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Cold Fire! Deep lyrics, amazing beginning, so much emotion in that song. Lots of great choices on this album however.

The Enemy Within. Brings tears to my eyes it's so good. Between the Wheels is a close second. Every song on this album is amazing except for Kid Gloves.

Love every song on this album except New World Man, which isn't bad either. I voted for Analog kid for the amazing musicianship, and how incredible it sounded live (just yesterday).

For lyrics, Freewill. Overall though, I choose Natural Science. Just an unbelievable song. Anyone see this live?

Yeah, I think he more implied how it had a lot of build up to no climax and could have been mixed better. I think it would be great to see them try it again live with a tiny re-write to capture what they wanted the song to be. Countdown is perfect as is. Amazing song. Loved it live back on the Signals tour. If you give an opinion on post 1982 Rush, it seems guaranteed to be the opposite of mine. Geddy is 100% right on Countdown...the song has potential but doesn't go anywhere. I heard Countdown as part of a Rush laser show at a planetarium and it was SO f***ing awesome! As is. :)

I agree with Geddy. Awkward song. Take out this and High Water and HYF is one of their top albums.

Yes, just get rid of TFE and leave CP alone, I like it the way it is. Agreed with Both, CP should be left alone, but Speed of Love should be burned at the Stake! Wow—that's the harsh take. I agree with you though. The best part of that song is the sound of the bell on Neil's ride cymbal during the chorus 2 user(s) are reading this topic 1 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users SpeedOfLove :hi: I did not like SoL for a number of years, but I grew to like it. It totally fits the theme of the album. So the lyrics can be clunky. I got over it. I like it. Wow, you can get over the lyrics to Speed of Love but not those of Half the World. Huuwhaa? You're confuzzed. I think half the world is a really stong song, music and lyrics. People who complain about the repeating lyrics, well, it's a devise only used by Rush twice in like 160+ songs. A ridiculous gripe IMO. Quite well used by Neil both times. I don't understand how because he only used the infinitely repeating lyric technique twice in 160+ songs that some logic switch is supposed to switch on in my head and suddenly the song becomes bearable. Even one time was one too many. You don't understand because your logic switch rusted in the off position from never being turned on. :syrinx: I just thought it was a funny argument. He's only done it twice, so it's ok! :P I think it's funny that earlier in this thread, someone said they liked the lyrics from Test For Echo, and you thought that quoting lyrics from Test For Echo would prove something to them I don't remember if it worked exactly in that sequence of events (though God knows you'll probably research the history), but definitely one of the most effective way to show the ridiculousness of SOME of the lyrics on that song and that album is to quote them. Actually, I'm not going to research the history, at least not at the moment But I do remember that the person was referring to the lyrics on the album in general, and that you thought that quoting the entire lyrics from THREE of the songs would prove something. I did find it amusing! ;) I actually didn't quote the entire lyrics from any song, only the notably poor quality ones. ;) Later on I quoted the lyrics from Half the World in their entirety, but only to show how many damn times they say the words Half the World. And while I think T4E is in general a fairly weak album without standout tracks, it's not an outright BAD album, just not particularly good by Rush standards, and I never find myself playing it or wanting to play it. The years of curiosity where I went, "well maybe if I just give it ONE more shot it will finally click" have passed. GM is basically right. By quoting the lyrics on T4E you made me think, well, if this is the worst on the album it proves my point that CP's lyrics are worse. CP's lyrics are pretty goshdarn dire They are definitely part of why that album is low on my list. Good music can often overcome bad lyrics, but on Counterparts most of the lyrics are just so bad that the adequate but not brilliant music isn't strong enough to overcome them. I genuinely do understand the argument against Counterparts lyrics. The first three songs have lyrics that are more stripped down than in most of their previous works, although that does seem to fit with the stripped down sound. The lyrics in those songs aren't as deep necessarily as they usually go, but somehow it works. They come off us as kick ass hard rock songs with GREAT sound and production. Then they start tackling more serious issues of love, relationships, sexuality, race, etc. These are subjects that Rush never touched before, at least rarely so overtly. I can see how the lyrics can be construed as somewhat heavy handed or contrived - sometimes they are... but somehow they pull it off and the songs generally speak to me. I'm glad not every Rush album goes in that direction, but Counterparts really worked - it's a special and very solid Rush album. When you consider that the only 4 Rush albums that I would consider mediocre or bad are Presto, RTB, T4E & VT, Counterparts was a shining beacon right in the middle of their weakest period. It was an enormous comeback album, and showed they still had some of the ©old fire in them after two weaker albums. I was amazed when they pulled off yet another comeback with S&A and then turned it up a notch or three with CA. "Come back album"? I guess they came back to poor sales and poor music after RtB bucked they trend. And S&A isn't as good as any of those, except maybe Presto. S&A wasn't perfect, but it was their best album in 14 years by a very long shot. The first three songs and the instrumentals alone are worth the price of admission, even though the album is inconsistent. And why on earth do you keep harping on sales as any kind of baromerter of quality of music? RTB got lucky - it had some songs really hit big on mainstream rock radio. I don't remember what else was going on with music at the time, but the timing was right and Rush got a bump in album sales. It sure as hell wasn't due to the quality of the music on that album as a whole because some of those songs are REALLY weak *cough* face up heresy neurotica the big wheel you bet your life *cough*. Counterparts was a couple of years later and by then grunge ruled the land. CP was actually Rush's response to grunge, but for whatever reason it didn't sell quite as many copies. Most people with functioning ears would agree that CP is the FAR superior album. It's not even close. CP is the best album between 1989-2007. Presto wasn't bad. RTB also wasn't bad. I liked Ghost of a Chance. And Bravado. And hated the rap! I'm saying CP and CA are a toss up.

I hated the original Vapor Trails, BUT...the song "One Little Victory" is really awesome, and gets me pumped. Not sure what happened after that. Rush's worst album IMO, and the only one I outright just do not like as a whole