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I seriously considered walking out during the "I'm holding for General Hux" skit. I'm glad I didn't, but damn, that was just terrible. I'm not happy at all with the current trend of film makers forcing contemporary America slang and vulgarities into their SciFi/Fantasy films. The General Hux scene wasn't too bad, IMO, but they could have worded it differently. It's supposed to be long ago, in a galaxy far, far away, but we get people talking exactly like US. Guardians of The Galaxy comes immediately to mind. To me, it's very irritating to put up with the American vulgarities spewed by beings who have never even been to Earth much less the USA. I like Thor much better when he's talking like THOR, and not like one of the guys down in NYC. The Thor-speak in Ragnarok was the director’s bs idea to have him strongly influenced by modern American language. So, even though Thor’s supposed to be over a thousand years old he’s speaking and joking as he did in Thor 3 after just a few years of hanging out with Jane Foster and Tony Stark?! Dumb. Guardians 2 and Thor Rag were big let downs for me. They certainly were not made by filmmakers who know or respect the characters. Getting back to Last Jedi, that General Hux phone scene was cringeworthy. They might as well have had Domino's deliver a prank call pizza as a distraction. I can picture Mary Poppins Leia flying through space with a pizza box in hand... That would’ve been an improvement! The more I think about it, the more unbalanced LJ seems. We’ve got the Hux prank call and Leia Poppins rubbish in the same movie as the cool Dern sacrifice scene and the well done Yoda cameo. Weird. TLJ is a mess indeed there is a very good film in there. but Rian was to busy doing to much and it got way to convoluted. Mick Man is there really? A decent Star Wars popcorn flick? Maybe. But a very good film? I do not see the frame upon which to build a good movie out of this mess. What made Star Wars good was that it was the archetypical hero’s journey, which is usually always a fun ride, but set against an interesting backdrop of gadgetry, droids and pew pew “lazor” beams. What they have totally abandoned is the hero journey of Rey and gone all in and tried to use cuteness, saccharine emotional ploys and technical wizbangery to make a story...it doesn’t work. At all. One is an accident, two is a trend. My expectations for the third movie are not high.

Not even the worst lyrics on T4E....ever heard Half the World? Or Color of Right...threw up a little as I typed that.

Don’t forget repetitive and derivative of their own work. And sucky.

A period of change no doubt, fresh change and too many great songs to dismiss. and i'm sorry but the live shows got better too. Mick Ged's sinsing improved, as did Neil's ability to keep tempo. They did lose a lot of the improv, though. Yeah, not that they ever did a lot of improv but I imagine all of the sequencers and other tech they use limited a lot of stretching out.

:clap: :clap: :clap: YES! Now THAT would have been amazing.

I disagree. There's been plenty of praise on this thread, for example. But I think it's fair to say that a scene that invokes so much laughter from adults and kids alike was a bad choice. My problem with that scene is this: other than allusions to Leia’s ability with the Force we’ve never seen her actually use it. She very well could be a Super Jedi Master but we would have no way of knowing this. To just have her survive exposure to outer space and fly (not to mention them opening that bay door with no effects at all) like that was, well, laughable. We’ve never seen any Jedi do anything remotely like that and they just throw that on us with Leia?? No. And if she’s that powerful why the hell does Rey need to bother chasing down Luke? If Leia’s that powerful then why did so many things have to happen?

I won't go there Well...I don’t either. That death growl/Cookie Monster shit ruins good music for me. It is the bit of poop on an ice cream cone...ruins the whole thing. I see it more as a special effect, or a deeper part of the music compared to normal "clean" vocals. That's how I hear it anyway. I'm not the biggest fan of the growling vocals but most bands that use it wouldn't sound right using a cleaner or melodic style. More often than not it fits best with the music and mood they're trying to convey. Yeah if you tried to replace death vocals in a death metal song with clean vocals it probably wouldn't work. It would probably sound as bad as tying to put death vocals in a pop song instead of normal vocals. I dislike it partly for the ethic behind death metal/death growl which I find abhorrent and partly because the death growl just sounds ugly and offputting...which I’m sure is part of the goal by the freaks that use it. So I'm a freak too am I? :kisshug: Well yes. Obviously.

I won't go there Well...I don’t either. That death growl/Cookie Monster shit ruins good music for me. It is the bit of poop on an ice cream cone...ruins the whole thing. I see it more as a special effect, or a deeper part of the music compared to normal "clean" vocals. That's how I hear it anyway. I'm not the biggest fan of the growling vocals but most bands that use it wouldn't sound right using a cleaner or melodic style. More often than not it fits best with the music and mood they're trying to convey. Yeah if you tried to replace death vocals in a death metal song with clean vocals it probably wouldn't work. It would probably sound as bad as tying to put death vocals in a pop song instead of normal vocals. I dislike it partly for the ethic behind death metal/death growl which I find abhorrent and partly because the death growl just sounds ugly and offputting...which I’m sure is part of the goal by the freaks that use it.

I won't go there Well...I don’t either. That death growl/Cookie Monster shit ruins good music for me. It is the bit of poop on an ice cream cone...ruins the whole thing.

Vader. Need a Vader focused movie where he’s the killing machine we saw in Rogue One.

Please don't forget how to have fun... Blah blah blah. Take that blather and stuff it in your pipe. I’ll have fun when they stop making insultingly bad and stupid movies. Just because it’s a Star Wars movie doesn’t mean I have to swallow all the horseshit they’re shoveling or turn a blind eye to nonsense when I see it. Fück you and your “please don’t forget to have fun”. Condescending asshat.

Other problems that recently came to mind: Why did those bombers move so f***ing slow, why couldn't they fly as fast as any other ship? How did those bombs "fall" in outer space where there is no gravity? Did the writers just think it would be cool to have WW2 style bombers in outer space without considering how things actually work in space? How did that woman open the bomb doors in the cold, brutal vacuum of space and not get sucked out (or die) like, oh I don't know, Leia Poppins? Why did those canon blasts arc through space WHEN THERE IS NO F'ING GRAVITY IN SPACE???? Why did the writers make such a stupid, stupid movie? Why?

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I haven’t watched this funeral dirge to nowhere since Neagan bashed in Glen’s dome. If...IF...Carl isn’t dead and that isn’t a zombie bite then Gimple & Co. are trolling the FÜCK out of what fans remain of this dumpster fire. It’s saying something when the reviews for Fear The Walking Dead are more positive than The Walking Dead. Because FTWD really and truly sucked swollen, infected donkey balls early on.

My C- score is based solely on bad movie making / script / plot decisions. Not how it stacks up against the other movies. This movie has serious structural problems that I simply can’t get past and the more I consider these problems the more it sucks because smart people had two years to make, at the very least, a decent movie and didn’t.

Ren, as a character, is still a mystery. Han & Leia’s Son turns out to be the evil-est kid in the galaxy? Kills his own dad? If he would come out and say, like Vader, that we just don’t understand the power of the dark side! But he doesn’t. So I don’t get him at all. Mopey millennial prick.

I gave it a C- , won't see it again and it's better than any film with Darth Darth Binks (the evil Sith lord that enabled the rule of Palpatine and is the true, secret identity of Snoke).

The plot to this mess was totally unfucking believable: we're to accept the fact that OTHER bad guy space ships (One Republic or The New Order or Fallout Vader, whatever the hell they're called) couldn't jump in front of the rebels and finish them off? Really? The entire plot was laughably contrived and much of what followed was equally as foolish and boring. The whole casino trip was DUMB, oh and they just happen to run into a super thief/codebreaker in jail...right. None of that had to happen if the ultimate end game they had in mind was the fight scenes on Snoke's ship. None of that wasted time was necessary nor was it very interesting. Why exactly is Kylo Ren evil? Why? His character makes zero sense. Perhaps the thing between he and Luke was a more formative experience but did they elaborate on it? Hell no. It's all vague and up to second guessing. There has to be a Vader stand in so I guess he'll do. Did Han beat him as a child or get drunk and slap Leia around? I suspect we'll never know exactly why he's the bad guy. Rey...apparently she's a Jedi Master now even after telling Luke, all teary eyed, that she's afraid of what's inside of her. Guess 3 quick lessons is all it takes to become a powerful Master. Dumb. But hey, she had to get on that ship and fight Ren by the end of the movie and set up the next film so why not. Yawn. Leia...holy balls! Who needs Luke Skywalker when the Princess can go all Force Mary Poppins and fly through space like that. The worst part of that is that we've NEVER seen any indication that she has that kind of control with the Force. We were always told she had it but she's never displayed it like that before. Plus it was kinda comical and not in the goofy, predictable, groan inducing comical way the rest of the move tried to be. Snoke...just who the hell is this guy? Where did he come from? How did he get to become leader of One Republic? Doesn't matter now I guess. Oh well. There were a few good parts like Laura Dern's sacrifice which was pretty cool, Luke's mind f**k on everyone at the end...though I was hoping for an epic light saber duel between he and Ren. I did not like this movie at all. Bloated, entirely too long, too many characters doing mostly boring, nonsensical and stupid things to fit the plot. It could be that I'm expecting too much from a silly Star Wars movie or it could be that these movies are the same but I'm 47 now rather than 7 or 10 or 13. Probably a mixture of the two.

I don’t care how long a movie is, regardless of genre, as long as the pacing and story is well told. And this movie has neither a well thought out plot and drags pointlessly for large stretches. I will see this movie, like The Force Awakens, only once.

Oh my god this film is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy too long. And, I’m sorry to say, kinda boring. Halfway through i was looking at my watch. Sure it had good moments but they, for me, were too few and too far between. The main plot driver (no pun intended) is beyond absurd. I learned nothing new about the characters, which by the way, there are too too many. Too many people running around, too many threads. Too much. This script needed a knife taken to it. Lots of wheel spinning for no good purpose. So, yeah...didn’t much care for it.

Vote so they at least beat Lamb of God and Mastodon. Probably won’t beat Zep at this pace.

Vote so they at least beat Lamb of God and Mastodon. Probably won’t beat Zep at this pace.

Alright y’all! Get out and vote for Rush!

BRUCE. DICKINSON. /thread