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RIP Marvin Hagler, 66


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A giant in probably the last golden era of boxing, and a Motor City legend.

 

(Edited for stupid error.)

 

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This is hard to believe! 66 is nothing these days and he looked in great shape in recent interviews, almost like he used to look back in the 80's.

 

Hagler is my favourite fighter as well.

 

RIP Marvin

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A giant in probably the last golden era of boxing, and a Motor City legend.

 

:rose:

He's actually from Brockton, Massachusetts, and lived and trained there.

Shit, my bad, I was thinking of Hearns. :facepalm: to me.

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A giant in probably the last golden era of boxing, and a Motor City legend.

 

:rose:

He's actually from Brockton, Massachusetts, and lived and trained there.

Shit, my bad, I was thinking of Hearns. :facepalm: to me.

Ah it's ok.

 

He lived in New Hampshire in recent years. He lived in Italy for a while in the 90's.

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Hagler v Hearns, the best 3 rounds of boxing ever, which Hagler himself declared was "a war". Hearns had cut him above the eyes, and referee Richard Steele called time and had Hagler checked by the ring doctor, who quickly allowed him to continue. Hagler surely figured at that point "it's him or me", and knocked Hearns out.

 

Another 3 rounder, his brutalization of Alan Minter, which brought him the undisputed middleweight belt. Didn't get to celebrate right afterwards, as British spectators started pelting him with beer bottles after the fight ws stopped, and he was escorted from the ring under a protective shield of Bobbies.

 

Truly, he was Marvelous. Rest well, Champ.

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Gosh, I just read this on BBC site. He was one of the true GREATS of boxing. Very sad news indeed.

RIP Marvin.

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Totally true story:

 

When I was in junior high, I had a friend from Brockton. He lived pretty close to Hagler's house. We were walking back to his house from somewhere and Hagler's wife was in the driveway unloading groceries. She asked us to give her a hand. We did so, and as we were walking towards her my friend whispered that she was Marvin Hagler's wife. As we carried in her groceries, our heads were probably spinning around like Regan McNeil's. Mrs. Hagler laughed and said, "Sorry guys, he's not here."

 

He was a great champion. Shame on the judges for not respecting his belt when he fought Leonard in 1987(?). RIP to a warrior.

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I've been sorry, to hear, see, and read this. He was a really good boxer. He will be, and is going to be missed. My condolences, to his family, and friends. R.I.P., Marvin.
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Totally true story:

 

When I was in junior high, I had a friend from Brockton. He lived pretty close to Hagler's house. We were walking back to his house from somewhere and Hagler's wife was in the driveway unloading groceries. She asked us to give her a hand. We did so, and as we were walking towards her my friend whispered that she was Marvin Hagler's wife. As we carried in her groceries, our heads were probably spinning around like Regan McNeil's. Mrs. Hagler laughed and said, "Sorry guys, he's not here."

 

He was a great champion. Shame on the judges for not respecting his belt when he fought Leonard in 1987(?). RIP to a warrior.

 

Yes, it was early 1987. I was in a Business Law class at the community college, and one of the students was listening to is on a little portable radio and giving the class updates. We were in southern Maryland, and Sugar Ray lived in Price George's county, just north of us. I remember seeing Hagler at the post fight interview, and he was not happy. He felt he had won, and the Sugar Ray had essentially show boated his way to the win.

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Totally true story:

 

When I was in junior high, I had a friend from Brockton. He lived pretty close to Hagler's house. We were walking back to his house from somewhere and Hagler's wife was in the driveway unloading groceries. She asked us to give her a hand. We did so, and as we were walking towards her my friend whispered that she was Marvin Hagler's wife. As we carried in her groceries, our heads were probably spinning around like Regan McNeil's. Mrs. Hagler laughed and said, "Sorry guys, he's not here."

 

He was a great champion. Shame on the judges for not respecting his belt when he fought Leonard in 1987(?). RIP to a warrior.

 

Yes, it was early 1987. I was in a Business Law class at the community college, and one of the students was listening to is on a little portable radio and giving the class updates. We were in southern Maryland, and Sugar Ray lived in Price George's county, just north of us. I remember seeing Hagler at the post fight interview, and he was not happy. He felt he had won, and the Sugar Ray had essentially show boated his way to the win.

 

IMO, the judges treated that fight like it was for an open belt. Hagler was the champ. Throwing a few flourishes in the last 15 seconds of each round, and spending the rest of the time running, should not be the path to dethroning a champ, again IMO.

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According to Thomas Hearns he had the covid-19 vaccine and died from complications.

 

https://www.instagra.../p/CMX_evblIgK/

f**k me....

 

I worshiped this guy as a kid. I remember watching Haggler\Hearns with my pops. Never saw anything like that before.

 

This sucks...........

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Totally true story:

 

When I was in junior high, I had a friend from Brockton. He lived pretty close to Hagler's house. We were walking back to his house from somewhere and Hagler's wife was in the driveway unloading groceries. She asked us to give her a hand. We did so, and as we were walking towards her my friend whispered that she was Marvin Hagler's wife. As we carried in her groceries, our heads were probably spinning around like Regan McNeil's. Mrs. Hagler laughed and said, "Sorry guys, he's not here."

 

He was a great champion. Shame on the judges for not respecting his belt when he fought Leonard in 1987(?). RIP to a warrior.

I watched that fight too and while it was close, I thought Haggler won and I feel like to take the belt you gotta beat the champion and Leonard didn't beat him.
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Something I just heard on the Teddy Atlas podcast about Hagler during the Hearns fight.

 

After the second round Hagler's cut continued to bleed and seep into his eye. The ringside doctor was called in by referee Richard Steele and he asked Hagler, "Can you see Hearns?" and Hagler replied, "Well I ain't missing him am I?"

 

:lol:

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Been a while since I have been around but made time to pass along a few words about the great Hagler.

 

I remember his first fight for the title against Vito - man what a good fight that was. I thought Hagler one and was robbed. Not the last time that he would be involved in a fabulous fight or be robbed.

 

Others have talked about his great fight against the Hitman. What a fight! But over looked in Haglar's career is the fight he had between the Hearns fight and the Leonard fight. That would be his fight against John "The Beast" Mugabi. If you don't remember it I would suggest that you go on YouTube and watch it. It was a war! Mugabi had 26 wins and no losses going into the fight. One draw. All of his wins were by KO, 10 in the first round. I think the length of his average fight was like 2 rounds. He could punch!! Haglar eventually KO'ed him in round 11 and Mugabi was never really the same fighter. Mugabi hit Hagler with bombs all through the fight and could never back Hagler up. Its an overlooked classic. To give credit, Mugabi never backed down either.

 

Now the Leonard fight. I watched it when it was first broadcast on ABC a few weeks after the actual fight. I was in college at the time and I tried to score the fight. I will admit that I was a Hagler fan and I could not (and still can't) stand Leonard. I scored it for Hagler 6 round to 5 with 1 even. But I thought it was a razor close fight.

 

I did not watch it again until around 2012 when I watched it on YouTub. Again, I thought it was a razor close fight but I scored in for Hagler 7 round to 5.

 

The in 2018 I watched it again on late night TV. In the first round I thought "The crowed is going nuts with every punch Leonard lands, but the Hagler lands he get virtually no reaction from the crowed. I wonder how much this impacts my scoring of the fight." So I turned the sound off totally and just watched the fight. I scored it for Hagler 9 rounds to 3. The only rounds I gave Leonard were rounds 1, 4 and 12. Not only that, but I thought that a lot of the rounds I had previously thought were very close and could have gone possibly for Leonard were, although very hard fought, rounds that Hagler won clean. They were hard fought but I went from scoring them for Hagler but saying "I can sort of see how you could score them Leonard" to scoring them for Hagler - no doubt about it.

 

In early 2020 I watched it again on Youtube and again turned to sound off. I scored it for Hagler 8 rounds to 4. The only rounds I could give Leonard were rounds 1, 4, 9 and 12. Since then I have watched it several time with the volume on and with it off. If it's on, I can see how you can score it 7 - 5 Hagler. With the sound off Hagler usually wins 8-4 or 8-3-1. Once in a while its Hagler 9-3. Never can I score it for Leonard.

 

No doubt in my mind, the judges were influenced by the crowed who were pulling for an upset (likely because of the $ they had on the fight).

 

Hagler won this fight in my mind and its not really arguable.

 

RIP champ.

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