GeddyRulz

I don't come around much anymore, either. Even less in SOCN. By the way, Necro was one of those "start shit just to amuse themselves" people mentioned in the previous post. Big time.

A bit? I think it's too bad there are folks like you on the Internet, who start shit just to amuse themselves. I think it's too bad there are folks like me on the Internet, who can't resist an argument, get bent out of shape easily, and are thereby complicit in providing your entertainment. I'm much better about avoiding online debates and "letting things go" than I used to be, but sadly this is still often me: http://25.media.tumblr.com/d9ee391f430a0a5c35b404067a210439/tumblr_mlzxfnHs8z1r8t4b8o1_500.png

This is clearly a sign that you're not only too lazy and stupid to read, but also too lazy and stupid to even type the four words indicating such.

I forgot I was dealing with Mr. Remedial Reader. It'll be okay. Just sound-out the bigger words. Or here... here's the Cliff Notes version for you... No, I haven't crushed the ACDC fans... just you. You were beaten in this argument before you began. Xanadood, at least, had a respectful and valid argument.

No, I haven't crushed the ACDC fans... just you. I listed the reasons why I personally don't like ACDC, and your reply was that my post was too long. (I believe you compared it to "a health care bill." And it really wasn't long!) I repeated my talking points, waiting for a valid rebuttal, and you only responded with exaggerations about my snobbishness. ("He's reading Aristotle" and such.) When you failed to land blows there - because I never took the bait, I wasn't offended, and I admitted to a certain degree of snobbishness - you were left cracking on the font I use, of all things! You were beaten in this argument before you began. "Owned" indeed. Xanadood, at least, had a respectful and valid argument…

he's trying to think of a rebuttal to that one...but not even the greek philosophers have spoken so eloquently! Bwahahahahaha!!! That's "eloquent"? Bwahahahahaha!! And: "the greatest rock and roll ever created"?? Bwhahahahaha!!! You guys are just RIDICULOUS!!! sorry faulkner, you've been OWNED Really? "Owned"??? :laughing guy: Keep this crap coming. You're cracking the shit out of me!!

he's trying to think of a rebuttal to that one...but not even the greek philosophers have spoken so eloquently! Bwahahahahaha!!! That's "eloquent"? Bwahahahahaha!! And: "the greatest rock and roll ever created"?? Bwhahahahaha!!! You guys are just RIDICULOUS!!!

1. I haven’t liked a Rush album “START TO FINISH” since Moving Pictures, but I’m still a fan. There aren’t ANY albums by Rainbow or Van Halen or Iron Maiden that I like “START TO FINISH,” but I’m a fan of them, too. You’re an ACDC fan; you know it, and I know it. 2. I’ve heard more ACDC songs from the Bon Era than three. TNT, The Jack, Long Way to the Top, Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap, Big Balls, Highway to Hell… that’s six right there, or TWICE as many as you thought I “maybe” knew. 3. I’m sure everyone thanks you for the service you’ve provided: “calling out” a snob. Congratulations. If that was your only goal here, I could’ve saved you the trouble: I freely admit I’m a (musical) snob. I didn’t need to be “outed.” god damn he's even using a fancy font to show us how smart he is! Uh... noooooo... I type these longer posts of mine in a Word document first, for easier editing and such, before pasting them to TRF. And it came out like that.

1. I haven’t liked a Rush album “START TO FINISH” since Moving Pictures, but I’m still a fan. There aren’t ANY albums by Rainbow or Van Halen or Iron Maiden that I like “START TO FINISH,” but I’m a fan of them, too. You’re an ACDC fan; you know it, and I know it. 2. I’ve heard more ACDC songs from the Bon Era than three. TNT, The Jack, Long Way to the Top, Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap, Big Balls, Highway to Hell… that’s six right there, or TWICE as many as you thought I “maybe” knew. 3. I’m sure everyone thanks you for the service you’ve provided: “calling out” a snob. Congratulations. If that was your only goal here, I could’ve saved you the trouble: I freely admit I’m a (musical) snob. I didn’t need to be “outed.”

No thank you; I'll have that discussion with people a little more like-minded. Why don't you go join the fools listening to the mindless party dribble, since you enjoy it so much.

the dude was real, and anyone who writes him off as a "party" lyricist clearly hasn't heard anything besides radio hits... bon seemed to have a brain about him Yeah, that business about who-has-the-biggest-balls, that was poetic and deep! Real intellectual stuff! But I digress. I don't know their catalog as well as you. (Thank God! I've heard enough!) Quote me some of his "brainier" lyrics and prove me wrong.

Yes, kinda boring after awhile. Because once you've heard one song by them, you've heard their whole catalog.

No, good hard rock lyrics were out there. For starters, maybe you've heard of this band called "Rush." "Metallica" is the name of another. Even most of the Hair Bands, while not stellar in the Lyric Department, had better lyrics than ACDC, whose approach to lyric writing seemed to be "which words rhyme with each other?" more than anything involving IDEAS. Lyrics are as much as HALF of a song! If the lyrics aren't a consideration, why were they put there? Why isn't ACDC an instrumental rock band?? But if you want to totally ignore rock lyrics, fine. The music of ACDC, as I said before, comes down to this: every song sounds alike! And none of the music is particularly complex. If the music remained the same, yes, I probably would still hate them... but by improving the lyrics, they'd have gained my respect for at least improving one-half of the MUSIC AND LYRICS (the lyrics part). As they are, both the music AND the lyrics suck, in my opinion. I hear nothing to like. ACDC is just a simple hard rock band - the kind of "party band" which gives its audience an excuse to go to a concert and drink a six pack. (Again, even fans of the band have agreed with this opinion I have of them.) If that's all you want from a musical act, more power to you. I want more.

* sorry, double post *

I'm no fan of either band, but I can at least TOLERATE some Def Leppard. Musically, I think every ACDC song sounds the same, and even fans of ACDC have agreed with me. And lyrically? My God, Spinal Tap's "Sex Farm" was deeper.

When Fleetwood Mac comes on the radio, I can't change the station fast enough.

This is like having to choose between "Cannonball Run 4" on one channel and "Porkys 5" on another. :boo hiss: Where are the GOOD choices??

I remember back in 1999 or 2000, when a young trio of Prog wannabes from North Carolina calling themselves Paradigm Blue released a CD called “Liquid Eyes” and created a stir on Tri-Net . Rudy embraced them, and the three band members even began posting on the board. Musically and lyrically, they were quite good. They acknowledged their debt to Rush and Dream Theater, their two biggest and most obvious influences. The lyricist (slash-bassist-slash-vocalist) had a large vocabulary, a’la Peart, and liked to flaunt it in his lyrics. Vocally, though, he sounded like a nasally Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull) – the sole weakness in a band which otherwise had great potential. The CD contained a six-part suite called “The Rain Cycle,” while another song referenced the movie The Matrix with its title “There is No Spoon,” but the “single” from the CD was a six-minute track called “Atlantis.” Anyone heard it? Anyone know or remember Paradigm Blue? I’m trying to download an MP3 of “Atlantis” and have had mixed results. A couple websites have it, but they either require a membership or my computer just doesn’t like them (“WARNING: Potentially harmful to your computer!”). I’d prefer not to use any such websites. Can anyone point me to an MP3 of the song, or send me an MP3 via e-mail? Please inbox me. I've found a place (or places) online where I can LISTEN to it, but I want an MP3 copy for my iTunes/iPod.

I've been digging further into Abba's history, and while I can't yet speak with certainty about the "psychologically tortured" Agnetha, it turns out that Frida was very depressed, off and on, her whole life. She had reason to be. Not only did she have the standard Scandinavian bent towards "darkness," the stress of being a professional touring musician, and of being under constant public scrutiny, but it turns out she was born with a real problem... Frida's biological father was a Nazi officer in occupied Norway, who got Frida's mother Synni pregnant and then left after the war, before Frida was born. The (naturally) strong feelings against Nazis took a bad turn after the war, in the form of labeling women in Synni's position (women who'd mated with Nazi soldiers) "German whores" and "mental defectives." And of people in Frida's position (the progeny of a Nazi), it was said that 80% were probably retarded. Children like Frida were vilified, abused, confined to mental institutions, beaten, raped, and treated like sub-humans well into the 1960s. Fortunately, Frida and her mother escaped most of that kind of treatment, by moving to Sweden - a place where people didn't know them - while Frida was still a baby. Frida's mother died shortly after the move, and Frida was raised by her grandmother. Part of the stigma of being the child of a Nazi stuck with Frida all her life. "I didn't have many friends. I thought everything about me was wrong - that there was nothing about me that was worth loving." http://www.dailymail...#ixzz2UKra9rFc More recent (post-Abba) stuff for Frida to be depressed about: Her daughter, age 30, died following a car accident in 1998, and her husband died in 1999 after just 7 years of marriage. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6dujqI7Jw1r3ghzho1_1280.jpg

Agreed. Funny thing is, most Swedes take marriage and divorce very lightly. For one thing, more than any other country Sweden has a lot of cases where couples stay together for many years (even lifetimes) but NEVER MARRY; it's just not important to them. As for divorce, Benny once said in an interview that it's no big deal in Sweden - you just re-marry, your Ex remarries, you both have kids with new partners, and there's no animosity between Exes. Apparently Agnetha doesn't feel the way most Swedes do; you can tell the divorce hit her hard.

Her new album debuted in the UK charts at #6! Mind you, what I've heard of it is f***ing horrible. But, in interviews she seems much happier. She seems to be in a much better place nowadays. Yeah, I saw a couple interviews of her promoting this new album and she does seem "happier." Maybe she finally put some demons behind her. I've heard that Frida was the only one of the four who actually LIKED touring, and the only one who'd be open to a "reunion tour." Since the other three have said 'no way in hell,' it's probably unlikely. It may be a good thing they haven't reunited; we're left with a pure memory of them at the top of their game, not a group of seniors cranking out oldies for money.

Was Agnetha really "bitchy"? I thought she was easily upset by comments about her APPEARANCE above her talent. For example, the Australian reporter who told her she had "the best tush in popular music." I also think Agnetha had the DARKEST personality of the four. Scandinavians can be pretty dark in general, and their suicide rate is high. (Perhaps it's the weather that contributes to their depression.) Agnetha can often be seen in videos and photographs looking like she's psychologically tortured, under duress, and generally PAINED. After the band broke up in 1982, Agnetha essentially became a recluse, only leaving her apartment for short solitary walks. This was not a HAPPY person; it's a wonder she didn't commit suicide.

Abba were bloody brilliant. Haters gonna hate, but it's because they don't understand: there's more to "good music" than amazing chops and super-complicated ("Proggy") arrangements. It takes quite a bit of artistry to craft perfect, super catchy, hook-laden three-minute pop songs. That's not the same kind of artistry as Rush, but it's still real artistry. Every Abba hit was catchy as hell; each had some kind of "hook" to it which made you want to listen again. (And it only occurred to me this weekend: if there were approximately two great hits on each of their nine albums [they had a total of 18 hits in the states], couldn't there be MORE great songs on those nine albums? As a fan of their hits, I really should consider digging deeper into their catalog!) Benny and Bjorn's arrangements. The combined voices of Agnetha and Frida, which created an amazing and beautiful "third voice." The production of Michael Tretow, which gave the gals' voices even MORE of an original sound, something inexplicably appealing. Abba were something really wonderful and unique! Is it bubblegummy and poppy? Yes, but it's also something more. And I'm not gay, I swear! I'm not an Abba fan because I want to dress like Frida; I'm an Abba fan because I genuinely like the music and because I want to SHTUP Frida! :drool: I don't get all the love for Agnetha; I'm a Frida lover! http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RtMJ-VAHcnQ/TDP9LnHhYDI/AAAAAAAAA0M/_LxJjWdXWXo/s1600/FRIDA22.JPG

I don't have that one, but I have all of the GBV albums from which the songs on it were compiled (see my rave about them in my first post in this thread). In truth, I don't even have this compilation album. I only snagged the song "Glad Girls" for my iPod, and only because it was memorably used in an episode of "How I Met Your Mother."

It's a book that's normally assigned reading in either high school or college or both, but I wasn't assigned it in high school, and I didn't go to college. I finally read it on my own, at 40 years-old. Yeah... good book. The Redford/Farrow film was okay, too, although I think Bruce Dern was miscast. Haven't yet seen the new DiCaprio version, but I will eventually.