refunded the money (or even permitted an exchange) I would buy new tix for a show I can go to, but Live Nation does not allow this. 4. I have been advised that Live Nation operates the venue. I have also heard that the show did not proceed because there was shorted wires, etc. on account of the wet stage. One would think that a company that operates a venue for "rain or shine" shows would be able to keep to keep the stage dry - and if they were negligent and had to cancel the show as a result would at least offer refunds. I also believe that Live Nation knew before 8:30 they were going to have to cancel the show, but rather than post a notice on the gate to that effect, let people in to sell them overpriced concessions like $11 and $13 beers. The person who came on stage and said the show was being cancelled is, I believe, associated with Live Nation and he lied as to the reason - he stated it was due to an incoming storm (which was not the case) and not because Live Nation failed to protect the stage - it did not rain a drop that night after they announced cancellation. The show could have gone on - unless of course wires shorted due to Live Nation's inability to adequately protect the stage. And, if so, then Live Nation should honor requests for money back. 5. I am not suing for my air fare, or beers. I am only asking for the money spent on tickets, travel costs to the show, and out of pocket losses. Numerous posters in forums talked about driving hundreds of miles to the show, in the rain, to go see a "rain or shine: event. My lawsuit seeks to get money lost by all RUSH fans that lost out financially due to the rain or shine event. Anyone who does not want to be a part of the class action, has the right to opt out. Only people who, like me, want their money back will be a part of the lawsuit. "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice." 6. I have heard second hand that Ticket Master is honoring refunds (not sure if that is true) but I did not get my ticket through Ticketmaster. I got a "Live Nation" ticket through stub hub and they are saying they cannot refund the ticket price because they follow the promoter's policy. 7. For legal reasons I was required to sue the band, because they are the princpal and Live Nation is the agent. If RUSH directs Live Nation to issue refunds, then I am advised Live Nation will be obligated to do so. All I want is my $480 back (and it is a class action - so others who are similarly situated should get their money back too). 8. I really believe I am doing a good thing for fans like myself screwed by an unscrupulous promoter. I also believe RUSH has integrity and the power to make this right. I don't think the personal attacks on me are warranted and I belive RUSH fans are intellecutal enough to realize, knowing the facts, that what I request is reasonable. To the extent the Chicago Sun Times and other news reports have given an erroneous impression as to what this lawsuit is about, I want to correct the record. 9. I will choose a path that's clear - I will choose free will. I am happy to discuss the merits of what I am doing with people in a rational, intellectual way. I have been called names, and even threatened with violence. As RUSH fans, we are better than that - we are fans of the smartest, most "thinking" band ever - if people really think there are good reasons that people should not get their money back for a show that never occurred then I want to hear them. Otherwise, I would hope fans would step up and demand the band and their promoter do the right thing. The first sentence in #5 confuses me. " I am not suing for my air fare, or beers. I am only asking for the money spent on tickets, travel costs to the show, and out of pocket losses." Isn't airfare considered travel cost to the show?
  4. QUOTE (ByTor2112 @ Jul 10 2010, 06:02 PM)The "goods" cannot be delivered if people's safety are at risk. I see you have some interesting points in your arguement, but I cannot see how your wants and needs qualify a lawsuit. Bottom line is purchasing tickets for any outdoor event, even stating rain or shine, comes with risks the show may not go on as was the case here. And wanting your money back now to see them next week in Toronto makes you sounds entitled and selfish. My 2c. My thoughts exactly. I am not writing this to slam the OP, but just throwing out my 2 cents. I live in Milwaukee and just happened to be checking the forums the night of that show because of the storms that were going through Chicago and Milwaukee. I had a feeling the weather was going to be an issue and thought the show might be cancelled. It was a classic hot summer day with thunder cells developing EVERYWHERE! Tornadoes, hail and lightning are serious acts of nature. I can't imagine what type of lawsuits would be filed if a group of people were struck by lightning or electrocuted by standing in a puddle of water. Rain or shine yes, not lightning or torrential down pours. I understand your frustration but your reasons for filing a CAL are weak at best. Also, if you purchased your tickets through Stubhub, they are just a private agency that sells tickets for private individuals and takes there cut of the sale. My guess would be that if you used Stubhub, you paid more than face value for the tickets? If the show is not rescheduled, you will be paid your refund, but only the face value of the ticket. Demanding a full refund immediately after a canceled show is also taking things a bit far IMHO. A great deal of the ticket holders will want nothing more than to go and see the show, and just want tickets for the rescheduled date. This isn't like tickets to a movie that was cancelled that you can catch on DVD in a couple months, it's a live, original event. I'm sure it will take Rush and their promoters a little time to figure out when that show will be, considering they have to fit it into their existing tour and make sure the venue is open. If I remember correctly, the last show at Red Rocks was a make up show and it took them quite a while to figure out when the show was to be made up. You are free to do what you want about this, but it sure seems like a waste of energy, time and money to me. And to want your money in a week so you can go to another show? Do you know how the legal system works? You may get your refund sometime in 2013 but it won't be next week.
  5. I'm happy to hear that you are a fellow drummer Farcry. I've only been playing about 10 years and it's strictly for my own fun and entertainment. You do not have to be the professor to tell that something was up with those drums that night. Maybe it was the speakers or the sound leaving the amps, which is why Neil didn't notice and demand it fixed! Maybe it was the 90 percent humidity! I remember asking my drum instructor once about tuning drums, and how they should sound. One thing I will never forgot is what he first told me. "If they seem to sound like shit, they probably do!" I don't want people to think that I was bashing the show, but after seeing Rush multiple times you kind of expect perfection. I realize that this is not likely, but if we don't hold them to a higher standard, they may as well be any other horrible live band. I am going to try and hit one more show this tour, and I'm sure things will be much better.
  6. Your review is right on the money. Neils drums did sound horrible. The snare drum in the first set sounded closer to a bongo than a snare drum. It sounded like they tuned it a little better in the second set, but the rest of the drums were definitely out of tune. His solo, although good, was not quite up to par with some of his others. It never really grabbed me and was a bit boring. Geddy really does need to lay off those high notes. Just knock em down an octave so we don't have to cringe when he doesn't get them right. Alex, when his guitar was working, sounded great. He hit all the notes and was my favorite band member tonight. I made a point to watch the crowd in the first set. Yeah I'm gonna but after TSS the wind was robbed from everyones sails. People were so pumped after TSOR and then it was a slow and stead decline of crowd energy. I know they typically won't change setlists midstream, but if they are planning shooting a DVD on this tour they should change out 2 or 3 songs to bring some life to the first set. I love the song Presto but was worried to hear it live. It was actually very good and they managed to turn it into a jam. Faithless has to go. Not only did the song make me squirm in my seat, but the video that went along with it had butterflies and other sappy things going on. Finally, Freewill starts playing and the crowd bounced back and all was well. Second set mentionables: Red Barchetta was as good as I've ever heard it. Camera Eye was great, format was changed a bit to make it not so long, but still awesome. 2112 was incredible LaVilla (one of my all time favs) was ruined by Alex playing air guitar the first 20 seconds, and the song never really bounced back after that. Far Cry rocked as well as Caravan. This was only their third show of the tour and I know things will only get better from here on out, and even with a few trainwrecks I also give it 3 stars.
  7. QUOTE (nappy2112 @ Jun 29 2010, 07:27 PM) How many hours are they behind us on EST ? It is currently 6:38 at the venue, which is 8:38 eastern
  8. Less than an hour until the show, do we have any TRF members going to it that are going to help update the list?
  9. One thing I just noticed is that this supposedly was heard from a rehearsal from June 27. That would mean that the roadies set up all of the stage equipment 2 days before the show, and then the band rehearsed that same day. Typically, they set up the day of the show, not the day before or even 2 days! I guess it's possible that they want to have everything ready to go but, I know they set up their stage gear and have it ready long before the first show. I just think if they were going to rehearse, it would be today or tomorrow before the show, not 2 days before. I could be completely insane for thinking this also
  10. I just don't see this being the setlist. Presto is a great song but kind of a snoozer song and I don't think it will have the 'jam effect' live. I know some people like Faithless but that is probably the best beer break song listed. Stick it out? That's the best vocal song they could pull off of Counterparts? Malnar was imho the best song from Snakes and can't believe they couldn't squeeze that song in, seeing as though it is very short and just blew me away when I heard it live. Too many weird song choices/deletions for me to believe that this is the actual setlist. All that being said, my ticket is staying in my wallet, and isn't going on ebay
  11. Losing It would be amazing, but I don' t think it will ever happen.
  12. Wow! Never played Emotion Detector live. One of my favorite B side songs. I'd love to hear it live!
  13. And I just had to take a listen to the song again and can't believe it isn't on the list!!!
  14. The first that popped into my head isn't on the list either or has it been mentioned, but hyperspace on Natural Science is pretty heavy with an awesome riff.
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