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  1. Nice pictures...I would have liked to hear Jacob's Ladder live myself, since my first Rush show was in '81, just missing its original performances. Regarding the vintage guitars...the ES-355 and the ES-335 appear to me to be his originals. I know the white ES-355 has been re-issued, but you can see the very narrow neck on the guitar in the photo, which would be a clue that it is the original 1976 guitar...they did not choose to copy that particular spec on the reissue. The sunburst ES-335 looks a whole lot like the original '68/'69 to me, and I doubt he'd bother making such an exact replica as a one-off for this tour, especially when only the hard-core Lifeson geeks like myself might notice.
  2. QUOTE (treeduck @ Apr 10 2011, 08:45 PM) Personally I don't like Floyd at all, I find them incredibly boring and bland... I don't really care too much for a lot of Floyd's material. But then there's Wish You Were Here, which is one of my favorite albums by any artist. Tull and Yes are my two faves from these.
  3. Off the top of my head... Two of my favorites are one-track albums: > Jethro Tull: Thick as a Brick > Brian Eno: Thursday Afternoon My favortie double-albums include these (allowing for one or two weaker tracks): > Elton John: Goodbye Yellow Brick Road > Led Zeppelin: Physical Grafitti Some "standard" albums to which I give 5 stars are: > Pink Floyd: Wish You Were Here > Rush: Moving Pictures (the variation of style pushes MP to the top) > AC/DC: Highway to Hell My favorite live album is: > Graham Parker Live in SF 1979 (released recently)
  4. QUOTE (Tommy Sawyer @ Apr 10 2011, 07:04 AM) Thanks a lot- I think I'll go with TFTO Tales From Topographic Oceans is wonderful; you should have great time discovering that for yourself. All four tracks have a lot of interesting things going on, though some of it (The Ancient, in particular) takes a little more patience to appreciate. And then, just think....Relayer is even better!!
  5. Put me in with the Cygnus x-1 camp. I have always considered that as their "heaviest" song overall, Geddy's vocals playing a key role.
  6. QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Mar 22 2011, 07:48 PM) QUOTE (Gompers @ Mar 22 2011, 04:56 PM) But the real question is...is there such a thing as Folk Metal? Or Prog Folk? Or Prog Country? Or Death Metal Folk Country Prog? :explodingheadsmiley: Yes there is such a thing as Prog Folk. The Decemberists did it with "The Hazards Of Love" and "The Crane Wife." Two epic masterpiece. "The King Is Dead" is just sharply crafted folk. I still can't get into it. I got heavily into the Decemberists when I heard Castaways and Cutouts in 2002. My wife and I saw their first NYC show in '03 and I skipped out on hanging out with them after the show cuz I had to get back to the kids in Jersey and it was a work night. I stopped following them for years, but I am greatly enjoying The King is Dead. Agreed, it sounds farther from "prog" than their earlier material, but I find it very satisfying.
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    GUP Tour

    QUOTE (nappy2112 @ Apr 5 2011, 08:41 PM) I've said it before and I'll say it again , that was one pathetic setlist. I remember them opening the encore with Red Lenses and thinking I hope this is a joke. Yeah, I was shocked by the '84 setlist. The only older material they played was a small sampling of the stuff they ALWAYS played, only much less of it. That was the one tour where they really flipped the bird to their old material, and to many fans, whether intentionally or not. I forgot about the red lenses encore....I'm sure I was shocked by that. When they went bypassed 2112 Overture and went directly into Temples, I thought I was listening to Rush on a K-Tel album. As I mentioned earlier, I appreciate GUP now much more than in '84, but that really was a bad setlist.
  8. QUOTE (Mara @ Apr 5 2011, 01:10 PM) I liked him back in the 80's, quite a bit. How's his voice held up? He still sounds very good, though I can hear the age in his voice. I suppose he could probably still pull off his old tunes at least adequately, if not close to spot-on. If you sample his most recent release "Imaginary Television" you'll get the idea of the tone of his voice now. He did a couple 70's tunes the night I saw him, but I am such a new fan to Graham, that I probably had never heard them before. The only song I remember knowing back in the day was, of course, Local Girls.
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    GUP Tour

    QUOTE (ReRushed @ Apr 5 2011, 06:40 PM) I saw them, I believe, the second night of the Radio City Music Hall concerts. It was fantastic! And Marillion got booed...mercifully. I may have been there the same night (I recall I was there 9/22). It was a 5-night stint that previewed the upcoming GUP album. I remember Marillion getting booed....and joining in the booing. Honestly, I didn't know anything about Marillion. I couldn't tell you if they were actually decent or not. I was just extremely impatient to have Rush take the stage.
  10. Hey gang, The latest in my long list of great artists I ignored back in their heyday is....Graham Parker. Just saw him do a solo show in Jersey in February and got to do a quick buy-and-greet at the table afterwards. Excellent singer and songwriter. I should have been going to see him AND Rush way back in the day. Anyone else here keen on Graham? sb
  11. Oh my goodness, it HAS been 30 years!! Yikes!!!! That was the first Rush album I bought on the day of release. Pretty sure the store I went to is long gone.
  12. spitball

    GUP Tour

    It was a tough setlist for me, who really struggled to like GUP when it was released. Omitting Overture was like an arrow in my heart. Looking back, I now think GUP was a very interesting album, worthy of hearing live. I wouldn't mind of they did GUP in its entirety live. Er, they could leave out DEW and I'd let it slide...
  13. QUOTE (GeminiRising79 @ Apr 2 2011, 06:20 PM) I've decided that until Rush produces new music worthy of listening to (lyrics aside), and/or produces setlists worth my time, I will not be supporting them financially. This "doing sh!t their way" has run its course. Game-up or retire to save any remaining integrity you have. My honest opinion- and, no... not trolling. My dissenting-from-the-majority 1.5 cents: Pre-HYF: Most songs I like, a few I don't. Post-GUP - the opposite is true. Ged's voice also changed drastically, long ago, and I greatly prefer his Hemispheres era voice. That's just a natural progression that is nobody's fault. 'Tis what it is. I don't spend much $$ on Rush anymore, but I still come here to hang out once in a while and will always respect Rush even if they continue releasing material I have no interest in. They are forever one of my favorites, based mainly on the olden days. I did see Rush live in '02 and '04 after many years without, and I felt like I was seeing old friends.
  14. QUOTE (KillerInstinct @ Mar 21 2010, 03:47 PM) Zappa newbie here what album should i listen to to get started? someone reccommended Hot Rats to me, but i haven't bothered to listen to it yet Zappa's work is hard to classify, but there are some general eras you can reference, and after years of listening to Frank, I feel the best to recommend to a newbie is the early/mid 70's funky rock era; albums like Overnite Sensation, Apostrophe, Roxy and Elsewhere, and One Size Fits All. I am also very fond of his big band stuff of the years just preceeding that, and I also like most of the more harsh listening served up by the original Mothers lineup of the late 60's (We're Only in it for the Money is a virtual time warp into the unknown world of the LA Freak scene of the late 60's....it is an anthropological sensation). Frank had a lot of good material after the mid 70's, but it got more and more diluted by what I consider to be filler, so I would steer clear of his 80's stuff for a bit until you really get hungry for more. The late 70's had some good stuff. Sheik Yerbouti is a mixed bag of good and bad for me, I feel that Joe's Garage is better. Then there's the huge Lather album which was recorded 75-77 or so....a really amazing mix of bands and even orchestra. It has some filler for sure, but is pretty essential actually. And oh yes, I almost forgot,.....there are several official releases of live material from the 1988 tour (which I attended twice, hallelujah!). It was one of his better bands, and some amazing gems are to be found in those releases.
  15. QUOTE (cheech44 @ Aug 10 2010, 10:45 AM) pretty much everything post-Signals. I gave up after that album, came back due to my boy's (age 6) interest in the old stuff motivated me to take him to a show this tour. listened to everything since and probably now enjoy the newer stuff more than the old (recognizing that the old is nonetheless classic stuff). vapor trails stands out for me - love the tune ceiling unlimited - it's like a heavy u2 song with way better playing & energy. I still can't get into much after Moving Pictures. Only a few songs here and there stand out to me, like Digital Man, Kid Gloves, Time Stand Still, maybe a couple off of Counterparts, not not a whole lot else. My music taste is 10,000% wider than it was in the early 80's when I pretty much only listened to progressive rock. Somehow, even with my wider perspective, later eras of Rush still don't sound very interesting to me overall. Their synth period at least featured some kind of song structure, but the last several albums...wow, I just don't get the appeal.
  16. red lenses This resembled disco too closely for my ears in 1984. Later on, I admitted to myself that I really enjoyed the song. Very freeing! I'm not a big fan pf post-Moving Pictures Rush...but this is a gem.
  17. QUOTE (Cygnus-1001001 @ Jun 30 2010, 12:35 PM) I think its one of the worst Rush songs! Really no redeeming qualities and it looks like you all agree! What a weird choice! Happy with Time Stand Still, Presto and Marathon though So any one like this song?? I agree, it's a low point.
  18. I Think I'm Going Bald would be appropriately funny and a great surprise. It is NOT the klunker of a song people here seem to rate it as, IMHO. I would like anythng from CoS, but this gets my vote....or certain parts of the Necromancer.
  19. I've always loved TCE, but this is one song I prefer abridged a bit live. The Signals tour version is very good...except it was played a little too fast.
  20. QUOTE (Don Quixote @ Apr 26 2010, 08:57 AM) QUOTE (graptemys @ Apr 14 2010, 03:10 PM) I wish they would just release all the songs from the live videos that they edited out (Exit Stage Left, Grace Under Pressure, A Show of Hands). We missed some awesome stuff. For example, Jacob's Ladder, Beneath Between Behind, Red lenses, Kid gloves, The Body Electric, Afterimage, Lock & Key, Time Stand Still, etc. I still feel ripped off. Why not show the whole concert? I'd really like to see the full video from the MP tour - wouldn't have A Passage to Bangkok or Jacob's Ladder on it though, those were done on the Permanent Waves tour which I don't think was filmed. Well, there are films from other tours out there. That Youtube teaser video from Buffalo 1980 is something that I wonder about...Is the whole concert in a can in a vault somewhere? Also, I recall seeing pics of a 1979 show in the Capitol Theater in NJ, with film cameras in view...someone was filming.
  21. QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ Apr 26 2010, 10:23 AM) QUOTE (Show Don't Tell @ Apr 25 2010, 02:39 PM) QUOTE (PuppetKing2112 @ Apr 25 2010, 02:33 PM) They didn't ever play Witch Hunt until 1984. Correct. The setlist for the Moving Pictures tour was: -------------------------------------------------- 2112 (Overture/Temples of Syrinx) Freewill Limelight Hemispheres (Prelude) Beneath, Between and Behind The Camera Eye YYZ Drum Solo YYZ Broon's Bane The Trees Xanadu The Spirit of Radio Red Barchetta Closer To The Heart Tom Sawyer Vital Signs Natural Science Working Man (reggae intro) Hemispheres (Armageddon) By-Tor and the Snow Dog (abbreviated)-> In the End In The Mood 2112 (Grand Finale) Encore: La Villa Strangiato (classical guitar intro) -------------------------------------------------- So, close, but no cigar. Mighty fine setlist, if I do say so myself. I agree. The bookending of the set with the opening and closing parts of 2112 worked beautifully. This tour is kinda ruined for my because of the lousy sound mix. Alex's guitars are buried. I remember thinking ESL sounded horrible (except for side 3, from thr PeW tour). I saw Rush on the ESL tour in Dec '81 and it sounded the same; you had to strain to hear Alex. Not sure if newer releases of ESL were mixed any better....
  22. QUOTE (shaun3701 @ Apr 22 2010, 04:03 PM) I though that song became Natural Science? Oh yeah, maybe it did....I just wanted to throw that up there as a silly discussion idea anyway.
  23. That would be unexpected, eh? As in, I was just watching the PeW Le Studio interview, where they mentioned Sir Gawain, a song idea that they had dropped. PS - Tongue firmly in cheek on this...
  24. QUOTE (Rick4001 @ Apr 13 2010, 10:46 AM) QUOTE (spitball @ Apr 13 2010, 08:10 AM) QUOTE (Rick4001 @ Apr 13 2010, 08:03 AM) QUOTE (spitball @ Apr 13 2010, 06:11 AM) QUOTE (snowdog2112 @ Apr 12 2010, 10:01 PM) QUOTE I think Ged's memory of the specifics could be off. He used the Rick on Tom Sawyer, as this is even recorded on film. What do you mean it's recorded on film, are you talking about the video? Do you seriously believe that the video for Tom Sawyer (and the others from MP) is them actually recording those tracks on film? Absolutely. I know a lip synch when I see one, and the Le Studio videos aren't. Do you seriously believe those are lip synched? Of course the videos, Tom Sawyer and Limelight, are lip synched, but why would he use the Rick in them if he did not record those songs with the Rick? Hmm, I guess we have to agree to disagree here. I don't buy that they are lip synched... ...Those are the actual album recordings being filmed at Le Studio. How anyone thinks they are lip synched is beyond me. I suppose the term 'lip sync' is being used here to express 'not live'. Perhaps the video was taped in part during the recording of those songs, but the songs could not have been recorded in one take. I'm sure the video was spliced together for a seamless finished product and "synced" with the audio. Yes, I think so. You can see the vocals being recorded later (darkness had settled outside, Geddy alone at the mic) and the guitar solo is in a separate studio using the black ES-345, while the main track is on the white ES-355. Everyting about the video says to me that we're seeing the actual recording of the song on film. The one thing is Geddy's interview quote where he makes the point that he used a Fender on that song. But I still trust my eyes and ears on this one more than Ged's memory on that particular point. I'll admit that is such a frivolous point, it's barely worth even an online forum discussion.
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