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1 hour ago, JohnRogers said:

True but one thing you’re pretty blind about is easy parking for businesses and customers. I love walking. I loathe hard to get street parking, especially in neighborhoods with shitty double parking douchebags. I’ll choose a worse business with easy parking in a lot over a better business with lousy street side parking. 
 

You can have it all, parking lots, sidewalks, safe crosswalks, businesses close enough together for walking. Still, it’s a big diverse country, one size doesn’t fit all. 

Negatory. People factor it in, because it's the first think car-centric people ask about whenever we're improving areas. The fact is, unless you're literally a big box store, business holds flat or improves when you swap excess parking for multimodal capability.

"Difficult" parking tends to result in transportation mode shifts. If you know that a pub is hard to park at, you'll often get your group to take one car rather than 4. We literally do this on SLC meetups.

More and more places are treading the blessed path, i.e. abolishing parking minimums; letting the business decide how much parking it thinks is appropriate, not some arbitrary table from the 1960's. For every time it works poorly, it works terrifically in several other areas.

Some roads and some parking are of course necessary. But too much is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Hell, I'm hosting a meeting with a traffic engineer today asking him if the huge dual-left-turn lane intersection he's recommending is a self-fulfilling prophecy that will only warrant itself once actually installed and inviting more traffic than otherwise.

57 minutes ago, GabesCavesOfIce said:

 

Much too young tog. 

Save the drive by posting for SOCN. 
 

If what you believe can be backed up by words, use your words. 

4 minutes ago, GabesCavesOfIce said:

 

As someone with unexpected knee and back issues, and that's after 50+ years of zero problems in those areas, including walking a mile or two a day, vitamins daily... I can think of quite of a few senior citizens who cannot deal with a walkable neighborhood in any way shape or form.

 

I would have loved it two or three years ago for sure. That's why I say wait 40 or 50 years to the Millennials and gen Z's,  perception will change when the nerves tell you something different than what they are telling you now

Dude you’re talking to someone with a neuropathy himself. 
 

Car dependent areas are unwalkable. Walkable areas are still plenty driveable. 
 

Having three transportation choices is better than one. 

15 minutes ago, GabesCavesOfIce said:

 

The younger generation  strongly believes that we can save the planet with better Urban Design.

 

While that may be true, just wait 40-50 years, then tell me how much you want  walkable neighborhoods versus driving to where you need to go.

A lot of elderly people are afraid of driving or completely unable to. Creating areas that are utterly car dependent is a huge middle finger to the elderly, disabled, children, and any adult under 250 lbs. 

There are no societal negatives to trading car-only places for places where the car is simply one of 3+ options. 

11 minutes ago, goose said:

Free money.  Those were good days.

 

Out of curiosity,  what would your payment be at 7% instead of 3%?

Escrow is about $300 of my $1800 mortgage. It would be $2700 at 7%. Actually less of a rise than I thought, 50% counting a fixed escrow on a rate more than doubled. Hard to mental math fantasy mortgages! Amortization ftw 

It’s a good feeling knowing that I could rent this house out, with recurring expenses, and roughly break even while paying it down. I love seeing the interest/principal payment split get a few bucks heavier on the principal side every month. Paid down $20k of this $360k borrowed so far. 
 

Had I bought earlier… man… that could’ve been really nice.

This state is too great 

The only thing better would be being in Summit County, cleaner air and more mild summers

wild expensive now, and I’m married to a 3% mortgage 

Good to see that Utah is not sympathetic to squatters 

Conservatives overdosing on copium

a true epidemic 

11 hours ago, Mr. Not said:

FJB

You stuck at a farm feed store or welfare office today?

2 hours ago, goose said:

After I retired I got to stay home, take care of the kid and cook.  It was awesome.  

My cousin is his long term girlfriend’s stay at home dude. No kids, he just cleans the house walks the dog and cooks for her. On one teachers salary lol. Living in her parents basement apartment. Since late 2018 he hasn’t worked by choice. They could’ve bought a damned home if he didn’t “retire” at 38

3 hours ago, Mr. Not said:

how that's still a prevalent line of feminist thinking beats me. kinda retarded how they always find cooking in particular to be offensive. yeah, gee, the horror... 

 

on the other hand i'm offended that culinary arts always get discarded like this, cooking is as difficult and interesting as you want it to be. It's definitely a few steps above Sarah's friend's office job.

It shouldn’t be hard for people. Cooking is something to be proud of when you’re good at it. It is not a gender specific activity. Any functioning adult should be able to cook. Nobody should constantly expect their partner to always cook for them. 

20 hours ago, goose said:

All this talk of driving makes me happy I live in a walking-friendly part of town. Suburban sprawl and the strip mall/big box shopping model are a blight

Goddamn do you and I need to have a beer 

We're watching That 70's Show for the first time. Last night, an episode that takes place in January 1977 had Hyde (played by federal-pound-me-in-the-ass-prison Danny Masterson) wearing an AC/DC t-shirt. Wouldn't it have been a little early for that band to have much reputation in the United States? In the middle of Wisconsin?

42 minutes ago, JohnRogers said:

Hear-hear, you now qualify for TRF Solar Federalist single payer healthcare.

it should be noted that if you like your current plan, you can keep your plan

6 minutes ago, JohnRogers said:

So, you don’t actually know? Assumptions are being made? 

I used the word "likely" for a reason. Far from a shot in the dark, but yes, I wasn't physically there so I can't definitely give you the 100% guarantee. This pattern repeats itself throughout the US, which is why you can make the claim that it's [very] likely certain things. 

Join me next time for more lawyerball practice

45 minutes ago, JohnRogers said:

What was the zoning sin that caused this? 

Likely minimum lot sizes, huge minimum setbacks, parking minimums, minimum percentage landscaped areas, and possibly all of the above. 

Kill the headlights, then put it in neutral

Highways are not expected to pull a direct profit

Expecting transit to pull a direct profit is a mental illness

If you love roads, don't go bitching about road taxes. Any given road you're driving on isn't taxing you hard enough to use it to pay for itself. You're getting subsidized every step of the way.

There's no such thing as "free parking", there's just parking with the cost baked into the price of what you're there for. And a steep cost it is!

If anyone loves free parking everywhere they go, I 100% don't want to hear them bitch about the reasonable concept of public transit not charging at the point of consumption.

12 minutes ago, JohnRogers said:

They can comprehend it just fine. 

In case it wasn't obvious, the above was an example of horrendous zoning and design practices. It's as if someone hated the concept of walking with the utmost passion, and was trying to maximize arbitrary miles driven. Hopefully each restaurant has a valet while they're at it.

If I assembled a team of random mentally challenged individuals and gave them total freedom to design an area without regulation, I'm confident they'd come up with something better.