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2 hours ago, Megadeth said:

Damn that was the worst rendition of YYZ I've ever heard Rush do. Geddy was playing in a completely different key on the first verse. I guess they haven't been practising much. That and they're like 90

Yeah that was cringey. 

The puppies were wearing toques reminiscent of Bob & Doug, too.

I read Clockwork Angels and this sprung to mind:

 

“this is not a book to be tossed aside lightly; it should be hurled with great force!”

All Tony wanted was a heavy metal album. Not books, not stories from the bouncer who rides side-saddle, not yodelling vocals. It's not about hugging trees it's about metal guitars crushing your eardrums and everyone ending up with a permanent hissing in their ears as well as a Tony R Permanent Wave hairstyle. That is all.

 

Books are for tourists.

My meaningless vote goes towards all Rush songs being permanently retired from live performance.

 

If they are to make music together, let it be new music, which begins a new era.

 

Let them all make their own music.

Having read all of the Clockwork stuff, I actually liked the second one more than the first. I agree that the lyrics included all over the place in the first book was a bad idea. That said, I have a gold edition with the framed manuscript page, and when I glance up at it on the wall, I don’t say to myself “F that KJA! He ruined Neil’s work!” I consider it a rare artifact touched by the guy who made me want to be a drummer. The Syme artwork is cool. KJA didn't ruin anything, he just didn’t write something that will be the next Herman Melville. Gee, that’s a shame. Get over it. It’s based on recent rock music, not Hamlet. That was Bob and Doug’s movie, Strange Brew. Haters gonna hate though, I guess.

 

How about instead of "haters gonna hate" we could say "to each his own"?

Not to continue my whinging too much, but wtf with the locations of the live tracks? Manchester and London are both cities; "Missouri" is not. How about "St. Louis," geography snobs?

 

Massively disappointed in what could have been, but I'm probably part of the problem because I'm one of those packing suckers mentioned earlier.

 

Right! I'm sure they wouldn't want people to think the Rush show was from Cape Girardeau!

It reminds me of the old saying, "The first rule of Rush Club is you don't talk about Rush". I get that many don't like KA's books or style but obviously given the ties to Rush, Neil's concepts and how we will look back on that I would think many would be interested in seeing what KA does with Clockwork Destiny if it happens. I certainly will. I actually treasure the signed books I have right now. And no one defends and talks about Neil's literary choices as much as me around here being the biggest Bubba's Book Club fan around. It's a shame the bigger picture gets lost by a few KA haters. If you don't like it, don't read it. #endrant

 

It's a shame that you have an issue with those of us who think KJA is a hack and glommed on to Neil's popularity to write a series of substandard books which only serve to diminish the legacy of Peart. #endrant

 

Tribalism has a hard pull and leads people to keep throwing out strawman. I don't care if you don't like KJA, honestly. I just don't know why so many feel the need to attack those who do have an interest. And it's a flat out lie to claim KJA "glommed on Neil's popularity" . Neil worked with and approved and even instigated the entire endeavor. It certainly did not hurt Neil's legacy. My point is that if you don't like the "style", many people loved the concepts included in Clockwork Angels and all the books Neil drew from that inspired the work. Many also felt it was a great companion piece to the album, including me. I could even laugh at the way the verses were worked into the novel, but I understand if others can't.

 

Again, I never defended KJA as a paragon of deep literature. But for those claiming some higher ground in literary standards it's odd to me because any attempt to discuss things like Bubba's affection for postmodern literature from Lynn Coady's The Antagonist to Barth's epic works like The Sot Weed Factor will never get a second glance glance in this forum. In fact, you could rarely get anyone to talk about any selection from Bubba's. I mean let's face it, most of the fans have self-admitted they don't even care about the words. Half of them were upset when they found out what it was saying which is why they have the no talking about lyrics rules. Many people here attacked Neil's lyrics and books (Ghost Rider) as well. I get it. But the fact I posted an update as to a possible third book got more people upset than BU2B. You would not think posting about such things (Neil's books) but there you have it.

 

Everyone can just go back to bitching about the mix on Vaper Trails. God forbid someone mention Candide.

 

Neil's lyrics played a foundational role in creating the adult I am today. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have been such a huge fan of the band if they were only singing about sex and drugs. His lyrics have spoken to me throughout my life, and as weird as it may seem have given me strength and helped me navigate my life.

 

I still think KJA is a hack though :)

Its off air as of this am. :(

 

It seemed to me they were just recycling shows they played on Deep Tracks so it was getting repetitive. I've heard Rivendell enough times now to last the rest of my life.

When I first heard of Dokken in 1982 via the Kerrang album review of Breaking the Chains I initially thought it was a girl led band because I mistakenly thought the lead singer was called Dawn Dokken.

 

Well, you weren't completely wrong about him being a girl. Just look at the lyrics to Alone Again lol.

I really like that one. Lynch is a beast on that. :guitar:

 

I've got nothing against George's playing on it. The lyrics are just wussy pop garbage.

I hardly consider lyrics in music. Lyrics are just like the sprinkles on the cake for me, not even the icing or the cream never mind the cake. I hear lyrics but I don't hear them. It's probably why death metal vocals never bothered me, vocals are just another instrument to my ears, an effect. Lyrics are just a necessary tool. I mean you have to sing something don't you?

 

As for Mr Neil Peart and his lyrics, I prefer to think of him as the man who came up with the themes and concepts for all the albums, the album titles, the song titles, the lyrics were just the nuts and bolts in that whole machine. The themes, concepts, ideas, even the titles are more important to me than the actual lyrics.

 

Lyrics carry a lot of weight with me. Cheese is still cheese no matter how inspiring the music behind it.

 

I mean, take one of the worst songs ever (imo), the horrendous 1982 "I've Never Been To Me". The only way that song would ever be good enough to listen to would be if Warren Zevon or Frank Zappa did a really ironic arrangement/vocal, and they're both dead so....

 

A more recent example: "I Just Died In Your Arms Tonight". That is one of the dumbest, sappiest, most treacly songs ever. I know 10 year olds who could write better. Sure, it has hairy metal behind it, but that cannot conceal the fact that it's a steaming pile of yak poo.

Well yeah some songs are beyond saving no matter what.

 

Yet both became hits. The latter was even deemed worthy of inclusion on the local "classic" rock station's rotation. Go figure.

These days people seem to love crap more than ever, whether it's films, TV, music, books or whatever.

 

Crap, yes! But sometimes people love crap.

It reminds me of the old saying, "The first rule of Rush Club is you don't talk about Rush". I get that many don't like KA's books or style but obviously given the ties to Rush, Neil's concepts and how we will look back on that I would think many would be interested in seeing what KA does with Clockwork Destiny if it happens. I certainly will. I actually treasure the signed books I have right now. And no one defends and talks about Neil's literary choices as much as me around here being the biggest Bubba's Book Club fan around. It's a shame the bigger picture gets lost by a few KA haters. If you don't like it, don't read it. #endrant

 

It's a shame that you have an issue with those of us who think KJA is a hack and glommed on to Neil's popularity to write a series of substandard books which only serve to diminish the legacy of Peart. #endrant

When I first heard of Dokken in 1982 via the Kerrang album review of Breaking the Chains I initially thought it was a girl led band because I mistakenly thought the lead singer was called Dawn Dokken.

 

Well, you weren't completely wrong about him being a girl. Just look at the lyrics to Alone Again lol.

 

Perhaps Gilbert O'Sullivan and Harry Nilsson had a love child and called him Donald ..... :o

 

Naturally!

Dreamline isn't too bad.

It happens that many like Rush because of the concepts portrayed in the lyrics. The morals. The last few weeks the forum has been filled with testimonials and declarations attesting to that fact. No one is forcing you to appreciate these concepts and attempting to belittle others that do, in a Rush Forum, seems a little bizarre.

 

Even if you don’t appreciate the literary skills of Kevin Anderson, the concepts are derived from Neil who in turn arrived at them through what most consider great authors and literature.

 

Do you want to belittle Neil’s song writing skills as well?

 

It seems pretty similar.

 

The measure of a life is a measure of love and respect

So hard to earn, so easily burned

In the fullness of time

A garden to nurture and protect

 

None of this has to do with the opinion of many of us that Kevin Anderson is a hack. I was eager to read Clockwork Angels but I was extremely disappointed in the shoehorned-in lyrics and the overall poor quality of the writing.

 

Neil read many fantastic books and shared his thoughts and recommendations with us. None of KJA's books hold a candle to any of them.

Every song on Snakes aside from Far Cry and MalNar

One hookless bland midtempo dirge after another about how the world sucks and religion is scary

 

But not incorrect

I am curious to hear from other users here what were your first and best memories from Rush concerts you went to. It can be anything at all, as long as it was memorable to you that you still recall it or found it the highlight of the show etc. I am a huge Rush fan and I really enjoy hearing stories from other fans and their experiences.

 

First show: 4/1/83 in Hartford, I was 14. Knew nothing about the band, it was my first rock concert and was tagging along with a couple of my friends. I was a bit of a space nut at the time, so when I heard them play Countdown with the video screen...well, that was it!

 

Most memorable show: 2008 at Red Rocks. How could a show at Red Rocks not be memorable?

 

Best show: 2010 at Mohegan Sun. I was something like 12th row which is the closest I have ever been. My son attended as well, in utero :)

 

Last show: R40, Boston

 

In total I saw 20 shows on 12 tours. I had a ticket to a 2012 show in Bridgeport, but I temporarily lost hearing in my left ear due to a virus, and the doctor said I shouldn't go.

 

Which in retrospect was a real bummer because if I had gone it would have made 21 shows, 12 tours.

Are they stopping the videos every 12 seconds to hear themselves talk or are they back to actually listening to the songs for a minute before they say anything?

They're ok on this one.

 

Ok, sometimes they listen and other times they talk too much before even letting the song settle into its groove. They range between very good and very annoying for me.

 

The video exists to capture their instant commentary. If you don't like the interruptions just watch the video by itself :D

I still think CA would have been much better if Neil had written it himself, or found an author capable of writing for audiences older than 8th grade.

I am very happy with the Neil Peart clip. Interesting I never really thought about the importance of a celerity passing away and then getting ranked.

It was nice to see Rik get acknowledged after Neil but is an numerical ranking really needed for paying respects to the fallen?

 

Dr. John was way down the list but didn't they bring out a cool New Orleans jazz band on the stage for him???

 

I think ranking means nothing when it comes to obituaries.

 

 

"It is what it is......... and whatever."

 

I was thinking the jazz band was for everyone mentioned; kind of how a jazz band sometimes plays at New Orleans funerals as the people travel from the chapel to the cemetery; they are playing the people home. :(

 

Hey Becky!

 

Great call! I love Dr. John and instantly thought about the New Orleans vibe in his music but it makes sense!

 

Reminds me of one of my favorite James Bond movies! "Live And Let Die!" Sadly ironic.

 

Love,

 

Roger Moore RIP

 

"Whose funeral, ah, is it?"

"Yours."

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZPZWZDlkaY

if that blip were any smaller, we would missed it completely - disrespectful

 

Disrespectful how? He meant a lot to us and rock musicians but in the broader world of music he is one star among thousands.

I copy the link using the Image icon and it still doesn't work. Anyway, here's the link:

 

https://flic.kr/p/2ijRYV8

Found this on Youtube, apologies if it was posted earlier. Been a fan for 37 years and Neil still blows me away. Neil's isolated drums on TSOR live:

 

It would be interesting to know what was the last thoughts, words of Neil to his family or closest friends in his last day, but to know that would mean that we were there or that someone there had the audacity to tell it to the outside world, which could be considered disrespectful for Neil's family or Neil wishes....

 

If he was in hospice at the end there's a good chance his last thoughts were known only to himself. My grandfather decided on home hospice and on the day he died he was on a morphine patch for pain and didn't speak a word.

Ryan Murphy shared an update on Keep Rush Radio on SiriusXM for good!

Petition Update

One Little Victory!

SiriusXM has announced that starting tomorrow, January 23, a Rush channel will debut on channel 717. Subscribers of the Select package and All Access package will have this channel available. Thanks all!

Looks like my XM Select package gets 717. Does SiriusXM know when a radio is playing a specific station, like real time listener ratings?

 

I assume they do, and assumed that was the reason they extended the tribute channel (twice) and decided to create a dedicated channel.

 

I discovered there is a Tragically Hip channel so now I don't feel so special...

I've always liked Power Windows. By October 1985 I'd got over my Rush-synth-era phobia, but it's nothing like Hemispheres, it's almost like two different bands. Everything is different, the song structures, the guitars, the drums, the bass, the synths, even the vocals are different even though it's obviously Geddy.

That's getting right to the heart of the matter now isn't it?

 

Right to the beautiful part.

I just received notification today that SiriusXM is adding a Rush channel!

 

SiriusXM has announced that starting tomorrow, January 23, a Rush channel will debut on channel 717. Subscribers of the Select package and All Access package will have this channel available.