I had the same experience for Vancouver.I tried presales but was not happy with the seats so i waited till the pubic onsale and we couldnt get 2 tickets in the first 10 rows on the floor.the last 3 tours to vancouver we got 5 row 4th row and last time 2 nd row ,so we didnt get tickets for this tour.We have a 5 hour drive to get to Vancouver and unless we are close enough for the best experience,it just wasnt worth it to us.We will wait for the DVD.I have seen them 9 times and my son has seen them twice. Those platinum tickets prices that Ticketbastard is selling close to the stage at 3 times the face value is beyond belief!